Viruses & Vaccinations

[PureExistence1]

On 2/4/2023 at 3:50 PM, justAnothermuslim said:

 

How do you explain for what’s happening?

 

Was it a mistake?

 

Many people consider the vaccines were a mistake—that they were poorly designed due to the rush, and not very effective for the same reasons. But if this were true, why haven’t they stopped the vaccination campaigns? They have not. And it is understandable, although sinister and evil, for the vaccine makers and pushers to pretend no mistake was made and to act as if there was no problem with them. They still could stop pushing to get people vaccinated without copping to any “mistake” they may have made. But they haven’t. They are going just as strong, if not stronger, to coerce people and children to get the jab.

 

 

Same ol song and dance, like how they invaded Iraq and said oops, our mistake-we had bad info 

They continuously want the US and rest of the world to believe theyre completely inept and simply making all these "mistakes"...well, this play is gettin old...how long have they been using it yet? People havent grown up yet to realize it. People have amnesia and dont remember...thats one of rhe reasons we keep seing the same dang faces in all these pwerful positions-cuz people forget the "mistakes" or other evil stuff they did in the past..ugh...its sad really..

[notme]

Science and technology improving over time is a feature, not a flaw.

[justAnothermuslim]

[Mod Note: The information below the photos is from a personal blog that was deemed inaccurate by medical authorities. See this link:]

https://www.voicesforvaccines.org/jtf_topics/what-happened-to-alexis-lorenze/

 

This is one of the most horrific vaccine injury stories I’ve ever heard of.

Alexis Lorenze is a 23-year old young woman with a history of Paroxysmal Nocturnal Hemoglobinuria (PNH) since January 2024.

The hematologist at her hospital (UC Irvine Health) refused to give her further care for her PNH unless she took the Tetanus, Pneumococcal and Meningitis vaccines.

Within 10 minutes of the 3 vaccines which were given all at the same time, Alexis went temporarily blind in both eyes, had a locked jaw, began vomiting and then things went horribly downhill from there.

Source

Edited February 12, 2025 by Hameedeh
Mod Note and LINK

[Hasani Samnani]

1 hour ago, justAnothermuslim said:

Vaccine injury stories

According to many well known shia chatters such a thing like vaccine injury doesn't exist and if you dare say so you're just another conspiracy theorist or even worse ( pearl clutching can now commence).....heavens to betsy...an anti-vaxxer. 

All vaccines are safe and effective,  have gone thru a kinds of testing ( but never level 1 Evidence ), the local Big pharma shill told us that vaccines can could never ever hurt someone. /Sarc 

C'MON @justAnothermuslim there no way that three highly used and recommended vaccine could cause such side effects it has to be ......wait for it .....Parvovirus....because the reaction happened minutes after the vaccine administration.

So obviously the nasty parvovirus hiding in the room took the opportunity to suddenly cause an infection, even  though patient never had any signs of Parvovirus. The hospital UC Irvine,  quickly spirited the doctor who ordered the three completely non indicated vaccines out of the state. They tried to shut down all news media reports and refused to test or treat the patient for obvious vaccine injury.

In a hospital if a pt suffer is a serious dangerous reaction to any med, an immediate report is filed, a sentinel event is declared and a root cause analysis is initiated.

C'MON @justAnothermuslim all govt emergency use authorization vaccines are safe and effective,  even if not fully approved since they have not gone thru phase 1 to 4 of testing , pharmacodistribution,  pharmacodynamics, pharmacokinetics,  with proper post market pharmocovigilance studies.

It's not like there was a Govt declared pandemic and a vaccine was rushed and forced on people and a number of people died and thousands were paralyzed.....Swine flu....haha gotcha....it's happened  before. What do you mean you never heard of that.....and yet you still pushed people to take a minimally tested genetic based vaccine on delivery platform never before used in humans and the few times it was used on animals in studies from the 2010's all the anjmal test subjects suffered major side effects....like myocarditis and often died.

It was completely abandoned as delivery platform for 10 years.....because it caused too many side effects or often death. Even the inventors of the delivery platform were against it being used unless there was proper longterm testing.

