Viruses & Vaccinations

[justAnothermuslim]

 

From The Telegraph.

Hundreds more people than usual are dying each week in England and Wales with Covid not to blame for the majority of deaths, new figures show.

Latest data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show there were 1,540 excess deaths in the week ending June 24 but only around 10 per cent were due to coronavirus.

What could be driving these excess deaths?

Health experts have called for an urgent investigation into what is behind the excess mortality, with fears that the pandemic response, lack of access to healthcare and even the cost of living crisis, may be to blame.

Is climate change one of the contributing factors?

 

You may read the entirety of the article here.

[Hasani Samnani]

On 7/11/2022 at 3:56 AM, justAnothermuslim said:

 

 I know in people with healthy immune system, their B and T cells will react appropriately when those cells which have taken-up mRNA start expressing spike proteins on their surfaces.

How do the immunocompromised people (children included) benefit when their immune system cannot mount a strong response to the spike protein produced?

 

 

This is an excellent question brother. The majority of physicians think that since those individuals,  adults or children,  have compromised immunity they should be given vaccines since this could potentially hyper charge their laggard immune response. However,  this is theoretical supposition without strong data to back up this recommendation,  but based on precautionary proactive thinking.

Other physicians,  a minority,  think that since they are immune compromised they should not get vaccinated and modify environment into a bubble boy like paradigm, ( up votes for Seinfeld reference) , and keep masked with proper tight fitted respirators, should avoid potentially infected people, hand wash often, take immune boosting supplements eg Vit D, Vit C, Zinc, Mg, etc This the ounce of prevention group, also with some retrospective data that this method works,  but again evidence is not strong with them either.

[Son of Placid]

On 7/10/2022 at 5:59 PM, justAnothermuslim said:

What could be driving these excess deaths?

In Alberta they are calling the highest leader in deaths, "unknown". Until 2021 the leading cause was dementia, followed by covid, followed by comorbidities. Considering their reporting is skewed it's hard to know how many comorbidities were given over to covid. 

In the mean time, current hospitalization numbers for covid continue. 50.5% are 3 dose, 27% are two dose.

[Hasani Samnani]

On 7/11/2022 at 3:56 AM, justAnothermuslim said:

 

 I know in people with healthy immune system, their B and T cells will react appropriately when those cells which have taken-up mRNA start expressing spike proteins on their surfaces.

How do the immunocompromised people (children included) benefit when their immune system cannot mount a strong response to the spike protein produced?

 

 

Excellent Question bro.

There are two major schools of thought regarding immune compromised individuals and  Covid, and for that matter vaccines in general.

The majority of the medical community encourages vaccines in these individuals since it is a proactive approach.  There is theoretical possibility given the immune system hyper charging adjuvants found in vaccines,  the immunocompromised will be able to mount an adequate immune response , either cellular or humoral immunity. There is limited data but most major medical organizations recommend this approach, especially if the risk benefit ratio for a potentially deadly is factored.

The other school of thought is to focus on prevention and preventive strategies and avoid vaccination, because the theoretical risk for an immunocompromised individual is that they can't mount immune response and now potential pathological effect from the hyper charging adjuvants could occur. They belive that such individuals should act like the infamous bubble boy ( up votes for Seinfeld reference).  They should mask up with a tight fitting respirator type mask, hand wash often, avoid potentially infected individuals and situations where exposure risk is high, immune system supplementation with Vit D, Vit C, Zinc, Mg etc and basically quarantine themselves. This approach is the ounce of prevention....etc  school. Again very limited retrospective evidence for this approach.

[justAnothermuslim]

5 hours ago, Hasani Samnani said:

This is an excellent question brother. The majority of physicians think that since those individuals,  adults or children,  have compromised immunity they should be given vaccines since this could potentially hyper charge their laggard immune response. However,  this is theoretical supposition without strong data to back up this recommendation,  but based on precautionary proactive thinking.

Other physicians,  a minority,  think that since they are immune compromised they should not get vaccinated and modify environment into a bubble boy like paradigm, ( up votes for Seinfeld reference) , and keep masked with proper tight fitted respirators, should avoid potentially infected people, hand wash often, take immune boosting supplements eg Vit D, Vit C, Zinc, Mg, etc This the ounce of prevention group, also with some retrospective data that this method works,  but again evidence is not strong with them either.

 

 

Honestly, the credit should go to Why don’t vaccines work as well on immunocompromised people?

