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4 hours ago, justAnothermuslim said:

So what’s happening here?

Are we in an enormous trial from our Lord?

Some people would just dismiss it by saying it’s not “peer reviewed” 

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Childhood vaccinations taking a hit in the US

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Indeed, childhood vaccinations have taken a hit since the arrival of the coronavirus. In part, that reflects the fact that all kinds of routines were disrupted by pandemic lockdowns, and some still haven’t returned to normal. 

But that’s not the whole story. Refusing to follow the advice of medical experts regarding vaccination has become a way to show allegiance to a particular brand of Republican partisanship.

https://www.latimes.com/science/newsletter/2022-12-13/coronavirus-today-the-people-who-face-the-greatest-covid-risk-coronavirus-today

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Outgoing National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director Dr. Anthony Fauci said Wednesday on CNN’s “At This Hour” that he had “no clue” why Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) wants to investigate vaccines.

Anchor Kate Bolduan said, “Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is now asking the Florida Supreme Court to greenlight an investigation into, and the way he put it is, any and all wrongdoing in Florida with respect to COVID-19 vaccine. What’s your reaction to that?”

Fauci said, “I don’t have a clue, Kate, what he’s asking for. We have a vaccine that unequivocally is highly effective and safe and has saved literally millions of lives. The Commonwealth Fund has come out with a report this past week that vaccinations have saved 3.2 million lives, 18 million hospitalizations, and approximately $1 trillion in costs. So what’s the problem with vaccines? I mean, vaccines are lifesaving. Quite frankly, Kate, I’m not sure what they’re trying to do down there.”

 

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“They did it for virtue signaling tribal reasons, and they wanted to feel superior to other people.” To break the spell, they must come to the realization that they were duped, they were fooled and that’s painful.

“If you buy a stock and your investment thesis is proven wrong, what you should do is pull a 180 and sell the stock, because you’re wrong. What I found, even with some of the greatest investors, is that if their ego was attached to it, they would ignore clear evidence that the thesis was compromised.

“Sometimes fraud would even be involved in some of these companies, but they would continue to buy the stock all the way down.

“That’s an analogy for what taking boosters is at this point — taking boosters for a product that doesn’t work at all, doesn’t prevent COVID nor transmission. Let’s say you think it’s safe and effective. But now there are serious safety concerns that are proven, so it’s literally your ego that’s going to kill you. We call that ‘dumb money’ on Wall Street, so think of this like a trade.

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Whether or not you believe that  covid was a bioweapon or not, specifically directed at China and Iran.

and whether or not you believe in vaccination complications I am sending all you guys detox protocols...use and share at will.

I feel that it is ethical and religious and medical obligation to share with my brothers and sisters in faith.

If you feel no need for these protocols, feel free to not open the link.

The protocols have reference websites as well.

Hopefully this will help some people who maybe suffering from other long covid or from spike protein induced complications.

https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/resources/spike-protein-detox-guide/

Also in multiple languages,  please share with those you care for as well.

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The rise in cardiac problems has been pointed to by some online as evidence that Covid vaccines are driving the rise in deaths, but this conclusion is not supported by the data. 

One type of Covid vaccine has been linked to a small rise in cases of heart inflammation and scarring (pericarditis and myocarditis). But this particular vaccine side-effect was mainly seen in boys and young men, while the excess deaths are highest in older men - aged 50 or more.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-64209221

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To those who believe the official narrative that the government has peddled to us, did you believe the official narrative of 9/11 as well?

Fool me once…

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1 hour ago, 313_Waiter said:

official narrative that the government has peddled to us

The difference this time is that there are lots of different governments with varying policies.

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I wonder why Iran a few months ago made it obligatory to be vaccinated against covid to enter the country?

How can this be islamic? Forcing muslims to take a experimental jab? Who  made this decision?

Are they runned by globalist and masons? Some of their politiians were atending WEF like Rohani and Zarif.

