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Salam Alaikum,

We keep on hearing the word "Conspiracy", and most of us look down at anybody who blows the whistle. So as Muslim Shia of Ahl Bayt - in sh Allah - let us get the facts right, using the knowledge and information we were given in Islamic texts.

What is a conspiracy:

A conspiracy is a secret plan and process made by one party or being, which is against others. In the Qur'an we have the word conspiracy closely linked to the 2 words:

LINKClick to see for yourself!ك ي د 

LINKم ك ر

 

We have the enemies of Allah planning and plotting and scheming non-stop, but the bottom line is that Allah's plot and schemes are better.

 

Instead of going into discussing all the many times conspiracies are mentioned in the Qur'an, I'd like to make a different point here: 

 

Most people think that the aim of Hezbul Shaytan is to destroy the world. No, I don't think that is the aim. The aim is to make people 

 

1 - disobey God and do what shaytan says, which is doing wrong things that are bad for others and ourselves

2 - Prove that he - the shaytan iblis - is better than us 38:76, 17:62-66

3 - join Iblis in hell because of our decision to be his allies over the allies of God 

 

We are ordered to fight Iblis and his allies: 4:76

 

So, the aim of the conspiracy is the means and not the end. It is not to cause worldly destruction and pollution. It is to have as many souls as possible selling themselves to Iblis and forget about Allah's commandments and His remembrance. The decisions taken by humans is what decides our next life and not the physical manifestations in themselves (although we get accounted for the consequences, but the intention is what counts the most for receiving His divine mercy). The main people (in the 'media') who try to convince you that there is no conspiracy are the same who try to convince us that there is no shaytan. Yet they themselves worship him. Why do they do that? Why do they cover up the truth? Because Shaytan is a deceiver and a liar.

There are some people who have spoken out about this system, like this man.

 

(You might say that this above conspiracy is fake, but the idea of people worshipping satan and obeying his sick and evil ways, is a fact according to Islam)

Anyway, according to Islamic hadiths, we have two main conspiracies happening, that are linked and like two wings of Satanic grip on mankind and jinn-kind.

 

One is the movement of the AntiChrist (Messih el Dajjal), and the second is the movement of the AntiMahdi (Sufiani). Most Shia here know about those characters who will emerge prior to Jesus and Mahdi. Just like there are forces paving the way (conspiring) and preparing for the Mahdi and Jesus to arrive, we have the forces of evil working and plotting towards the emergence of their Imams. Also, the true Mahdi/Jesus movements are currently fighting and struggling and resisting the other. This fight is happening primarily on three levels:

 

1- Spiritual 

2- Mental

3- Physical

 

We can discuss each separately if we want, but I'd like to share one bible verse that talks about the spiritual one, that is likely to be most important. That is why we must keep up our zikr (remembrance), siam (fasting), sala (connection/prayer), and dua (supplications) from our entire being, especially the heart.

 

Ephesians 6:12, NIV: "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."

 

Jesus is the Spirit of God, so he will win this fight against his nemesis on a spiritual level foremost, according to my own personal prediction. The Mahdi will fight in his own way against his own demons.

 

Both forces of evil use the Bible and Qur'an as their reason and hypocritical targets. They will use verses in their holy books to make great crimes, and also symbolically block people's path (sabeel) to Allah. People looking at them and their mainstream interpretations will get repulsed by religion all-together. People have been tricked to reject religion, while the world leaders monopolize and use religion to serve Satan. 

In the Qur'an it is written that hypocrites are in the lowest levels of hell. That means that if you want to serve Satan the most, you need to pretend that you are really good, while you are actually bad ( hence AntiChrist will pretend to be Christ, and same for AntiMahdi pretending to be the Mahdi ) That is why the main conspiracy-fact is that Shaytan descendants and followers use righteous religion to deceive people. (This would include fake conspiracy theorists, who are also called 'Shills', or 'Fronts' - as the famous quote says - “The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.” )

We also know from both Jesus sources as well as Mohammed sources, that the more time passes, the more those conspiracies will become strong and implemented. The result will be moral demise and the rule of anti-Allah laws. We see this happening on all levels, including Gay marriage, killing, lies, stealing, deception happening as predicted by the Prophets. By the way, not just Jesus and Mohammed (pbut) did that! No, many Prophets and saints from all over the world predicted exactly what conspiracies will happen, and are happening.

