Time Travel: Real or Fake?

[ZethaPonderer]

What do Muslims think of such a concept to travel back in time?

Last time I checked (no pun intended), time moves forward. Not backwards. If it's possible to move back in time, imagine the number of time paradoxes that would ensue. Imagine just how much devastation it would cause when Non-Muslims would use such a means to travel back not only in the time period of Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم), but also in the time period of Jesus/Isa (عليه السلام), Ibrahim/Abraham (عليه السلام), and any of the previous prophet's timelines to simply kill them all given their nature of disbelief, discrediting the Religion of The One and Only God which would cause a radical change in the present and future timelines.

Personally I'm just glad and grateful to Allah that this time travel is just a theory. Theories are subject to change over time and can't necessarily prove something to be true at face value as long as there's scrutiny.

[notme]

What is time? 

[hasanhh]

6 minutes ago, notme said:

What is time? 

A measurement.

[ZethaPonderer]

Ok so from what I get in this second video I posted, it is technically possible to time travel into the future, but not into the past as currently speaking. The video discusses Einstein's Theory of Relativity and Time Dilation for the possibility to either slow down time, or speed it up which affects the future.

37 minutes ago, notme said:

What is time? 

Idk. I just look at a clock or a watch and think that's what time is all about. The clock or watch always moves forward. I've yet to see a clock or a watch that moves backwards. What do our 12 Aimmahs think of what time is and see if they even discuss the possibility of time travel?

[ZethaPonderer]

Here's another poignant, but very empathetic video about the horrific ramifications of time traveling into the past.

 

Anyway, my vote is that Time Traveling into the Future in a sense where you slow down or speed up time is real due to Einstein's Theory of Relativity and Time Dilation.

But, Time Traveling into the Past is simply impossible given such time paradoxes like the Grandfather's Paradox and the Bootstrap Paradox.

Now why did I make this topic in an Off-Topic discussion. Because a part of me wishes I could undo my sins, and shortcomings (be they intentional or not) by going back in time and preventing myself from committing acts of sins (both intentional and unintentional) and overcoming my faults/shortcomings given that I'm fallible and all like any other Human Being.

But there's also another part of me that says how will I grow as a person by doing something like that and just accept my fate in Hell. I am not worthy deserving Heaven, but I also don't want to go to Hell deep down due to my own sins and shortcomings (intentional or not). But, if I must go to Hell, then so be it if it will please the God of Abraham. I'll still worship Him in Hell regardless.

[notme]

13 hours ago, hasanhh said:

A measurement.

 

13 hours ago, ZethaPonderer said:

I just look at a clock or a watch and think that's what time is all about.

 

Is time a thing, or only a concept that we used to explain change? 

Backwards time travel would be reversal of changes, inversion of causes and effects. I like to think about it a lot, but I don't believe it's realistically possible. Time is not a path that can be traveled along, but a concept created by humans to quantify change. 

I'd love to find myself proven wrong. That would be exciting. 

[hasanhh]

Concept  --which is separate from 'progression.'

[iCenozoic]

Time travel is absolutely real. 

All you have to do is spin around backwards in circles at the speed of light and space time will bend around you to the point that you will enter a wormhole through time.

[notme]

1 minute ago, iCenozoic said:

at the speed of light

No.

Does light have mass? 

[ZethaPonderer]

5 hours ago, iCenozoic said:

Time travel is absolutely real. 

All you have to do is spin around backwards in circles at the speed of light and space time will bend around you to the point that you will enter a wormhole through time.

IDK if you're joking. But I found that funny. Soo, Joke Post incoming. No disrespect.

So basically, you're basing your analogy on one of the worst video games ever made Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing (cuz of the funny bugs and glitches).

The trucks move faster in reverse at max speed of 12.3 Undecillion MPH (far beyond the speed of light). Is this what you mean to achieve Time Traveling to the Past? .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8X7Vj6JXPk

Edited July 22, 2020 by ZethaPonderer
Adding furthermore in underlined

[THREE1THREE]

 No not  true, because I remember watching the people of the cave movie, one the sleepers had a wife name Helen, when he woke up after 300 years and came to his house, a women opened the door and he thought that was his wife Helen because she looked exactly like her, the girl freaked out,  then he finds out these are is great grand kids and he showed them a secret place in their house (which was his house) that they did not know about and he showed a picture of his wife that he has hidden and he asks the girl “doesn’t this women look like you ?” She replied “yes” he then says “this is my wife Helen”.  

So these people are most likely their ancestors or relatives of their ancestors. 

[THREE1THREE]

On 7/21/2020 at 1:00 AM, notme said:

 

 

Is time a thing, or only a concept that we used to explain change? 

Backwards time travel would be reversal of changes, inversion of causes and effects. I like to think about it a lot, but I don't believe it's realistically possible. Time is not a path that can be traveled along, but a concept created by humans to quantify change. 

I'd love to find myself proven wrong. That would be exciting. 

Ahh God created time when space was created.

[notme]

1 minute ago, THREE1THREE said:

Ahh God created time when space was created.

But are time and space different things? Or is time just a way of describing events in space. If a thing exists in space but not in time, it doesn't exist, just like if a thing exists in length and in width but has no thickness it doesn't exist, but space isn't a thing, it's a concept to describe relative position and motion.

[313_Waiter]

5 minutes ago, THREE1THREE said:

Ahh God created time when space was created.

 

On 7/21/2020 at 1:00 AM, notme said:

Is time a thing, or only a concept that we used to explain change? 

If time is non-existent, what would it mean when we say God is outside time? Is it that He is not subject to change?

[THREE1THREE]

1 minute ago, notme said:

But are time and space different things? Or is time just a way of describing events in space. If a thing exists in space but not in time, it doesn't exist, just like if a thing exists in length and in width but has no thickness it doesn't exist, but space isn't a thing, it's a concept to describe relative position and motion.

Space is made up of time and black matter and God knows what else ( i can remember atm). Space is a housing for planets and whatever else that’s in it. 

[notme]

1 minute ago, Ejaz said:

If time is non-existent, what would it mean when we say God is outside time? Is it that He is not subject to change?

Well, yes. I hadn't thought about it before now. 

 

[THREE1THREE]

1 minute ago, Ejaz said:

 

If time is non-existent, what would it mean when we say God is outside time? Is it that He is not subject to change?

Not necessarily subject to change because, narrations mention Abraham looked like a 30yr old when he was so old.

but it show that time Independent of Him thus it make Time a God since it uncreated. And if God is within time then He can into existence at a certain point of time...

 

[THREE1THREE]

@Ejaz to elaborate on my comment. Space is made of black Mattar time and some other thing I can’t remember. 

Now for arguments sake let’s say time is non-exsistent. When we say God is outside of time we are saying God is not confined within anything that is created because it limited Him. If God was within time,  it limits His omnipotentence and Time would be independent of God thus Time would be seen as God and God would have be no longer eternal since He had a beginning(i.e exsisted at certain point of time) and it also nullifies God being God. 

So It is necessary to believe God is outside of time.