Did they really go to the moon?

[AkhiraisReal]

 

Personally I am indifferent. However it's interesting to me to know why they would lie about it.

Edited May 22, 2020 by AkhiraisReal

[AkhiraisReal]

it's old video yes. Just thought some people might find it interesting.

[The Green Knight]

Hey diddle diddle,
The Cat and the Fiddle,
The Cow jump'd over the Moon,
The little dog laugh'd to see such Craft,
And the Fork ran away with the Spoon

[hasanhh]

1 hour ago, The Green Knight said:

Hey diddle diddle,
The Cat and the Fiddle,
The Cow jump'd over the Moon,
The little dog laugh'd to see such Craft,
And the Fork ran away with the Spoon

Another S.C lntellectual Advancement.

[guest 2025]

Could someone go and check if the flag is really there? I'd do it myself but I'm allergic to cheese...

[The Green Knight]

 

[3wliya_maryam]

10 hours ago, AkhiraisReal said:

 

Personally I am indifferent. However it's interesting to me to know why they would lie about it.

Heard about this long time ago. It might be some conspiracy but who knows 

[skylight2]

Of-course no one went to the moon! How absurd! How can you go to the moon?1 You know how far it is? And look how small it is - barely the size of a plate full of baklawa! How can a fully grown man even walk on such a small disk? Its like saying the earth is round or that the sun doesn't go to the sleep at night! Plain absurd! 

[The Green Knight]

Not only have the been to the moon they also have the mysterious X37B mini shuttle and space marines. I knew it. Apollo 20 footages were real and there are aliens on the moon with whom we are secretly at war. Because Don Trump is a big mouth he has told the world about the break away civilization and star wars happening while we don't know it. It is where the 10 trillion dollars from pentagon went last decade.

I do believe. Hellelujah~

[The Green Knight]

LOOK

You people are being held back. 'Merica has gone places no humans have gone before.

[notme]

They actually filmed and took pictures on Mars, but used filters to make it look like the moon. 

I've personally talked with people who worked on the Apollo missions. The science and engineering are valid at least. If they faked it, it wasn't because they were incapable of actually doing it. 

[The Green Knight]

Americans are true servants of God and loyal helpers of God's chosen people the Israelis, that is why God let them journey to the Moon and gave them dominion over the Earth. While the communist enemies of God, the Chinese or other so-called space faring nations have remained (and will always remain) incapable of replicating the feat, which is a manned mission to the Moon.~

When on the moon, an angel appeared and gifted moon rocks from heaven to the astronaut guests. Here is proof:

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/32581790/ns/technology_and_science-space/t/moon-rock-museum-just-petrified-wood

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AMSTERDAM — It's not green cheese, but it might as well be.

The Dutch national museum said Thursday that one of its prized possessions, a rock supposedly brought back from the moon by U.S. astronauts, is just a piece of petrified wood.

Rijksmuseum spokeswoman Xandra van Gelder, who oversaw the investigation that proved the piece was a fake, said the museum will keep it anyway as a curiosity.

"It's a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered," she said. "We can laugh about it."

The museum acquired the rock after the death of former Prime Minister Willem Drees in 1988. Drees received it as a private gift on Oct. 9, 1969, from then-U.S. ambassador J. William Middendorf during a visit by the three Apollo 11 astronauts, part of their "Giant Leap" goodwill tour after the first moon landing.

Middendorf, who lives in Rhode Island, told Dutch broadcaster NOS news that he had gotten it from the U.S. State Department, but couldn't recall the exact details.

"I do remember that (Drees) was very interested in the little piece of stone," the NOS quoted Middendorf as saying. "But that it's not real, I don't know anything about that."

He could not immediately be reached for comment Thursday.

The U.S. Embassy in the Hague said it was investigating the matter.

The museum had vetted the moon rock with a phone call to NASA, Van Gelder said.

She said the space agency told the museum then that it was possible the Netherlands had received a rock: NASA gave moon rocks to more than 100 countries in the early 1970s, but those were from later missions.

Ancient rock art from around the world"Apparently no one thought to doubt it, since it came from the prime minister's collection," Van Gelder said.

The rock is not usually on display; the museum is primarily known for its paintings and other works of fine art by masters such as Rembrandt.

A jagged fist-size stone with reddish tints, it was mounted and placed above a plaque that said, "With the compliments of the Ambassador of the United States of America ... to commemorate the visit to The Netherlands of the Apollo-11 astronauts." The plaque does not specify that the rock came from the moon's surface.

It was given at the opening of an exhibition on space exploration.

It was on show in 2006, and a space expert informed the museum it was unlikely NASA would have given away any moon rocks three months after Apollo returned to Earth.

Researchers from Amsterdam's Free University said they could see at a glance the rock was probably not from the moon. They followed the initial appraisal up with extensive testing.

"It's a nondescript, pretty-much-worthless stone," Geologist Frank Beunk concluded in an article published by the museum.

He said the rock, which the museum at one point insured for more than half a million dollars, was worth no more than 50 euros ($70).