Anyway, before I bore any of you, maybe you can share your thoughts on how we can follow Allah's commandments of fighting corruption and conspiracies of Satan, until there is no more fitna left.

Thanks,

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5 hours ago, 313 Seeker said:

We have the enemies of Allah planning and plotting and scheming non-stop, but the bottom line is that Allah's plot and schemes are better.

Instead of going into discussing all the many times conspiracies are mentioned in the Qur'an, I'd like to make a different point here: 

Most people think that the aim of Hezbul Shaytan is to destroy the world. No, I don't think that is the aim. The aim is to make people 

1 - disobey God and do what shaytan says, which is doing wrong things that are bad for others and ourselves

2 - Prove that he - the shaytan iblis - is better than us 38:76, 17:62-66

3 - join Iblis in hell because of our decision to be his allies over the allies of God 

We are ordered to fight Iblis and his allies: 4:76

So, the aim of the conspiracy is the means and not the end. It is not to cause worldly destruction and pollution. It is to have as many souls as possible selling themselves to Iblis and forget about Allah's commandments and His remembrance. The decisions taken by humans is what decides our next life and not the physical manifestations in themselves (although we get accounted for the consequences, but the intention is what counts the most for receiving His divine mercy). The main people (in the 'media') who try to convince you that there is no conspiracy are the same who try to convince us that there is no shaytan. Yet they themselves worship him. Why do they do that? Why do they cover up the truth? Because Shaytan is a deceiver and a liar.

@313 Seeker

It is also possible to countenance the possibility that, at some point in history, human worship of Satan precipitated his takeover of the entire planet and even his usurpation of the Creator, so that, having helped Satan turn Earth into a “prison-planet,” human beings lost their innate capacity (fitrah) to obey or communicate with the Creator, while Satan has, in effect, become more powerful than the Creator, at least on this planet, and can now thwart the will of the Creator to some extent, given that human beings, having long built the Satanic prison against themselves, have long lost their humanity, even on the genetic and spiritual levels, owing to bad spiritual and physical influences such as chemicals and electromagnetic fields. Today, even if people had the willpower to obey the Creator, they would not have the capacity to do so, because their entire beings are already broken and contaminated from birth. They are dead from the moment of conception.

For example, people inherit evil spiritual and biological heritage from their parents who have also been subject to the negative influences of a demonised (possessed) planet and its Satanic societies. Even if people want to worship and pray properly, they either do not have access to the right materials or do not have the time to obey the Creator in the fullest sense, down to the smallest but very vital details, which are very important not just in Islam, but also in all inspired religions, e.g., intention, intonation, location, ritual purity, etc. In the Hereafter, people will get judged and punished accordingly for their failure to observe even the minutest points. Yet our enmeshment in the globalised economy means that we are cut off from the natural, divinely approved materials and methods with which to obey the will of the Creator.

All our foods, drinks, medicines, books, fabrics, cloths, currencies, scripts, machines, devices, etc. are mortally tainted by spiritual and biochemical poison(s), no matter where we live, unless we were to live apart and isolated from wider society, like some of the very few remaining tribes that have not integrated and ingratiated themselves with the Satanic global system. In essence, it is now seemingly impossible to obey and communicate with the Creator, much less effect any positive change in the local and global situation. On that note, I respectfully disagree with the notion that the Satanists do not also want to destroy the planet and humanity. Certainly, doing so is but part of their means to the end, but selling souls to Satan and destroying the planet/humanity are not mutually exclusive goals. They are arguably linked and inextricably interdependent.

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On 3/29/2020 at 5:51 AM, 313 Seeker said:

 The main people (in the 'media') who try to convince you that there is no conspiracy are the same who try to convince us that there is no shaytan. Yet they themselves worship him. Why do they do that? Why do they cover up the truth? Because Shaytan is a deceiver and a liar.

There are some people who have spoken out about this system, like this man.