Also in G20 (Usa, Russia, China) last year the countries involved agreed on a digital passport for the next pandemic...and also agreed that mrna vaccines are safe. In the end of the doccument they give special thanks to the Rockefellers, UN, Etc

Doesnt seem like they are really enemies of each other

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On 1/29/2023 at 3:28 AM, Chiasalswe said:

In the end of the doccument they give special thanks to the Rockefellers

Plz share link

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12 hours ago, Chiasalswe said:

Salam Aleycum

I wonder why Iran a few months ago made it obligatory to be vaccinated against covid to enter the country?

How can this be islamic? Forcing muslims to take a experimental jab? Who  made this decision?

Are they runned by globalist and masons? Some of their politiians were atending WEF like Rohani and Zarif.

Also in G20 (Usa, Russia, China) last year the countries involved agreed on a digital passport for the next pandemic...and also agreed that mrna vaccines are safe. In the end of the doccument they give special thanks to the Rockefellers, UN, Etc

Doesnt seem like they are really enemies of each other

Iran has probably got elements working with nwo. 

I was asking myself the same thing. It could be that Iran was desperate to comply, and this was something every country was involved in pretty much.  I remember reading a blog something back about Iran (I'm still reading up to understand more) It showed how some within Iran were aligned with the nwo. If I find it I will share it here. Although I don't doubt the good and true ones of Iran. 

 

"Are they runned by globalist and masons? Some of their politiians were atending WEF like Rohani and Zarif."

 

Could it also be possible that with the way the world system of governance is at the present-sovereign countries have to have a voice in someway? Or that they are going with the program. 

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22. We recognize that the extensive COVID-19 immunization is a global public good and we will advance our effort to ensure timely, equitable and universal access to safe, affordable, quality and effective vaccines, therapeutics and diagnostics (VTDs). Acknowledging the adoption of the Ministerial Declaration on the WTO Response to the COVID-19 Pandemic and Preparedness for Future Pandemics and the Ministerial Decision on the TRIPS Agreement at the WTO's 12th Ministerial Conference (MC12), we note that, no later than six months from the date of the Ministerial Decision on the TRIPS Agreement, WTO members will decide on its extension to cover the production and supply of COVID-19 diagnostics and therapeutics. We remain committed to embedding a multisectoral One Health approach and enhancing global surveillance, including genomic surveillance, in order to detect pathogens and antimicrobial resistance (AMR) that may threaten human health. To enable global pathogen surveillance as part of our commitment to implement the IHR (2005), we encourage sharing of pathogen data in a timely manner on shared and trusted platforms in collaboration with WHO. We encourage sharing of benefits arising from the utilization of pathogens consistent with applicable national laws.

23. We recognize the need for strengthening local and regional health product manufacturing capacities and cooperation as well as sustainable global and regional research and development networks to facilitate better access to VTDs globally, especially in developing countries, and underscore the importance of public-private partnership, and technology transfer and knowledge sharing on voluntary and mutually agreed terms. We support the WHO mRNA Vaccine Technology Transfer hub as well as all as the spokes in all regions of the world with the objective of sharing technology and technical know-how on voluntary and mutually agreed terms. We welcome joint research and joint production of vaccines, including enhanced cooperation among developing countries. We acknowledge the importance of shared technical standards and verification methods, under the framework of the IHR (2005), to facilitate seamless international travel, interoperability, and recognizing digital solutions and non-digital solutions, including proof of vaccinations. We support continued international dialogue and collaboration on the establishment of trusted global digital health networks as part of the efforts to strengthen prevention and response to future pandemics, that should capitalize and build on the success of the existing standards and digital COVID-19 certificates.

 

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On 1/29/2023 at 12:58 PM, Chiasalswe said:

Salam Aleycum

I wonder why Iran a few months ago made it obligatory to be vaccinated against covid to enter the country?

How can this be islamic? Forcing muslims to take a experimental jab? Who  made this decision?