 

Edited September 25, 2024 by Hasani Samnani

[Ashvazdanghe]

4 hours ago, Hasani Samnani said:

According to many well known shia chatters such a thing like vaccine injury doesn't exist and if you dare say so you're just another conspiracy theorist or even worse ( pearl clutching can now commence).....heavens to betsy...an anti-vaxxer. 

Salam nobody has denied vaccine injury  but on the other hand there is total difference between medical care services which in Iran there is real  zero vaccine injury in homemade vaccines due to high standards & not becoming a commercial matter although unfortunately there is some fraud people who are trying to promote foreign vaccines which may cause happening vaccine injury  due to advertising foreign vaccines while homemade vaccines in Iran are totally safe which until now there has been real  zero vaccine injury in homemade vaccines  . 

anyway I don't deny vaccine injuries in other countries because their medical market has hijacked by westerner companies .

4 hours ago, Hasani Samnani said:

It's not like there was a Govt declared pandemic and a vaccine was rushed and forced on people and a number of people died and thousands were paralyzed.

It's malfunctioning your government while  it's totally different in Iran which people of Iran trust to their Govt in medical field which maybe has some shortcoming but always gives trustworthy service with highest standards to people of Iran . 

[justAnothermuslim]

Salam bro @Hasani Samnani

I think it’s time for you to enlighten us how these mRNA “vaccines” works, especially what’s the ultimate fate of those cells that produce the non-self spike proteins, in layman’s terms.

The mainstream narrative is that, the non-self spike proteins will trigger our immune system to produce antibodies. Period.

 

[Hasani Samnani]

1 hour ago, justAnothermuslim said:

I think it’s time for you to enlighten us how these mRNA “vaccines” works, especially what’s the ultimate fate of those cells that produce the non-self spike proteins, in layman’s terms.

So I though about your request...The issue is that I can tell you about the pathophysiology of the experimental mRNA gene agents , and their mechanisms of action, but the hard core vaccinophiles will  just stick their fingers in their ears, and unfortunately never accept science that doesn't come from BBC, or CNN, or some other mainstream sources whose outlook is biased due to need to keep the Big Pharma dollars flowing in to their pockets and allow them to stay employed. Nonetheless I will elucidate a few of the more devastating side effects of these experimental agents which people unfortunately willingly or unwillingly add to their bodies.

I think in the end it will be important when we see side effects in our selves,  our families and loved ones we at least know what happened and then maybe just maybe some people will investigate and try to save themselves and their loved ones from suffering and misery by reversing some of these effects and many can be reversed since Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) in his mercy provides a cure for every ailment.

The mRNA meds are associated with more frequent breakthrough infections, antagonism of tumour suppressors and long term persistent expression in the gastrointestinal tract and axillary lymph nodes in particular. This is marked clinically by chronic inflammation ( sustained SIRS)  especially cardiovascular disease and cancer. PET/CT , nuclear medicine studies,  molecular imaging  and finally pathology studies thru biopsies and autopsies have quite extensively shown the effects.

 

The mRNA hijacks your immune system to stop immune surveillance for other infections to concentrate on making antibodies to spike protein, one aspect of this immune dysregulation is IG4 hyper response, the active suppressions of certain populations of T cells which protect the body from contagious infections ( why some people can not shake off the cold or Upper respiratory tract infections)  ( repeated bouts of flu or colds) . 

 

The mRNA depresses  and suppresses production of NK natural killer cells and other T cells which daily kill the 10 cancer cells everyone's body produces daily. 

 

The spike protein  accumulates in and causes endothelial cell inflammation resulting in vascular blockages, myocarditis,  pericarditis,  heart attacks  atrial fibrillation and strokes. Since endothelium lines the vessels of the body and the heart internally, it's is everywhere in the body. 

 

What's even more crazy is the Lipid Nanoparticles (LNP) come in accumulate and deposit themselves in damaged myocardium ( heart muscle) so Instead of normal repair, now that part of the heart can never repair properly resulting in atrial fibrillation,  arrhythmia, and other conducting system disturbances. Meaning the  heart beats abnormally resulting in more damage and in a vicious circle until the pt finally dies...this is autopsy proven.

 

Now the immune system which also protect you from lymphoma and leukemia so called hematopoetic system cancers. HOWEVER,   imaging shows the vaccines as soon as it is injected it accumulates In lymph nodes near injection site, then this overwhelms the lymph nodes and sometimes bone marrow and spleen ....all part of the reticuloendothelial system with the thymus and can again cause T cell suppression,  which results in leukemia and lymphoma In a very complicated pathway.