 

Dr. Serpian is saying in general, vaccine is less effective for immunocompromised people while at the same time, he’s advocating them to take boosters.

While I can understand this with regard to conventional vaccines but with mRNA vaccines, it surely got me into thinking: what’s going on here?

Anyway, I agree with you.

People always differ except for a few.

 

[justAnothermuslim]

5 hours ago, Son of Placid said:

In Alberta they are calling the highest leader in deaths, "unknown".

 

I believe, it’s happening everywhere but mostly remain unreported.

Maybe Africa is the only exception.

 

[justAnothermuslim]

 

“Let me be clear: if you get vaccinated today, you’re not going to be ineligible to get the variants-specific vaccine, as we get into the later part of fall and winter,” Jha said. “So, this is not a trade-off. We’ve got plenty. It’s a great way to protect yourself.”

Source

 

 

[justAnothermuslim]

 

Joseph Goebbels, infamously exclaimed, “If you tell a lie big enough, and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”

Well, Goebbels may have been a psychopath, but he wasn’t stupid. We have seen his proclamation prove true again and again.

 

No one would tell a lie that big. Right?

[Son of Placid]

On 7/12/2022 at 4:08 PM, justAnothermuslim said:

No one would tell a lie that big. Right?

Who could possibly construct such a big lie that would not only have nations go to great lengths at great expense to deceive their own children but continue and encourage it as tradition? How do they get people to buy in to the idea that lying is okay, call it harmless. The harm in the deception is the distraction from the truth.
Would our world leaders actually do that?
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/24/politics/joe-biden-christmas-santa-norad/index.html

 

[Hasani Samnani]

On 7/11/2022 at 3:59 AM, justAnothermuslim said:

 

From The Telegraph.

Hundreds more people than usual are dying each week in England and Wales with Covid not to blame for the majority of deaths, new figures show.

Latest data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show there were 1,540 excess deaths in the week ending June 24 but only around 10 per cent were due to coronavirus.

What could be driving these excess deaths?

Health experts have called for an urgent investigation into what is behind the excess mortality, with fears that the pandemic response, lack of access to healthcare and even the cost of living crisis, may be to blame.

Is climate change one of the contributing factors?

 

You may read the entirety of the article here.

 

I think we have an answer to higher death rates.

mRNA Vaccine May not help reduce hospitalization and ICU admission rates, in fact the opposite has occurred, the vaccinated showed higher hospitalization and intensive care admissions.

The mRNA shots can not stop infection, transmission or injury but the last hope is that they can stop long term serious illness.  Data, however, from the Dutch government show the mRNA Covid shots do not offer long term protection from serious illness.  After seven months, they substantially RAISE the risk of hospitalization and intensive care.

Dutch Govt sponsored study shows that there is no real protection against hospitalization and ICU admission via mRNA vaccines, In a newly released peer reviewed study. Sorry it's in Dutch,  but can use online translator.

Dutch Study (Effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccination against hospital and intensive care admission in the Netherlands (Mar. 15- June 28, 2022)-In the period 15 March – 28 June 2022, little or no effectiveness of the intial vaccination series is evident. 

https://www.rivm.nl/documenten/effectiviteit-van-covid-19-vaccinatie-tegen-ziekenhuis-en-intensive-care-opname-in-14

[guess]

On 7/27/2022 at 1:45 AM, Hasani Samnani said:

Data, however, from the Dutch government show the mRNA Covid shots do not offer long term protection from serious illness.  After seven months, they substantially RAISE the risk of hospitalization and intensive care.

If peer reviewed govt sponsored Data shows this increased risk after  vaccination, what does that mean for those of us forced to get vaccination with mRNA for our jobs, or to travel for work?

What's the long term side effects and why do they keep pushing these short-term helpful but long term reversal of protection?

Why keep pushing boosters, I'm afraid I don't really understand the science behind the government mandates...???

[justAnothermuslim]

 

Also on tap this week: During a White House briefing on the new COVID-19 bivalent booster shots, Dr. Ashish Jha, Biden’s COVID-19 response coordinator, urged Americans to get a flu shot and a COVID-19 shot at the same time, claiming that’s why “God gave us two arms.”

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[Son of Placid]

On 7/31/2022 at 6:49 PM, guess said:

If peer reviewed govt sponsored Data shows this increased risk after  vaccination, what does that mean for those of us forced to get vaccination with mRNA for our jobs, or to travel for work?