:salam:

Probably you have not followes news about Iran & covid-19 which rystally clear Imam Khamenei has opposesd using any American & British made vaccines likewise Pfizer & Moderna & etc which also he ordered that only safe vaccine by approval of iranian scientists whether foreign or homegrown vaccines would be used that clearly Iran has not used mRNA vaccines which majority of vaccines likewise homegrown  Barakat vaccines have used inactivated covid-19 or other trusted technologies likewise Adenovirus or recombinant Spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 which no mRNA vaccine has been used for injecting to people  in Iran until now  which according to statistics Iran could reduce number of death due to covid-19 to under 10 even to zero for some priods of times which for mosre information you can see "Businessmen under long robes and turban" thread which @EiE has had similar mindset likewise you.

 

 

 

 

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On 1/29/2023 at 2:46 PM, Activate your inner truth said:

Iran has probably got elements working with nwo. 

I was asking myself the same thing. It could be that Iran was desperate to comply, and this was something every country was involved in pretty much.  I remember reading a blog something back about Iran (I'm still reading up to understand more) It showed how some within Iran were aligned with the nwo. If I find it I will share it here. Although I don't doubt the good and true ones of Iran. 

 

"Are they runned by globalist and masons? Some of their politiians were atending WEF like Rohani and Zarif."

 

Could it also be possible that with the way the world system of governance is at the present-sovereign countries have to have a voice in someway? Or that they are going with the program. 

It is possible that Iran has ties to the nwo but when it comes to vaccines it's and interesting thing.

At the onset of covid everybody was desperate to find a solution and took whatever was out there that had promise.
Considering the numbers attributed to covid deaths you can't blame them. Unfortunate those promises were lies and numbers were bloated.

When covid started the Chinese posted a genetic sequence code for the world to save itself. The code included mRNA and all the European and Western countries went for it.

Conspiracy theorists still say the virus has never been isolated, (proving their ignorance), but the CDC says it has been. This raises the question; Why in the Western world are the only choices mRNA, or mRNA?
No conventional inactivated vaccines have been approved as of yet in Canada or the US.

Pfizer claimed they were 90+% effective while inactivated vaccines range around 60% like a flu shot. Pfizer sounded like the best choice...and was pushed through. everything else became taboo.

Now we know Pfizer lied and the mRNA is not at all effective while the inactivated vaccines are still around 60%.

The difference; The immune system comes in contact with the actual virus though conventional vaccines, recognises the virus and learns how to protect the body from it.
The protein spike is only the landing gear. Without a virus attached it's harmless unless they are in such abundance they collect in a vein somewhere. 

It is prudent to note that China doesn't do Pfizer. 
Iran was smart enough to switch to an inactivated vaccine when it became available. An actual conventional vaccine called Sinopharm BIBP. It seems the Arab countries got Sinopharm while South of the US got Sinovac.

I haven't studied Sinopharm as much as Sinovac but they are both inactivated, conventional virus vaccines.
Sinovac did have it's problems. Peru had an outbreak of the Lambda variant which was attributed to Sinovac but in the end they learned NOT to inject the already infected. 
Last report, Sinovac was the safest and most effective in studies.

Natural immunity is still by far the most effective, you just have to catch the virus first. Catching the virus means potential spread. An actual vaccine is the best way to deal with it.

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Until very recently, the official vaccine narrative was pretty solid. Virtually every branch of the corporate media and public health establishment was on the same page, which was that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are “safe and effective”, we should all get boosted, and the “hesitant” holdouts are sub-humans who should be forced to comply.

But starting in mid-2022, an avalanche of data, videos, admissions of error, and suspicious deaths began to swamp the official story and set up what might be an epic reckoning.

What follows is a (rough and incomplete) timeline of how it all changed, beginning with the “died suddenly” meme.

Then things got real.

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Once an mRNA evangelist, Gates now dismisses the technology as inferior …...