 

Also the other cancers that's have been linked now to the spike protein and immune system deregulation include colon, breast, lung, prostate and kidney cancers. This is mainly by down regulating the tumor suppressor genes, which are Allah's natural chemotherapeutic protection agent. 

The worst part for people who were already sick or had medical issues, the vaccine mediated immune dysregulation causes worsening of you other immune based disorders especially if autoimmune or related to inflammation eg asthma, autoimmune arthritis,  autoimmune liver diseases,  autoimmune kidney diseases, autoimmune neurological disease,  nerve related inflammation, chronic skin diseases,  multiple sclerosis, Neurodegenerative disease,  inflammation related brain fog, COPD, diabetes , and heart disease are all worsened or accelerated.

I will later describe a few more major adverse effects,  but that's enough for now.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 26, 2024 by Hasani Samnani

[Hasani Samnani]

On 9/25/2024 at 8:07 PM, Hasani Samnani said:

but the hard core vaccinophiles will  just stick their fingers in their ears, and unfortunately never accept science

Nonetheless I will add the references,  for those with more medical or science oriented minds which is evidence for everything state above.

Number 31 is the most important paper to read. 

 

 

References

 

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Edited October 3, 2024 by ShiaChat Mod
Link removed. Anti-vaccine website is not allowed.

[justAnothermuslim]

On 9/25/2024 at 8:10 PM, Hasani Samnani said:

31

Bhakdi S, Burkhardt A. On COVID vaccines: why they cannot work, and irrefutable evidence of their causative role in deaths after vaccination. [Mod Note: Link removed.]

yeah, i know about this :-). Thanks.

[It's me hello]

On 9/25/2024 at 8:10 PM, Hasani Samnani said:

Number 31 is the most important paper to read. 

Bhakdi S, Burkhardt A. On COVID vaccines: why they cannot work, and irrefutable evidence of their causative role in deaths after vaccination. https://doctors4covidethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/end-covax.pdf

This is easily one of the worst "studies" I have ever read. First of all, it's not even peer-reviewed. It's a preprint. There's a reason for that. (Disclaimer: I'm not even exaggerating this is one of the worst "studies" I've ever read.)

The preprint suggests a theoretical reason (ie. unproven reason) why vaccines would not protect against infection and further posits an unproven mechanism for how the vaccine could trigger "self-destruction". Ok... let's see the evidence...

The author(s) of the preprint conducted histopathologic (study of diseases of tissues) analysis on the organs of 15 persons who have died after vaccination. Not because of vaccination... after vaccination. The author(s) find that the histopathological analysis of the organs matches the proposed mechanism of "self-destruction":

Quote

This combination of multifocal, T-lymphocyte-dominated pathology that clearly reflects the process of
immunological self-attack is without precedent. Because vaccination was the single common
denominator between all cases, there can be no doubt that it was the trigger of self-destruction in these
deceased individuals.

So in short, the preprint proposed a mechanism of how the Covid-19 vaccine causes self-destruction (not proven), found 15 people who died after being vaccinated, found results that lined up with the unproven mechanism and claimed that the evidence was conclusive.

Major issues:

1. Sample size is ridiculously small. It is not a representative sample. We cannot generalize from such a small sample size. Also, why were these people selected? Is it because they were vaccinated prior to death? You do realize that people die after being vaccinated for reasons that have literally nothing to do with vaccination, right?

2. There is literally no control group. How can we isolate a causative factor without controlling for all other variables? Why didn't we get a comparison to an equal size of unvaccinated people? This is literally the most foundational and basic principle of the scientific method.

3. The author assumes that the only common factor between all cases was vaccination- which is not true. We don't know if they all drank water that day. How do we know it's not water that killed them? What about the million other things everyone does every day? How do we know that none of those were causative factors, but the vaccine is? This is one of the benefits of having a control group. For all we know, brushing teeth causes "self-destruction".

4. All of the 15 people were previously autopsied and found no link to the vaccine, but the families decided to have them undergo an autopsy by a group who was known for vaccine skepticism. This is clear bias. Nothing wrong with biases, but they should be known by readers.

