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5 hours ago, justAnothermuslim said:

I find this article very troubling.

The first sentence of the above article says this:

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Readers of the D4CE website will be familiar with the atrocious safety record of the mRNA COVID vaccines produced by Pfizer and Moderna [1].

So you go to citation number one and what is it?

It's a blog post.

 

5 hours ago, justAnothermuslim said:

It describes how the mRNA vaccine works and how the body immune system responds to it.

Any thoughts on it?

Do you understand what they are saying?

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On 2/2/2022 at 8:11 AM, Berber-Shia said:

Some interesting material there, but also a great deal of supposition.

Take this:

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Some possible questions to be considered: Where did this virus come from? Is it a bioweapon? Is it being used for geo-political ends? Is it as deadly as their models say? Is there a solution at hand? What is the best way forward?

Quite frankly these are second order questions. The first order questions are to do with the health impact of the virus and what you can do to avoid it.

Whether or not the virus is being used for geo-political ends is a non-starter if you are already dead because you did not take precautions.

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 He told Muslims not to trust the global elite, do rigorous investigations, and come up with our own response while relying on Allah’s assistance.

This is one of the more sensible pieces in the article. What does 'rigorous research' mean? I am not sure it means this:

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Dr. Barrett has been exploring the possible geo-political underpinnings of COVID in his False Flag Weekly News podcasts for two years and also held a COVID origins webinar in May 2020.

I do think it means looking at different countries (and states within the US) responses to Covid and why they did what they did.

What are the lessons?

Rightwing leaders who appear to care little about their populations, did very little indeed and focused on the mantra of freedom. More socially minded leaders put health above money imposed lockdowns, social distancing and so on.

In fact Iran is a very good example of a country that is disconnected from global Pharma, the international banking system etc. and whose policies have been fairly orthodox when it comes to dealing with the virus.

Iran has not gone for the ivermectin route or any of the other Trump promoted remedies.

Iran has gone for vaccines and so has Cuba (the two countries have collaborated on one vaccine). Cuba is also not part of the global capitalist system.

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From the national news: Two months ago the US had 800,000+ deaths from Covid-19. Today it has surpassed 900,000+. Get vaccinated. 

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On 2/4/2022 at 1:41 AM, Haji 2003 said:

The first sentence of the above article says this:

So you go to citation number one and what is it?

It's a blog post.

 

Do you understand what they are saying?

No doubt my understanding could be flawed. Thus the reason for asking “Any thoughts on it?”

Do enlighten me your take on it.

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This is a new email from The Imam Mahdi Association of Marjaeya (I.M.A.M.). 

PSA: Free At-Home COVID-19 Test Kits

February 7, 2022

Dear Believers in the United States,

Peace be upon you.

Almighty God says, “O you who have faith! Save yourselves and your families…” [Holy Quran, 66:6]

Prevention is a rational principle that religion calls for and invites people to adhere to for the purpose of ensuring safety, especially with respect to health. Reason dictates that prevention is better than cure.

The initiative announced by the United States Postal Service to deliver Covid-19 testing kits to homes for free is a kind initiative and deserves appreciation, for it aims to prevent and thus reduce the spread of the virus. When a person knows that they are infected, they quarantine and prevent the spread of the virus. This will certainly be in the interest of society and public safety. God Almighty will reward all those who respect the rights of others.

So in case you missed it, to learn more about how to get your free kit mailed to your home at no cost,

https://imam-us.org/psa-free-at-home-covid-19-test-kits

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Question  Does adding ivermectin, an inexpensive and widely available antiparasitic drug, to the standard of care reduce the risk of severe disease in patients with COVID-19 and comorbidities?

Findings  In this open-label randomized clinical trial of high-risk patients with COVID-19 in Malaysia, a 5-day course of oral ivermectin administered during the first week of illness did not reduce the risk of developing severe disease compared with standard of care alone.

Meaning  The study findings do not support the use of ivermectin for patients with COVID-19.