 

https://dossier.substack.com/p/bill-gates-secured-hundreds-of-millions

“We also need to fix the three problems of [mRNA] vaccines,” Gates said in an interview with an Australian think tank. “The current vaccines are not infection blocking. They’re not broad, so when new variants come up you lose protection, and they have very short duration, particularly in the people who matter, which are old people.”

 

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How do you explain for what’s happening?

Was it a mistake?

 

Many people consider the vaccines were a mistake—that they were poorly designed due to the rush, and not very effective for the same reasons. But if this were true, why haven’t they stopped the vaccination campaigns? They have not. And it is understandable, although sinister and evil, for the vaccine makers and pushers to pretend no mistake was made and to act as if there was no problem with them. They still could stop pushing to get people vaccinated without copping to any “mistake” they may have made. But they haven’t. They are going just as strong, if not stronger, to coerce people and children to get the jab.

 

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16 hours ago, justAnothermuslim said:

How do you explain for what’s happening?

The article you referred to says:

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Many people believe this is all a money grab. 

i.e. from Big Pharma.

And at the end we have:

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Do the risks of the Pfizer vaccine outweigh the benefits?

You can ask the consensus.app yes/no type questions and it comes up with published scientific research that has answered the question.

It tells you about the quality/nature of the research it has found.

Going by the articles titles below - the Pfizer vaccine seems to be ok.

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Survey: Every fourth German had serious vaccination side effects

Of 1,700 participants, over 52 percent reported experiencing side effects, with more than 23 percent experiencing severe symptoms.

Young people under the age of 40 in particular frequently reported severe side effects. (36.6 percent of 18-29 year olds, 39.1 percent of 30-39 year olds).

The proportion of vaccination side effects decreases with increasing age. Apprentices and students were affected more often than employed and retired people. Interestingly, Muslims (79.8 percent) and free church Christians (71.2 percent) reported side effects more often than Catholics (55.2 percent) and Protestant Christians (51.7 percent).

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The fiercest vaccine advocates are starting to admit the truth about the mRNAs

I am shocked as you are.

Mandavilli also talked to Dr. Paul Offit. No one will ever confuse Offit with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - he is director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia.

In April 2021, Offit had this to say about the mRNA jabs:

Certainly, no one would have predicted that these mRNA vaccines would have worked as well or been as safe as they are… I don’t think you could have devised a vaccine that appears to be more perfect.

Less than two years later, Offit rejected more doses of those “perfect” vaccines.

For everyone. Even the immunocompromised.

But even more stunning than Offit’s rejection were the words he used:

“Given the lack of data, I don’t think it’s fair to say to people, ‘Inject yourself with a biological agent,’” said Dr. Paul Offit.

Vaccine advocates strenuously avoid this kind of language, for obvious reasons.

Inject yourself with a biological agent? Yeah, I’ll pass.

But the failure of the mRNAs is now so obvious that Offit and his fellow vaccine advocates have no choice but to try to ring-fence it if they want to save other jabs.


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15 hours ago, justAnothermuslim said:

Survey: Every fourth German had serious vaccination side effects

Of 1,700 participants, over 52 percent reported experiencing side effects, with more than 23 percent experiencing severe symptoms.

Young people under the age of 40 in particular frequently reported severe side effects. (36.6 percent of 18-29 year olds, 39.1 percent of 30-39 year olds).

The proportion of vaccination side effects decreases with increasing age. Apprentices and students were affected more often than employed and retired people. Interestingly, Muslims (79.8 percent) and free church Christians (71.2 percent) reported side effects more often than Catholics (55.2 percent) and Protestant Christians (51.7 percent).