This is literally not even science. It is absolutely unbelievable that you are on here claiming credentials to spew straight up misinformation... Like, it wasn't even hard to verify this information. This "study" literally fails the basic methodology of the scientific method. Anyone who has any knowledge of statistics and the scientific method can see how ridiculous of a "study" this is.

I'm sorry, but your method of posting a list of studies you probably have never read in your life that you likely got from some obscure social media channel is easily refutable. It is clear that you have not read anything that you are linking. Additionally, I seriously doubt your credentials at this point. I'm not even a doctor, and it was easy to figure this out. If you aren't seeing these glaring issues while having a medical background... either you forgot everything you learned or are greatly exaggerating your credentials.

Just for anyone in the future... If someone posts a list of more than 3-5 studies and uses that to make themselves seem like a figure of authority; just read through one study and you will often find that they literally have no idea what they're talking about. I believe that people have the right to be skeptical, but this is just paranoid delusion at this point- and it's costing lives. It needs to be called out and refuted.

[Guest guest]

16 hours ago, It's me hello said:

How do we know it's not water that killed them? What about the million other things everyone does every day? How do we know that none of those were causative factors, but the vaccine is? This is one of the benefits of having a control group. For all we know, brushing teeth causes "self-destruction".

How many people had an adverse reaction because they drank alcohol before or after their vaccination and it was the alcohol mixed with the vaccine that caused a medical issue? 

Edited October 1, 2024 by ShiaChat Mod
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[justAnothermuslim]

On 10/1/2024 at 3:57 AM, It's me hello said:

The preprint suggests a theoretical reason (ie. unproven reason) why vaccines would not protect against infection and further posits an unproven mechanism for how the vaccine could trigger "self-destruction".

So, what is your proven mechanism for how mRNA vaccine could not trigger “self-destrucrion”?

[It's me hello]

On 10/3/2024 at 8:48 PM, justAnothermuslim said:

So, what is your proven mechanism for how mRNA vaccine could not trigger “self-destrucrion”?

You realize that you are asking me a nonsensical question... right? You are asking what is the mechanism by which something doesn't happen. The Answer: It just doesn't happen. That is the mechanism. The non-existence of the mechanism that makes it happen is sufficient evidence to say it doesn't happen.

[justAnothermuslim]

On 12/2/2024 at 12:05 AM, It's me hello said:

You realize that you are asking me a nonsensical question... right?

oh really? Is it not a fact that the cells that have taken up these mRNAs will produce non-self spike proteins?

so could you please explain what happen to these cells.

 

[Haji 2003]

Iranian MMR vaccine

 

 

[justAnothermuslim]

Hopefully, something good will come out from this testing and researh, for the sake of children.

 

U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announced in a Cabinet meeting on Thursday that the government has launched a “massive testing and research effort” to determine what causes autism.

He said the effort involves hundreds of scientists globally and will be completed by September. Once the environmental causes of autism are identified, “We’ll be able to eliminate those exposures,” he said.

At the meeting, President Donald Trump responded, “There will be no bigger news conference than that.” He added, “If you can come up with that answer where you stop taking something, you stop eating something, or maybe it’s a shot. But something’s causing it.”

Reporting on the announcement in the mainstream media framed Kennedy as a longtime vaccine critic who has put forward the “discredited” and “debunked” theory that there is a link between vaccines and autism.

In a conversation with Fox’s Martha MacCallum, who said studies have shown there is no connection between vaccines and autism, Kennedy responded:

“The studies that they did were very very narrow. They did about 17 studies and the Institute of Medicine, which is part of the National Academies of Sciences, said that 14 of those studies are invalid. And the biggest weakness of those studies is that they never studied vaccinated versus unvaccinated, which is the only way that you can really make this determination.

“But more importantly, none of the vaccines that are given to children within the first six months of life were ever studied.”

Kennedy said the autism study, coordinated through the National Institutes of Health (NIH), is not focused exclusively on vaccines. “Everything is on the table — our food system, our water, our air — we will find out what’s triggering this epidemic. We know it is an environmental toxin that is causing this cataclysm. Through research at NIH, we will find an answer to this question.”

He also said that “epidemics are not caused by genes” and that although there may be a genetic vulnerability, there also must be an environmental toxin.