What's the long term side effects and why do they keep pushing these short-term helpful but long term reversal of protection?

Why keep pushing boosters, I'm afraid I don't really understand the science behind the government mandates...???

Science?
Money, money, and more money. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Trudeau has been pushing hard the shots and boosters. Come to find out he has a financial interest. There's no question these shots have made the rich richer and the poor sicker. Everything is geared to make the vaccine look safe. Any negative stats disappear.
 

I've been watching the Alberta stats on hospitalizations. June was the last month for; Hospitalizations by vaccination status before it was removed from the website. The problem, highest number was no longer the unvaxxed.

According to the European AE database, (Eudravigilance), over 1.1 million people have been hospitalized by Pfizer alone out of the 3.4M, (old number now), reports. More alarming is 70% is female with predominantly reproductive issues. 
The database is massive and pulling numbers on any one issue takes a lot of time. I haven't had the time to recount but in the spring I did count 7800+ spontaneous abortions.
These are the numbers as of today.

The CDC has announced that the unvaccinated are now humans again but Canada has not.

Canadians returning to Canada have to DL the ArriveCan tracking app. Failure to do so results in a $6200. ticket. The unvaccinated also have to have a negative test prior to boarding and quarantine for 14 days after. They are also given two tests to be done the next day and 8 days later. The covid police will also visit unannounced to make sure you're following the MANDATORY quarantine regs. 
From those who have told their story about reentry to Canada, nobody ever asks about your health.

[justAnothermuslim]

On 8/1/2022 at 8:49 AM, guess said:

I'm afraid I don't really understand the science behind the government mandates...???

 

Do your own research bro and come to your own conclusion.

Here’s a view from the other side of the coin.

Turtles All the Way Down

The page on Amazon contains an excellent summary of the contents and many editorial reviews.

[justAnothermuslim]

 

If this is indeed an accurate description of what’s happening, are we, wittingly or unwittingly, put ourselves in harm’s way?

Do you think we’re mixing our iman with zulm when we mock those who have not taken it?

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You were instructed to stay at home to protect the healthcare system. But while you did so, hospitals essentially had a holiday, and this is backed up by official data.

You were told the answer to everyone’s prayers was to get the Covid-19 injection. But now that you have done so, the healthcare system is on the brink of collapse.

Waiting times for ambulances are at an all-time high. The number of emergency calls due to people suffering cardiac arrest is at an all-time high. The number of people dying is at an all-time high, with hundreds of thousands of excess deaths occurring around the world every single week.

[Ahmad Sabour]

The whole thing was a fraud anyway

[justAnothermuslim]

 

Tallahassee, Fla. — Today, State Surgeon General Dr. Joseph A. Ladapo has announced new guidance regarding mRNA vaccines. The Florida Department of Health (Department) conducted an analysis through a self-controlled case series, which is a technique originally developed to evaluate vaccine safety.

This analysis found that there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination. With a high level of global immunity to COVID-19, the benefit of vaccination is likely outweighed by this abnormally high risk of cardiac-related death among men in this age group. Non-mRNA vaccines were not found to have these increased risks.

As such, the State Surgeon General recommends against males aged 18 to 39 from receiving mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.

Source

[justAnothermuslim]

 

“‘If you don’t get vaccinated, you’re anti-social!’ This is what the Dutch prime minister and health minister told us,” Roos said in a video presentation about the revelation, which includes video footage of Small admitting that Pfizer never even once tested covid jabs for stopping transmission – watch below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtgQWCA8s6o&t=2s

Source

[Son of Placid]

16 hours ago, justAnothermuslim said:

 

“‘If you don’t get vaccinated, you’re anti-social!’ This is what the Dutch prime minister and health minister told us,” Roos said in a video presentation about the revelation, which includes video footage of Small admitting that Pfizer never even once tested covid jabs for stopping transmission – watch below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtgQWCA8s6o&t=2s

Source

 

It's all a coincidence. Right now the highest death rate in Alberta is "unknown causes".
Alberta stats used to include "hospitalization by vaccine status" but when the triple vaxxed became a higher number than the unvaxxed, (June 2022), they stopped reporting it. 

[justAnothermuslim]

On 10/13/2022 at 11:19 PM, Son of Placid said:

It's all a coincidence. Right now the highest death rate in Alberta is "unknown causes".
Alberta stats used to include "hospitalization by vaccine status" but when the triple vaxxed became a higher number than the unvaxxed, (June 2022), they stopped reporting it. 

