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COVID-19 - The Big Picture

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Please do not assume that information presented as facts is indeed factual. Shiachat is a discussion site, not a news site. It's fine to discuss conspiracy theories, but be aware that logic and skepticism are healthy and wise. 

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There is growing concern that online disinformation could be having real world health impacts. Research by Dr.. Daniel Allington, senior lecturer in social and cultural artificial intelligence at King’s College London, suggested there was a statistically notable link between people who believed false claims about the coronavirus and people who were willing to flout the government’s social distancing guidelines.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/apr/08/influencers-being-key-distributors-of-coronavirus-fake-news

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9 hours ago, justAnothermuslim said:

If the FDA does not know if an IgG antibody to SARS-CoV-2 after recovering from the infection is protective against a future infection, then they certainly don’t know if an antibody caused by a vaccine will prevent infection either.

Salam probably FDA knows about this but FDA doesn't  approve anything until big pharma companies give enough money  to FDA to make business  plan for using it.

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12 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam probably FDA knows about this but FDA doesn't  approve anything until big pharma companies give enough money  to FDA to make business  plan for using it.

salam

i do agree with that they know.

i think the article is telling us that their narratives failed under further scrutiny.

In matters concerning security or fear, i shouldn't be spreading news about it, if my understanding of Quran [4:83] is correct.

 

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16 hours ago, Mohammed-Mehdi said:

Mentions lsraeI in the article so l checked. Afghanistan(ranked 42) and lsraeI (ranked 43) with bothe about 300 deaths.

l do not find the article believable.

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Question from right-wing radio:

Eighty-year-old Nancy Pelosi is walking around with her body guards -okay- but is not social-distancing from others. Then she is in the 2nd or 3rd line of bleachers at the funeral service, allegedly without a mask.

Many other people cannot attend to relative's funerals -or go to school, work, and so forth- but here she is, as well as Senator Amie Klobuchar, attending a funeral, in a North Central University auditorium, without masks on with hundreds of people.

And we have a C-19 Emergency? the radio asked.

Another funeral event for Floyd will be Saturday in North Carolina where he was born.

Yarrabi.

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Singapore

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/singapore/

Last updated: June 12, 2020, 23:09 GMT

 

Total Case: 39,850

Total Infection (35% of TC): 53,757

Total Recovered: 28,040

Total Death: 25

Recovery Rate: 70.36%

Case Fatality Rate (CFR): 0.06%

Infection Fatality Rate (IFR): 0.04%

 

Don’t worry too much about the “high” numbers in some countries.

Stay safe.

For USA, I found these explanations:

 

1. A primary reason the numbers are so sky-high is doctors and coroners are encouraged to say just about every cause of death is covid19 if corona was in present in any way.

 

2. The Covid-19 testing is not accurate. The CDC itself state that the RT PCR tests are not a diagnostic tool and result in “presumptive positives,” a.k.a an assumption. A positive PCR test doesn’t necessarily means you’re infected with a full-bodied SARS-Cov-2 virus.

 

3. CDC has been combining active infection rates with those that detect recovery from Covid-19, further bloating the numbers.

 

4. Pre-existing conditions are not even considered as a cause of death when it comes to signing off on a death certificate.

 

I think, most people miss the fact that we’re more than just a piece of meat. Read on...

 

But what is assiduously avoided at all cost is any reference to our most potent defense against any virus; our body’s natural immune system. Try as I might I couldn’t find anything about this first line of defense on the World Health Organizations (WHO) website or Centers for Disease Control (CDC) website. It’s as if it doesn’t exist and is completely irrelevant.

If these organizations were genuinely concerned about the health of citizens they would obviously discuss the vital role a healthy immune system plays in protecting us from illnesses. But since they don’t its obvious some other motive is at work, at least to me, and I strongly suspect to other critical thinkers as well.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/we-dont-need-no-stinking-vaccine-covid-19


 

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Ayatollah Hakim’s statement on need to observe principles of health, cooperation with medical staff

https://en.abna24.com/news//dd_1045658.html

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AhlulBayt News Agency (ABNA): The Iraqi source of emulation said, “Those who have had Coronavirus previously and their ‎health has now improved, must now be able to work with health centres to provide their ‎blood plasma to reduce the pain and suffering of those infected with the virus.” ‎
 

Ayatollah Sayyed Muhammad-Sa’id al-Hakim, an Iraqi source of emulation, thanked the ‎country’s medical and healthcare staff for explaining religious teachings about providing ‎blood plasma to treat patients with COVID-19 (Coronavirus) and other issues.‎

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Tip 1: It is befitting that those who have had Coronavirus previously and their health has ‎now improved,...............

