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2020 Elections; Iowa and beyond

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So after the mess that was the Iowa caucuses, it's fair to say Bernie and Pete both did well. Bernie in my view is the winner, as he won by 2500+ votes, the SDE however seem to count and Pete won by a mere 2, but nonetheless they'll get the same pledged delegate count of 11. Warren did ok with 5. Biden had an awful night. It's fair to say everyone else is irrelevant. So now to NH, polls are showing Pete closing in on Bernie as the media somehow declared him a winner, whereas it wasn't clear that he was, and given that the SDE is irrelevant, and only the pledged delegates count, it isn't fair to declare him the winner, a tie is probably the right way to describe it. But nonetheless this narrative has given him momentum and given this narrative he goes into NH quite strong. If Bernie loses in NH to Pete, then we may see Pete gain traction in further states, but he will still have a major problem with minority voters in the South. But with Biden in the race, it may be difficult for Bernie to take a lot away from Pete in those states as well. I think a lot depends on NH, with Iowa largely irrelevant and they really ought to get rid of this stupid caucus system and apps that don't even work. 

What are your predictions? I think if Bernie wins NH, he will be strong going into NV, if he doesn't, he may find it difficult going into NV with Pete surging and him still having a relatively more difficult time than Biden with minority voters in the South, where Pete struggles. 

NYT is now btw giving Sanders the best chance of winning, however, these polls seem to be all over the place.

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Is Pete even good? Or people like him because he is gay? Anyway, I hope Bernie Sanders win, if I was American, I will vote for him. 

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l was reading the about John Kerry who reportedly hinted he will enter the race and who subsequently vehemently denied this. He is campaigning for Biden.

Kerry did not deny he is afraid that Bernie is an existential threat to the Democratic Party.

 

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Buttigeig will probably lose out simply because he is gay. I think he's more of a political statement than he is an actual presidential candidate.

I'd be surprised if things didn't turn in favor of Biden. But Bernie has been getting a lot of backing, even before the last elections.

Trump may have worked up just enough liberals to boost Bernie's campaign.

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52 minutes ago, iCenozoic said:

Buttigeig will probably lose out simply because he is gay. I think he's more of a political statement than he is an actual presidential candidate.

I'd be surprised if things didn't turn in favor of Biden. But Bernie has been getting a lot of backing, even before the last elections.

Trump may have worked up just enough liberals to boost Bernie's campaign.

I can't stand Pete or Biden. Warren is better than both in my view. For me it's Warren/Sanders and then everyone else is like I'd vote for them in the general but without supporting them, just seeing them as better than Trump.

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5 hours ago, Mohamed1993 said:

I can't stand Pete or Biden. Warren

l do not 'like' any of these three.

Sanders says things that needs to be said.

Gabbard is the calmest and most thoughtful.

Another thing about Gabbard l Iike is she is her own person. She is the one who voted "present" in the House during the impeachment plot, and both Nanny Pelousy and Hillar Clinton do not like her.

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14 hours ago, iCenozoic said:

Buttigeig will probably lose out simply because he is gay

Are you sure? He have more delegates than sanders.

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