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Eudravigilance is the European adverse events database for all medications and injections both human and veterinarian. The database is massive. It includes 32 countries and a population around 750 million. 
When I first found the site only some 300,000 reports of hospitalizations were recorded from the four main jabs.
Hospitalizations are not deaths, nor life injuries but everyone concerned enough to go to a hospital.
That was Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, and J&J.
As of today they have reports on 11 jabs. 
The original Pfizer jab was responsible for over 1.2 million reports, 69.8% women. 
Booster 1 is 5,500 so far, 72.5% women.
Booster 2 is 7,424 so far, 62.8% women.
Moderna original, 372,371 reports, 68.7% women.
Booster 1 is 7,488 reports so far, 66.5% women.
Booster 2 is at only 417 reports and only 49.2% women. (Almost sounds safe).
Novavax is at 1,595 reports, 70.2% women.

We're talking about 1.6 million people effected by some level of injury out of 750 million people. I don't have all the numbers, as in % of people vaxxed but we're looking somewhere around 1 in 5 people effected. 

https://www.adrreports.eu/en/search_subst.html#

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3 hours ago, Son of Placid said:

Eudravigilance is the European adverse events database for all medications and injections both human and veterinarian. The database is massive. It includes 32 countries and a population around 750 million. 
When I first found the site only some 300,000 reports of hospitalizations were recorded from the four main jabs.
Hospitalizations are not deaths, nor life injuries but everyone concerned enough to go to a hospital.
That was Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, and J&J.
As of today they have reports on 11 jabs. 
The original Pfizer jab was responsible for over 1.2 million reports, 69.8% women. 
Booster 1 is 5,500 so far, 72.5% women.
Booster 2 is 7,424 so far, 62.8% women.
Moderna original, 372,371 reports, 68.7% women.
Booster 1 is 7,488 reports so far, 66.5% women.
Booster 2 is at only 417 reports and only 49.2% women. (Almost sounds safe).
Novavax is at 1,595 reports, 70.2% women.

We're talking about 1.6 million people effected by some level of injury out of 750 million people. I don't have all the numbers, as in % of people vaxxed but we're looking somewhere around 1 in 5 people effected. 

https://www.adrreports.eu/en/search_subst.html#

Salaam brother, interesting women have such high rates. Woman are also the most susceptible to autoimmune diseases which could be linked to estrogen changes, especially during perimenopause..viruses themselves are known to trigger autoimmune diseases so wouldn't be surprised if the vxs had similar effects.

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21 hours ago, PureExistence1 said:

Salaam brother, interesting women have such high rates. Woman are also the most susceptible to autoimmune diseases which could be linked to estrogen changes, especially during perimenopause..viruses themselves are known to trigger autoimmune diseases so wouldn't be surprised if the vxs had similar effects.

The problem is; We all know somewhat about vaccines. Conventional vaccines are made with the actual virus, inactivated by one means or another. Your immune system sees the actual virus and creates antibodies and stores the recipe to make more if required.
In the case of the vaxx, it is only replicating spikes, there's no actual virus for your immune system to recognize. Your immune system hands it off to the blood stream for elimination. If too many spikes reach a bottleneck in the blood stream, you've got a clot or inflammation problem. As we have seen, while most of the spikes are eliminated through human means, the spike is also dispersed everywhere in the human body.
If the actual virus enters the body the immune system recognizes the spikes and begins handing them off to the blood stream before recognizing the virus. By then you are already sick.
The first jab was all about the Alpha spike. The first mutation in a virus is the spike, therefore does not recognize Delta, nor Omicron. There were no "breakthrough" infections, the virus simply mutated. The boosters are made with variant spikes but still contain no actual virus.
The safest and most effective vaccine on record thus far is the Sinovac vaccine. It's a conventional inactivated virus vaccine. It is available in many parts of the world, except NATO countries. We have a choice of mRNA or mRNA.
 

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Salaam and thanks for all the info.

I have a question I've asked elsewhere and have yet yo get an answer. Im not a scientist in this subject so the question maybe stupid, but...

Does anyone know if a persons immune system can recognize and mount a response to naturally acquired covid once the viral particles are inhaled but without the person actually becoming "infected" with the virus?