 

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2789362?guestAccessKey=58760460-df0f-4790-9257-8f3682dca39b&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=021822

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Ivermectin study results released

 

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Treatment with ivermectin did not result in a lower incidence of medical admission to a hospital due to progression of Covid-19 or of prolonged emergency department observation among outpatients with an early diagnosis of Covid-19. (Funded by FastGrants and the Rainwater Charitable Foundation; TOGETHER ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT04727424

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115869

 

This was the method:

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We conducted a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled, adaptive platform trial involving symptomatic SARS-CoV-2–positive adults recruited from 12 public health clinics in Brazil. Patients who had had symptoms of Covid-19 for up to 7 days and had at least one risk factor for disease progression were randomly assigned to receive ivermectin (400 μg per kilogram of body weight) once daily for 3 days or placebo. (The trial also involved other interventions that are not reported here.) The primary composite outcome was hospitalization due to Covid-19 within 28 days after randomization or an emergency department visit due to clinical worsening of Covid-19 (defined as the participant remaining under observation for >6 hours) within 28 days after randomization.

 

The study has 3515 participants.

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On 4/3/2022 at 12:35 AM, Haji 2003 said:

Ivermectin study results released

 

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115869

 

This was the method:

 

The study has 3515 participants.

NCT04727424 is an all inclusive study. Won't be concluded until next year. 

400 μg is about double the normal prescribed dose for it's original purpose. 


Milken Institute is tracking 332 treatments. Some have proven to be ineffective and trials have died, all others have been postponed until at least next year.
CPI-006 has been studied in 91 locations in more than a dozen US states, and a dozen countries, since Feb 2021. Managed to make phase III. Time frame, 28 days, Still no results.
May 31st 2021 was a completion date for many of the treatments postponed.

LY-COV555 Trial started Oct 2020. So far they've found out it works in monkeys. 

A tremendously time consuming site. https://covid-19tracker.milkeninstitute.org/

 

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On 2/20/2022 at 4:13 AM, Haji 2003 said:

If only the primary outcome of the study was to measure the effectiveness of Ivermectin (IVM) in saving the patients' lives, i would say the study was a resounding success: the deaths among IVM group was 3X less than the deaths in the Control group.

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Find me one patient who wouldn’t take any of the above odds while ill in a hospital with COVID with a drug as ridiculously safe as ivermectin. My god. Find me one patient who would worry about developing a need for oxygen more than developing a condition called death.

 

https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/the-disinformation-campaign-against?utm_source=url&s=r

 

 

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It’s Time To Prosecute the Lie About Mandates?

There is a grave misconception that restrictions are ending because they did their job. After two long years, we finally coerced enough jabs, masked enough people, and closed enough businesses that the science is granting us a reprieve.

But if the science deserves any credit, it’s only because our leaders have stopped holding it hostage.

The end of mandates comes as we retake logic, finally realizing in sufficient numbers that the safety measures meant to help us only gave us harm.

But it is not enough to call a truce with failed COVID policy, which wanted permanent damage for society. Until we prosecute its malfeasance in the court of public opinion, another promised “new normal” is liable to come back either with renewed vigor or in another form.

Between lockdowns that couldn’t stop spread, nonsensical masking and distancing rules that ignored the physics of aerosols, and vaccine mandates that were blind to natural immunity, none of our COVID safety rituals — nor all of them combined — were ever worth the cost of enforcement.


 

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What We Learned From Hating the Unvaccinated

Only weeks ago, it was the admitted goal of our own leaders to make life unlivable for the unvaccinated. And as a deputized collective, we force-multiplied that pain, taking the fight into our families, friendships, and workplaces. Today, we face the hard truth that none of it was justified — and, in doing that, uncover a precious lesson.

It was a quick slide from righteousness to cruelty, and however much we might blame our leaders for the push, we’re accountable for stepping into the trap despite better judgement.

We knew that waning immunity put vast numbers of the fully vaccinated on par with the shrinking minority of unvaccinated, yet we marked them for special persecution. We said they hadn’t “done the right thing” by turning their bodies over to state care — even though we knew that principled opposition to such a thing is priceless in any circumstance. And we truly let ourselves believe that going into another ineffectual lockdown would be their fault, not the fault of toxic policy.

And so it was by the wilful ignorance of science, civics, and politics that we squeezed the unvaccinated to the degree that we did.

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In this study, we demonstrate that the Sputnik V vaccine has the highest rate of adverse effects, followed by the AstraZeneca and Sinopharm vaccines. COVID-19 vaccines used in Iran are safe and there were no reports of serious adverse effects.

 

 

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