Tip 2: We would like to thank all the medical and healthcare staff, including doctors, nurses ‎and other people who serve in pharmacies and health centres and risk their lives to serve ‎their fellow human beings...............................


Tip 3: We ask all believers to follow the health instructions and the guidelines of social ‎distancing,..........................

Tip 4: We thank all the believers for their cohesion and cooperation with each other and the ‎social solidarity they have had in these difficult conditions...............

https://en.abna24.com/news//dd_1045658.html

 

In conclusion, Ayatollah al-Hakim prayed to God Almighty for the acceptance of everyone’s ‎good deeds and for the sake of Imam al-Mahdi, to remove the tribulation of the ‎Coronavirus, to cover the afflicted with the clothes of good health and welfare and to protect ‎all the believers under the protection of the al-thaqalayn (two weighty things – the Quran and ‎Ahl al-Bayt).‎

https://en.abna24.com/news//dd_1045658.html

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3 hours ago, Mohammed-Mehdi said:

I don't even have to read the article, just the headline and I already believe it. They did this after the CIA brought down the twin towers with tactical nukes as well (ObL was a CIA asset in the 80s, O-bomber has him "killed" to cover the tracks of the CIA & SEAL Team 6 is too brainwashed to realize it).

Every time there is a major "crisis" in America, follow the trail of the disappearing money and watch how the life of the working class gets harder. It's no wonder people are burning cities to the ground and killing police (who help enforce the will of finance capitalism).

I'm just wondering how long it's going to continue on for.

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3 hours ago, Mohammed-Mehdi said:

The Zionist alliance is 'the enemy' of the Muslims and Imam Al Mahdi (AJTF)

Cool.

That has nothing to do with me or any other working class American. (Not you specifically) Blame the people who are really to blame, not those who are powerless to effect any sort of actual change.

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On 6/17/2020 at 12:10 AM, Abdul-Hadi said:

That has nothing to do with me or any other working class American. (Not you specifically) Blame the people who are really to blame, not those who are powerless to effect any sort of actual change.

It has everything to do with American. I am just explaining the important reality we should look at in regards to what you was wondering. 

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3 hours ago, Mohammed-Mehdi said:

It has everything to do with American. I am just explaining the important reality we should look at in regards to what you was wondering. 

Wrong.

It has nothing to do with American people, but the elites that seized control of our "ship of state" circa 11.23.63 and consolidated that hold for more nefarious ends with Operation Gladio B (Middle east stay behind paramilitaries) on 9.11.2001 when they shot two missiles at the world trade center and then demolished them neatly right into their basements.

Seriously, read up on the original Operation Gladio in Europe and then realize that the rootless, wandering, globalist elites that control America had a (B) team put into operation after the fall of the USSR, which they did not see coming-- not the policy experts in the think tanks, not washington DC policy "wonks", not the politicians, not the media.

The fact of the matter is that these individuals, literally a handful not even 100 of them, depended on the conflict with the Soviet Union to keep the machines of America running and the bogeyman that the USSR was to maintain compliance among the average American person. When socialism collapsed in Eurasia, they lost that bogeyman, that anchor if you will for maintaining the compliance of the public-- lest the public begin asking for better working, living conditions (healthcare?); the CIA activated its own assets in the Soviet-Afghan war against the American public and performed a snuff film in NYC on live television.

Ask yourself: where was the plan wreckage in SHanksville, PA? Where was the plane wreckage at the pentagon?

Why did thin, aluminum body jetliners not crumple into the front of a steel structure the way that they crumple upon a 5-10mph impact with structures or steel luggage carts on the taxiways? There are numerous examples of this happening, (one of which was a Saudi plane) and you can look them up.

Don't be a fool, the evidence is all there --clear as crystal.

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If we agree that this alliance is a reality and about the global arrogance and their power then surely we can agree that this affects the Americans and that Americans more than many others have a special challenge in this regard and a special opportunity, don't we?

That is what I meant by "having to do with". 

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3 hours ago, Mohammed-Mehdi said:

If we agree that this alliance is a reality and about the global arrogance and their power then surely we can agree that this affects the Americans and that Americans more than many others have a special challenge in this regard and a special opportunity, don't we?