Van Gelder said one important unanswered question is why Drees was given the stone. He was 83 years old in 1969 and had been out of office for 11 years. On the other hand, he was the country's elder statesman, the prime minister who helped the Netherlands rebuild after World War II.

Middendorf was treasurer of the Republican National Committee from 1965 until 1969, when President Richard Nixon dispatched him to the Netherlands.

© 2013 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

The petrified wood is from Eden and it was a gift meant for other Christians too. We are such sad people. Conspiracy theorists.

[notme]

On 5/22/2020 at 10:29 AM, The Green Knight said:

A jagged fist-size stone with reddish tints

See? Red! What did I tell you? The so-called moon landings were obviously actually Mars. 

[AmirioTheMuzzy]

Peak sarcasm on this thread. I love it!

[hasanhh]

8 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

Could someone go and check if the flag is really there? I'd do it myself but I'm allergic to cheese...

A few years ago there was a news report about the flag.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/ApolloFlags-Condition.html

[hasanhh]

3 hours ago, The Green Knight said:

While the communist enemies of God,

yeah, pinko, liberal Democrats, Feminists, Evilgelicals

[notme]

45 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

yeah, pinko

Hey! Leave me out of this! 

[hasanhh]

l have my idiot-screen on, and the news said a poll found that 45% of Amerikans believe in "ghosts and demons".

Well first, this is Memorial Day Weekend and not Hallow'een.

Secondly, if 45% believe in spooks, then there is nothing surprising about people believing in fake Moon shots, pinkoism, gov't is created gooder than baby jZeus.

[The Green Knight]

1 hour ago, hasanhh said:

l have my idiot-screen on, and the news said a poll found that 45% of Amerikans believe in "ghosts and demons".

Oh LOL that's so funny bro. Those Luddites.

[hasanhh]

2 minutes ago, The Green Knight said:

Oh LOL that's so funny bro. Those Luddites.

How are these imbeciles "Luddites" ?

[The Green Knight]

4 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

How are these imbeciles "Luddites" ?

Because science has proven that there are no ghosts yet they do not believe.

[hasanhh]

Just now, The Green Knight said:

Because science has proven that there are no ghosts yet they do not believe.

Science  and a percieved threat from technology are two very different things.

[The Green Knight]

1 minute ago, hasanhh said:

Science  and a percieved threat from technology are two very different things.

That is an interesting point. But technology is the produce of science. Is it not? Science gave us 5G for instance, and says its good for us while Luddites may oppose the technology.

[hasanhh]

2 hours ago, The Green Knight said:

But technology is the produce of science. Is it not?

How much "science"?

Example: The first wheel by observation but not measurement. And what science existed to have the necessary axle?

Edited May 23, 2020 by hasanhh
spelin'

[hasanhh]

2 hours ago, The Green Knight said:

That is an interesting point. But technology is the produce of science. Is it not? Applied Science gave us 5G for instance, and says its good for us while Luddites may oppose the technology.

Corrected.

[AkhiraisReal]

9 hours ago, notme said:

They actually filmed and took pictures on Mars, but used filters to make it look like the moon. 

I've personally talked with people who worked on the Apollo missions. The science and engineering are valid at least. If they faked it, it wasn't because they were incapable of actually doing it. 

interesting.

I am not actually denying moon landing. Just want to know whether the astronauts above really went to the moon the date they claimed to do so.

[notme]

1 hour ago, AkhiraisReal said:

interesting.

I am not actually denying moon landing. Just want to know whether the astronauts above really went to the moon the date they claimed to do so.

I don't know first-hand. I'm not old enough to have actually been there. But I have had actual face to face conversations with scientists who worked on the Apollo missions, and I've read a lot of books. I believe that they did. They had the capability at that time.

If it turns out to have been fake, that won't change my life either. 

More mystifying is how the ancestors of Polynesian people navigated the Pacific Ocean in tiny boats using only legends and the stars. I haven't seen a good explanation for that and modern anthropologists haven't been able to replicate their travels. 

[The Green Knight]

Dog ate my homework.

And...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nasa-tapes/moon-landing-tapes-got-erased-nasa-admits-idUSTRE56F5MK20090716

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The Apollo 11 missing tapes were those that were recorded from Apollo 11's slow-scan television (SSTV) telecast in its raw format on telemetry data tape at the time of the first Moon landing in 1969 and subsequently lost. The data tapes were used to record all transmitted data (video as well as telemetry) for backup.

To broadcast the SSTV transmission on standard television, NASA ground receiving stations performed real-time scan conversion to the NTSC television format. The moonwalk's converted video signal was broadcast live around the world on July 21, 1969 (2:56 UTC). At the time, the NTSC broadcast was recorded on many videotapes and kinescope films. Many of these low-quality recordings remain intact. As the real-time broadcast worked and was widely recorded, preservation of the backup video was not deemed a priority in the years immediately following the mission.^[1] In the early 1980s, NASA's Landsat program was facing a severe data tape shortage and it is likely the tapes were erased and reused at this time.^[2]