 

Down here if I’m not mistaken, they call it SADS. Maybe this article can take the mystery out of it.

 

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The disaster unfolding before our eyes could be, and was [24], predicted from first principles of immunology. The ability to distinguish between self and non-self is fundamental to life. It is already present at birth and ends only at death. It cannot be manipulated or controlled. Any attempt to do so with mRNA or other gene-based vaccines is doomed to failure.

 

[justAnothermuslim]

On 10/13/2022 at 6:26 AM, justAnothermuslim said:

 

Tallahassee, Fla. — Today, State Surgeon General Dr. Joseph A. Ladapo has announced new guidance regarding mRNA vaccines. The Florida Department of Health (Department) conducted an analysis through a self-controlled case series, which is a technique originally developed to evaluate vaccine safety.

This analysis found that there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination. With a high level of global immunity to COVID-19, the benefit of vaccination is likely outweighed by this abnormally high risk of cardiac-related death among men in this age group. Non-mRNA vaccines were not found to have these increased risks.

As such, the State Surgeon General recommends against males aged 18 to 39 from receiving mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.

Source

 

 

There are 50 states; why is your state the only one telling us this?

His answer? I think frankly it’s because we are the only ones who asked the question.

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The LA Times said his study showing the vaccines were harmful was unscientific and flawed and claimed the rates of myocarditis caused by COVID are higher than those from the vaccine.

[Hasani Samnani]

New Swiss study proves damage to heart in every mRNA vaccine recipient. 

Now granted small rise in tropinins is often insignificant symptomatically, but there is measurable damage.

1 in 27 get significant damage, sadly. 

 

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/swiss-study-shows-heart-injury-in-all-mrna-covid-jab-recipients-myocarditis-in-3/

Edited November 3, 2022 by Hasani Samnani

[PureExistence1]

Salaam @Hasani Samnani

Do you happen to know if iran has a VAERS system? Just curious if the side effects are any different for Baraka as opposed to all the others.

 

[justAnothermuslim]

Why Are Seemingly Normal, Healthy People Dropping Dead?

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[313_Waiter]

3 hours ago, justAnothermuslim said:

Why Are Seemingly Normal, Healthy People Dropping Dead?

Source

Is it because of the vacc1ne? Why no mainstream media reporting on this?

[PureExistence1]

1 hour ago, 313_Waiter said:

Is it because of the vacc1ne? Why no mainstream media reporting on this?

Salaam,

Look at what passed in california, usa...

https://californiaacep.org/news/618676/Newsom-signs-bill-to-police-California-doctors-on-COVID-19-misinformation.htm

So who decides what is considered misinformation? 

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 11/4/2022 at 1:05 AM, PureExistence1 said:

Salaam @Hasani Samnani

Do you happen to know if iran has a VAERS system? Just curious if the side effects are any different for Baraka as opposed to all the others.

 

Salam It's company has announced a 7/24 hotline for reporting side effects of "COVIran Barekat" vaccine as 021-89990000  (021 is internal code of Tehran ,Iran) which no serious side effect has reported until now which also although of all efforts of anti Iran media so then they couldn't found a negative report about it which until now these anti Iran channels have not reported any side effects of it which only for one time they have spread a rumor about death of a wellknown old actor of cinema & series due to using "COVIran Barekat" which at end of the day it's exposed that he has used Astrazeneca's vaccine which has caused his heart attack so then his death.

سامانه تلفنی ثبت عوارض احتمالی واکسن برکت راه اندازی شد

The phone system for registering possible side effects of the Barekat vaccine was launched

https://bpharmed.com/1401/02/29/سامانه-تلفنی-ثبت-عوارض-احتمالی-واکسن-ب/

Exporting "COVIran Barekat" vaccine to  backyard of USA /Promotion of health cooperation with Venezuela

https://bpharmed.com/1401/04/09/صادرات-واکسن-کوو-ایران-برکت-به-حیاط-خلو/

The shipment of Coviran Barkat vaccine was officially delivered to Nicaragua

https://bpharmed.com/1401/04/03/محموله-واکسن-کوویران-برکت-رسماً-تحویل/

 

[313_Waiter]

22 hours ago, PureExistence1 said:

Salaam,

Look at what passed in california, usa...

https://californiaacep.org/news/618676/Newsom-signs-bill-to-police-California-doctors-on-COVID-19-misinformation.htm

So who decides what is considered misinformation? 