That is what I meant by "having to do with". 

Ok, I understand now.

What I am trying to say is that contrary to popular belief, Americans don't "vote these people in". We haven't had a legitimate election in this country for 40 years, the cabal has long ago figured out how to rig elections through gerrymandering/redistricting, the "two-party system" (look at what happened to Bernie Sanders both in 2016 and this year), and I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if these elements hadn't figured out how to "flip the vote tally" with a simple line of code installed into voting machines.

America has some very serious problems. I say that as an American, but the narrative that "Americans are all evil/The Great Satan" because they "vote these people in" is a false narrative that is pushed by people who simply do not have the information that I and others do about the events of the past 40 years aka "They wouldn't know because they don't live here". Nobody and I do mean NOBODY who is the "guy on the street" wants anything to do with these stupid "regime change wars" anymore because they see that they are schemes to get vast amounts of money out of the state for people like George Soros, Bill Gates, so on and so forth.

Apologies if I seem rude, but I cannot allow this narrative to continue because that's what the alphabet soup agencies want to spread so that they can continue to thin out the population by sending our young people over to die in meaningless wars that are fought for control of financial markets.

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31 minutes ago, Abdul-Hadi said:

Seriously, read up on the original Operation Gladio in Europe and

This was more like the Maquis and a lot of the planning was where to do air-drops.

12 minutes ago, Abdul-Hadi said:

out how to rig elections through gerrymandering/redistricting, the "two-party system" (look at what happened to Bernie Sanders

And rigging the votes themselves a`la Chicago. Wait until this Fall when sameday registration coupled with mail-in illegal voting dominates California, Philidelphia and other placed election results.

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On 6/23/2020 at 2:49 PM, Abdul-Hadi said:

t has nothing to do with American people

It has an effect on Americans.

Americans have struggles and oppurtunities in regard to the evil global system which headquarter is in Washington. 

If you agree with this then we agree there is a relation.

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On 6/23/2020 at 3:08 PM, Abdul-Hadi said:

America has some very serious problems. I say that as an American, but the narrative that "Americans are all evil/The Great Satan" because they "vote these people in" is a false narrative that is pushed by people who simply do not have the information that I and others do about the events of the past 40 years aka "They wouldn't know because they don't live here". Nobody and I do mean NOBODY who is the "guy on the street" wants anything to do with these stupid "regime change wars" anymore because they see that they are schemes to get vast amounts of money out of the state for people like George Soros, Bill Gates, so on and so forth.

I know about what you are talking. It doesn't make the US not the Great Satan. It is still the Great Satan which opresses Americans who do not have a just system and non-Americans. 

But to say that they are totally helpless and not capable is false too. They, or some of them, do have oppurtunities and responsibilities and there are many ways which are put forward which Americans can take, which doesn't require most of the Americans to stand up and demand a regime change to cause significant change. 

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3 hours ago, Mohammed-Mehdi said:

I know about what you are talking. It doesn't make the US not the Great Satan. It is still the Great Satan which opresses Americans who do not have a just system and non-Americans. 

You're confusing the elites who are in control of the US govt with America and Americans themselves. America itself, the land is not a "great satan". The 99.999% of people who live in America are not "great satans" lest you believe that I myself, my family, my neighbors are "great satans". The entire "great satan" narrative comes from the US media who worked in collusion with CIA asset Osama bin Laden to help provide a cover for the elites to shoot what amounted to a 2,996 person snuff film when they demolished the WTC in 2001 to get rid of files and cases against economic and business elites in this country (tower 7)
 

 

3 hours ago, Mohammed-Mehdi said:

But to say that they are totally helpless and not capable is false too

No it's not, and you have to look at all of the "elections" since 1984 to realize that, when Ronald Reagan "won" every state but one.

They're rigged. There is a system in place to fix elections in the US so that the elite class is never out of power & it hinges around the election bureau and the media, because the media's job is to manufacture a consensus. I'd be willing to bet that votes aren't even really counted and that 2000 was the first time they openly and flagrantly did this.
 

 

3 hours ago, Mohammed-Mehdi said:

They, or some of them, do have oppurtunities and responsibilities and there are many ways which are put forward which Americans can take, which doesn't require most of the Americans to stand up and demand a regime change to cause significant change. 

Please name these opportunities and responsibilities, because I'd really like to know what they are so that we can use them to fix this country finally, although it will likely be too late by then as this criminal cabal has all but bled the country dry and set it on fire.

 

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