One is the movement of the AntiChrist (Messih el Dajjal), and the second is the movement of the AntiMahdi (Sufiani). Most Shia here know about those characters who will emerge prior to Jesus and Mahdi. Just like there are forces paving the way (conspiring) and preparing for the Mahdi and Jesus to arrive, we have the forces of evil working and plotting towards the emergence of their Imams. Also, the true Mahdi/Jesus movements are currently fighting and struggling and resisting the other. This fight is happening primarily on three levels:

1- Spiritual 

2- Mental

3- Physical

In the Qur'an it is written that hypocrites are in the lowest levels of hell. That means that if you want to serve Satan the most, you need to pretend that you are really good, while you are actually bad ( hence AntiChrist will pretend to be Christ, and same for AntiMahdi pretending to be the Mahdi ) That is why the main conspiracy-fact is that Shaytan descendants and followers use righteous religion to deceive people. (This would include fake conspiracy theorists, who are also called 'Shills', or 'Fronts' - as the famous quote says - “The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.” )

Interesting threads as usual brother. Specially the part about the hypocrites pretending to be the good while being the worst. Maybe that applies to us aswell, pretend to be bad but being the best. If you know what I mean.

Also the spiritual, mental, physical is a very interestering topic. The mind the body and soul, how they interact with each other and why sometimes to go against each other as if they are impartial from each other and just a means for this world and not the hereafter.

The interview is also good, remember it from years ago. Still relevant for today.

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We keep on hearing the word "Conspiracy", and most of us look down at anybody who blows the whistle. So as Muslim Shia of Ahl Bayt - in sh Allah - let us get the facts right, using the knowledge and information we were given in Islamic texts.

There are Conspiracy, but most of them are far-fetched. Remember every real conspiracy of enemies are always weak, that's how we can realized it.

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We have the enemies of Allah planning and plotting and scheming non-stop, but the bottom line is that Allah's plot and schemes are better.

When enemy plan, it is Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) who either proceed it or not. So it is by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) Will the plan of enemy happens or not, and if it's happens then Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) have wisdom behind it and if not, then Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) have wisdom behind it.

Edited by Abu Nur

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I will never understand how "Conspiracy theory" came to mean the same thing as "False statement"

As if powerful people will not just get together or have a plan, never happens :rolleyes:

Google: Lavon Affair, USS Liberty, Operation Paperclip, Haavara Agreement, Operation Cyclone, Operation Ajax, MK Ultra

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53 minutes ago, MuhammadFreeman said:

I will never understand how "Conspiracy theory" came to mean the same thing as "False statement"

CIA. They weaponized the term in the 60s to smear those who rejected the findings of the Warren Report. http://www.jfklancer.com/CIA.html

Now anyone who dares to question is dismissed for being a flat Earth believing lizard people fearing tinfoil hat wearing lunatic. I'm disappointed to see a few people like this on Shiachat.

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16 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

CIA. They weaponized the term in the 60s to smear those who rejected the findings of the Warren Report. http://www.jfklancer.com/CIA.html

Now anyone who dares to question is dismissed for being a flat Earth believing lizard people fearing tinfoil hat wearing lunatic. I'm disappointed to see a few people like this on Shiachat.

I mean, now you can retaliate with a weapon of your own: The weapon of knowledge and raw facts. It's elevated men to a status of just slightly below God.

Edited by Hameedeh
typo; me changed to men

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On 3/29/2020 at 5:51 AM, 313 Seeker said:

Salam Alaikum,

Anyway, before I bore any of you, maybe you can share your thoughts on how we can follow Allah's commandments of fighting corruption and conspiracies of Satan, until there is no more fitna left.

Thanks,

Shakir 6:162] Say. Surely my prayer and my sacrifice and my life and my death are (all) for Allah, the Lord of the worlds.

Be sincere!

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... let not the life of the world beguile you, nor let the deceiver(devil(la)) deceive you in regards to God. 31:33

16 hours ago, MuhammadFreeman said:

a weapon of your own: The weapon of knowledge and raw facts

salam,

“Say (to the people O’ Muhammad): ‘Do you wish to teach Allah about your Din (complete way of life) whereas Allah knows all that is contained in the Heavens and all that is upon the Earth; and surely Allah has complete knowledge of everything.” 49:16

ABUL ALA MAUDUDI(WITH TAFSIR) (49:16) Say, (O Prophet), (to these pretenders to faith): “Are you apprising Allah of your faith? Allah knows all that is in the heavens and the Earth. Allah has full knowledge of everything.”

8 hours ago, layman said:

Be sincere!

& Serve your Lord until there comes to you that which is certain. 15:99

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