A team of retired NASA employees and contractors tried to find the tapes in the early 2000s but was unable to do so. The search was sparked when several still photographs appeared in the late 1990s that showed the visually superior raw SSTV transmission on ground-station monitors. The research team conducted a multi-year investigation in the hopes of finding the most pristine and detailed video images of the moonwalk. If copies of the original SSTV format tapes were to be found, more modern digital technology could make a higher-quality conversion, yielding better images than those originally seen. The researchers concluded that the tapes containing the raw unprocessed Apollo 11 SSTV signal were erased and reused by NASA in the early 1980s, following standard procedure at the time.^[3][1][4]

Although the researchers never found the telemetry tapes, they did discover the best visual quality NTSC videotapes as well as Super 8 movie film taken of a video monitor in Australia, showing the SSTV transmission before it was converted. These visual elements were processed in 2009, as part of a NASA-approved restoration project of the first moonwalk. At a 2009 news conference in Washington, D.C., the research team released its findings regarding the tapes' disappearance. They also partially released newly enhanced footage obtained during the search. Lowry Digital completed the full moonwalk restoration project in late 2009.

Dog ate the whole classrooms homework. All the raw scientific data, flight telemetry, raw unedited video footage, everything gone.

Thankfully we do have some TV recordings of the event!~ So just watch those and dont ask questions plx.

[The Green Knight]

LOL Did you think I'm one of those conspiracy nuts bro @hasanhh. LOL I got you with that post there didn't I? Of course I was just kidding lol. You thought I would believe in fake youtube videos. Hahaha~

[hasanhh]

On 5/23/2020 at 4:01 AM, The Green Knight said:

LOL Did you think I'm one of those conspiracy nuts bro @hasanhh. LOL I got you with that post there didn't I? Of course I was just kidding lol. You thought I would believe in fake youtube videos. Hahaha~

Even l find myself sometimes accepting dumb stuff.

[The Green Knight]

On 5/23/2020 at 4:20 AM, hasanhh said:

Even l find myself sometimes accepting dumb stuff.

IKR there is this image someone sent to me and it is so obviously photoshopped. But I almost fell for it.

[hasanhh]

^^^^^ @The Green Knight  Pluto and what?

[AkhiraisReal]

On 5/22/2020 at 9:09 PM, notme said:

I don't know first-hand. I'm not old enough to have actually been there. But I have had actual face to face conversations with scientists who worked on the Apollo missions, and I've read a lot of books. I believe that they did. They had the capability at that time.

If it turns out to have been fake, that won't change my life either. 

More mystifying is how the ancestors of Polynesian people navigated the Pacific Ocean in tiny boats using only legends and the stars. I haven't seen a good explanation for that and modern anthropologists haven't been able to replicate their travels. 

There some scientist that claim we have actually visited other galaxies and planets that are out of this galaxy which are inhabited by other beings. Not sure how much truth there is in that.

[notme]

On 5/23/2020 at 10:50 AM, AkhiraisReal said:

There some scientist that claim we have actually visited other galaxies and planets that are out of this galaxy which are inhabited by other beings. Not sure how much truth there is in that.

I do not think that is true. I don't think we have the technology right now for long-term crewed missions outside Earth's magnetosphere, including to the Moon or Mars. Short term radiation exposure is a manageable risk. 

[user5000]

When it comes to the moon landings, I simply reference the answer from quora below 

 

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Unfortunately for conspiracy theorists, there are three unshakable types of proof that NASA did go to the moon:

1. The surface of the moon is currently being 3D mapped by satellites, and the surface mapping data exactly matches the photos the astronauts took.

See the surface contours in this photo, the hills and craters? The 3D data being gathered by LRO satellites exactly matches these contours.

For example -

Shown below on the left is a 3D computer reconstruction from 3D data stereo images taken by the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) SELENE terrain camera and 3D projected to the same vantage point as the Apollo mission surface photo. The background terrain in the 3D model is an exact match with the Apollo 15 photograph shown below on the right.

This can be done for all of the thousands of photos that the astronauts took from hundreds of different locations as they walked and drove around the landing sites.

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2. The dirt flying off of the Lunar Rover wheels flies in a pattern that can only be done on the moon.

Suppose you shoot an artillery shell on earth. It will follow a path dictated by air resistance and Earth gravity, which can be precisely calculated. The shape of the path (trajectory) will be sort of lopsided, because of the air resistance slowing the projectile down.

But if you shoot the artillery shell on the moon, it will follow a differently shaped trajectory due to the lack of air resistance and lower (1/6th of earth) gravity, which can also be precisely calculated. The trajectory shape will be a perfect parabola because of the lack of air resistance. And the projectile will fly way farther than it would on earth due to the lower gravity.

In films of the lunar landings, the lunar soil flies off of the buggy wheels in a trajectory that can only happen in a vacuum and at 1/6 G gravity.

Any physicist in any country can make a plot of the moon dust and mathematically prove that the rover is driving on the moon.

This calculation has been done many times already.

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3. We have thousands of lunar rocks that have been lent out to scientists all over the world.

NASA has lent out thousands of moon rock and soil samples to the world’s scientific community.

There is virtually no doubt among the scientific community that the Apollo lunar samples are genuine moon rocks and not lunar meteorites.

These three things PROVE without any question that the USA did land men on the moon.