“We’ll soon identify the root causes of the autism epidemic.”

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[PureExistence1]

Salaam, 

Found this review of the medical history of rhe 2 girls that supposedly died of measles to be an interesting read..

https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/my-expert-review-of-the-medical-records?utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

[justAnothermuslim]

On 4/16/2025 at 10:17 AM, PureExistence1 said:

Salaam, 

Found this review of the medical history of rhe 2 girls that supposedly died of measles to be an interesting read..

https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/my-expert-review-of-the-medical-records?utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

yeah...medical error, the third leading cause of death in US according to this.

Now that Dr Makary is the head of FDA, maybe he can put some influence to rectify it.

 

[PureExistence1]

4 hours ago, justAnothermuslim said:

yeah...medical error

Yup...medical error and labeled as "measles"...

[TheWayofTheSalaaf]

On 1/25/2020 at 3:53 PM, notme said:

I did say research it. And if you don't understand the information that is available ask your doctor or an immunologist and study whatever background texts you need. Don't simply dismiss it because you don't understand. 

And then, after that, get the shot for the sake of herd immunity. 

The doctors don't know better. You ask 50 doctors and they have all read the same one flawed study. It's not 50 opinions is 50 people who blindly follow the same one peice of propaganda. It's like a religion to them.

[Haji 2003]

11 hours ago, TheWayofTheSalaaf said:

The doctors don't know better.

According to the CDC there were 285 measles cases in the US, in total in 2024. So far this year there have been 884 of which 97% have been amongst people who are unvaccinated.

Source:

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html

[TheWayofTheSalaaf]

9 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

According to the CDC there were 285 measles cases in the US, in total in 2024. So far this year there have been 884 of which 97% have been amongst people who are unvaccinated.

Source:

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html

I could care less about the CDC. I don't respect their opinion and more than that I feel they are a great evil. 

[Haji 2003]

4 minutes ago, TheWayofTheSalaaf said:

I don't respect their opinion

They're not opinions, they are measuring the numbers of cases.

[TheWayofTheSalaaf]

9 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

They're not opinions, they are measuring the numbers of cases.

I wouldn't trust them if they told me water was wet.

[Hameedeh]

From Statista, a global data and business intelligence platform.

Number of new cases of measles (rubeola) in the U.S. from 1985 to 2025

 

[samy]

On 4/28/2025 at 2:47 PM, TheWayofTheSalaaf said:

I wouldn't trust them if they told me water was wet.

Very funny. It makes me laugh. In a good way. 

[Son of Placid]

On 4/28/2025 at 3:28 AM, Haji 2003 said:

According to the CDC there were 285 measles cases in the US, in total in 2024. So far this year there have been 884 of which 97% have been amongst people who are unvaccinated.

Source:

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html

Of course they're unvaccinated. MMR would have protected them.
The measles vaccine is a live attenuated vaccine. It is a weakened form of the virus that doesn't effect healthy people but does stimulate the immune system. 
If you haven't got it, get it before they make an mRNA version.

[justAnothermuslim]

As I understand it, Kennedy is only trying to make amecia healthy again with the tagline MAHA. So don’t be too harsh on him.

 

RFK Jr. is perhaps the most impactful HHS Secretary we’ve ever seen—but if you read the mainstream news, you’d think his first 100 days were a disaster.

While chronic disease drains trillions from Americans every year, the press can’t stop obsessing over measles.

Just look at these headlines:

“As measles cases rise, some parents become vaccine enthusiasts.”

“US measles cases near 900, outbreaks reported in 10 states.”

“Measles may be making a comeback in the U.S., Stanford Medicine experts warn.”

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He argued that people who have concerns about the MMR vaccine—whether it’s due to aborted fetal debris or DNA particles—deserve access to treatment options.

“And that’s what we’re developing at CDC right now,” Kennedy said, “protocols for treating measles.”

Kennedy then delivered a devastating jab at the dominant measles narrative, putting everything into perspective and leaving the panel silent.

“I want to say this,” Kennedy began.

“We’ve had four measles deaths in this country in 20 years. We have 100,000 autism cases a year. We have 38% of our kids now are diabetic or pre-diabetic. That should be in the headlines,” he said.

*Applause erupted*

 

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[justAnothermuslim]

https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1918082410966557139