Thanks for your thoughts on this matter!

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The success of covid jab means new jabs soon for other disease areas

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Millions of lives could be saved by a groundbreaking set of new vaccines for a range of conditions including cancer, experts have said. A leading pharmaceutical firm said it is confident that jabs for cancer, cardiovascular and autoimmune diseases, and other conditions will be ready by 2030.

Studies into these vaccinations are also showing “tremendous promise”, with some researchers saying 15 years’ worth of progress has been “unspooled” in 12 to 18 months thanks to the success of the Covid jab.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/apr/07/cancer-and-heart-disease-vaccines-ready-by-end-of-the-decade

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18 hours ago, Son of Placid said:

It is available in many parts of the world, except NATO countries. We have a choice of mRNA or mRNA.

You know you can just travel to China and get it? Perhaps combine with some sightseeing?

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On 4/8/2023 at 6:01 AM, Haji 2003 said:

You know you can just travel to China and get it? Perhaps combine with some sightseeing?

I could get it in Mexico but it's not approved here so it would be a no jab jab. With all the opportunities I've had to catch this virus I haven't. At least I don't think so. I had a week of nasal annoyance which probably would have caused a positive test like it did for my daughter's nasal infection. Poor kid suffered a week before her doc would even see her. 
Nasal infections do not get better when isolating.

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On 4/7/2023 at 1:51 PM, PureExistence1 said:

Salaam and thanks for all the info.

I have a question I've asked elsewhere and have yet yo get an answer. Im not a scientist in this subject so the question maybe stupid, but...

Does anyone know if a persons immune system can recognize and mount a response to naturally acquired covid once the viral particles are inhaled but without the person actually becoming "infected" with the virus?

Thanks for your thoughts on this matter!



It's not a stupid question but it does address one of the dumbest lies we were led to believe.
It's what they called asymptomatic.
If your immune system is young it has the ability to recognize and stop covid in it's tracks. That's why kids aren't effected on the grand scale. If your immune system is old, and has had any level of previous exposure, (some doctors were saying a previous common cold, aka Rhinovirus), your immune system recognizes it's danger and inactivates it.

It's actually a long study with many large words but short of it says; the spike has to be able to attach itself before it can establish itself and start replicating. If the immune system recognizes the danger it rejects any form of attachment, is coated in mucus and digested.

It was all the panic but...
How can an asymptomatic spread the virus if the virus is readily inactivated and has no means of replicating? 
The simple answer is, there's nothing to spread.
The reason they called an asymptomatic a "super spreader" was to keep everyone afraid of everyone.

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On 4/9/2023 at 10:01 AM, Son of Placid said:



It's not a stupid question but it does address one of the dumbest lies we were led to believe.
It's what they called asymptomatic.
If your immune system is young it has the ability to recognize and stop covid in it's tracks. That's why kids aren't effected on the grand scale. If your immune system is old, and has had any level of previous exposure, (some doctors were saying a previous common cold, aka Rhinovirus), your immune system recognizes it's danger and inactivates it.

It's actually a long study with many large words but short of it says; the spike has to be able to attach itself before it can establish itself and start replicating. If the immune system recognizes the danger it rejects any form of attachment, is coated in mucus and digested.

It was all the panic but...
How can an asymptomatic spread the virus if the virus is readily inactivated and has no means of replicating? 
The simple answer is, there's nothing to spread.
The reason they called an asymptomatic a "super spreader" was to keep everyone afraid of everyone.

Thanks for your reply..i had to read it many times to make sure i got your point.

So in the case of someone who had covid, say, a year ago, their system SHOULD recognize it if they inhale the viral particles in a subsequent exposure and be able to "wrap things up" and be gotten rid of...

So, my next question is, during this second exposure where the immune system recognizes it and wraps it in mucus and excretes it, does the immune system make any antibodies or does that only occur if there is in fact an "infection" where adsorption/attachment into the cell has taken place?

Thanks again!

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