Wsalam,

Wow. That’s rather unfortunate but expected.

since when was science supposed to be monopolised.

[justAnothermuslim]

On 11/9/2022 at 10:22 AM, 313_Waiter said:

Is it because of the vacc1ne? Why no mainstream media reporting on this?

Not sure bro, like i'm sure 2 + 2 = 4.

[Hameedeh]

23 hours ago, PureExistence1 said:

https://californiaacep.org/news/618676/Newsom-signs-bill-to-police-California-doctors-on-COVID-19-misinformation.htm

California: Docs may be disciplined for spreading COVID lies

September 30, 2022

...the Federation of State Medical Boards has warned that physicians who spread misinformation or disinformation “risk losing their medical license, and ... have a duty to provide their patients with accurate, science-based information.”

https://apnews.com/article/health-business-california-covid-gavin-newsom-95397f4783a19b6fb35d2c46ac6f872e

[PureExistence1]

Salaam sister:)

There was a time not that long ago when a dr was allowed to do "ijtehad" of how they would treat a patient based on their education and other knowledge they have. There wasnt an issue with a dr exercising ijtehad til covid. Why is it that alternatives are not allowed?

People want alternatives for different reasons. If a person makes a choice to go with what their dr prescribes as an alternative treatment to the more broadly used ones, why is that wrong? 

Why cant a sovereign, autonomous, rational minded adult choose to trust their doctor who has graduated medical school, gotten his/her medical license and maybe some other qualifying education behind them? 

Making laws like this one are whats going to cause people to go out and try weird unsafe things as there wont be a safe and legal route they can take.l to try alternatives.

Its getting harder and harder to talk about whats going on for fear of some sort of reprisal. Loss of freedom of speech. Oh wait, we still have it, as long as its not used regarding certain people places or things. What freedom is that? Even yazeed and muawiyah allowed people who agreed with them to say whatever they wanted-.-

Sorry, this isnt meant to you personally sister. I kinda just started venting ): 

[313_Waiter]

On 11/9/2022 at 9:06 PM, Hameedeh said:

California: Docs may be disciplined for spreading COVID lies

September 30, 2022

...the Federation of State Medical Boards has warned that physicians who spread misinformation or disinformation “risk losing their medical license, and ... have a duty to provide their patients with accurate, science-based information.”

https://apnews.com/article/health-business-california-covid-gavin-newsom-95397f4783a19b6fb35d2c46ac6f872e

Salaam sister,

What this means is that the government is deciding what is misinformation. A medical professional with a contrarian POV is not allowed. This sounds rather hypocritical of a society that seems itself “free” and allowing “freedom of expression”.

[justAnothermuslim]

On 11/9/2022 at 7:22 AM, justAnothermuslim said:

Why Are Seemingly Normal, Healthy People Dropping Dead?

Source

I did a search and found this explanation but we need to verify its’ veracity

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He said that as a cardiologist and scientist, he doesn’t want to scare the public.

"But I think this is more of a public warning," he said. "We’re seeing a strong signal for sudden death that's almost certainly due to subclinical or clinical myocarditis."

The two patterns of "sudden death," he said, are that it typically occurs during a cardio-intensive sporting event or during sleep.

In both cases, there’s a surge of adrenaline, of cortisol, that helps the body naturally during these periods, and that seems to be a trigger for the arrhythmias."

He explained that the natural biochemical change toward the end of the sleep cycle signals the body to wake up. And, similarly, these hormones produced by the adrenal glands, catecholamines, are released in response to physical exertion or emotional stress. They can stress the heart and cause it to beat arrhythmically. And if there is inflammation and scarring, the mechanism can lead to death.

"We’re left with what is the smoking gun?

 

[justAnothermuslim]

On one hand, CCD is recommending people to stay up to date with c19 vaccines, including bivalent booster.

On the other hand, NIH has published an article “Covid-19 Update: What is the Truth?”, saying c19 vaccines are deadly.

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While most researchers, virologists, infectious disease researchers and epidemiologists have been intimidated into silence, a growing number of high integrity individuals with tremendous expertise have come forward to tell the truth—that is, that these vaccines are deadly.

So what’s happening here?

Are we in an enormous trial from our Lord?

[Laayla]

Bismehe Ta3ala 

Assalam Alikum 

It's very sad to have seen the propaganda here on SC, members encouraging the vaccine.

I hope they didn't end up giving the jab to their children.

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN ALLAH