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On 2/12/2020 at 9:10 PM, root said:

Two types of Shias

1. sit at home, say zikr, discuss fiqh and history all day and night.....this is the sort of Islam that noone has a problem with, not even Muawiyah had a problem with this type of Islam, stay in sajda until your head turns blue, or walk around kabah until your head spins. As long as you don't get involved in people robbing you empty. 

2. fights for the rights of Muslims, in a resistant and revolutionary way, and for this to happen, you need a government and a good and steadfast leader. And to attain this you will have to give blood, and sacrifice, and you will meet with hardships and traitors and still you have to endure. 

Simplified version ofc........but in the end, this is how it is, whether it hurts admitting it or not. 

This is in fact the most 'simplified version' of the divisive rhetoric that's plaguing our Shia communities. 

It's not your way or the highway my friend. There's much more 'resistance' out there other than your ideology; which by the way, does not represent nor is the exclusive spokesperson of the Shia faith, 'whether it hurts admitting it or not'. 

There's many types of Shias not just two. They do many different things as their forms of resistance and fighting injustice. They have different leaders with different ideologies so perhaps instead of the divisive rhetoric, let's try to focus on the commonalities. 

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On 2/18/2020 at 3:04 PM, Moalfas said:

This is in fact the most 'simplified version' of the divisive rhetoric that's plaguing our Shia communities. 

It's not your way or the highway my friend. There's much more 'resistance' out there other than your ideology; which by the way, does not represent nor is the exclusive spokesperson of the Shia faith, 'whether it hurts admitting it or not'. 

There's many types of Shias not just two. They do many different things as their forms of resistance and fighting injustice. They have different leaders with different ideologies so perhaps instead of the divisive rhetoric, let's try to focus on the commonalities. 

Whatever rocks your boat and helps you sleep better at night ;) proof is in the pudding. 

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On 2/18/2020 at 3:04 PM, Moalfas said:

This is in fact the most 'simplified version' of the divisive rhetoric that's plaguing our Shia communities. 

It's not your way or the highway my friend. There's much more 'resistance' out there other than your ideology; which by the way, does not represent nor is the exclusive spokesperson of the Shia faith, 'whether it hurts admitting it or not'. 

There's many types of Shias not just two. They do many different things as their forms of resistance and fighting injustice. They have different leaders with different ideologies so perhaps instead of the divisive rhetoric, let's try to focus on the commonalities. 

Could you tell us more about these other form of "resistances"? 

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3 hours ago, azizaliallah said:

Historically Shia has have avoided politics, and any positions to do with the government. 

Doesn't make it inherently right, and it doesn't mean we can't change. 

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2 hours ago, AmirioTheMuzzy said:

Doesn't make it inherently right, and it doesn't mean we can't change. 

Imam Khomeini changed everything.

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22 hours ago, root said:

Whatever rocks your boat and helps you sleep better at night ;) proof is in the pudding. 

Everyone will sleep better at night when the divisive rhetoric is nipped in the bud :) 

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22 hours ago, Mohammadi_follower said:

Could you tell us more about these other form of "resistances"? 

Any action one takes can be a form of resistance.

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On 2/12/2020 at 3:10 PM, root said:

Two types of Shias

1. sit at home, say zikr, discuss fiqh and history all day and night.....this is the sort of Islam that noone has a problem with, not even Muawiyah had a problem with this type of Islam, stay in sajda until your head turns blue, or walk around kabah until your head spins. As long as you don't get involved in people robbing you empty. 

2. fights for the rights of Muslims, in a resistant and revolutionary way, and for this to happen, you need a government and a good and steadfast leader. And to attain this you will have to give blood, and sacrifice, and you will meet with hardships and traitors and still you have to endure. 

Simplified version ofc........but in the end, this is how it is, whether it hurts admitting it or not. 

I’ve noticed staunch Iran suppoters tend to put things into dichotomies. Any criticism of the Iranian side places you at the other end of the spectrum, as the “false lazy British strand of Shiism.” Us human beings have a tendency to resort to tribalism and that’s what I see here. Makes it easier to place yourself on the right side of history when you oversimplify the situation. 

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11 hours ago, Moalfas said:

Everyone will sleep better at night when the divisive rhetoric is nipped in the bud :) 

Excellent salty argument, keep nipping like this:

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Any action one takes can be a form of resistance.

 

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1 hour ago, Hussain_ said:

I’ve noticed staunch Iran suppoters tend to put things into dichotomies. Any criticism of the Iranian side places you at the other end of the spectrum, as the “false lazy British strand of Shiism.” Us human beings have a tendency to resort to tribalism and that’s what I see here. Makes it easier to place yourself on the right side of history when you oversimplify the situation. 

Sometimes things are dichotomies. Sometimes things are right and wrong and no in between. I'm not going to go through the last 1400 years for you to detail the issue you call oversimplified. If you find it oversimplified then good, that was the intention. 

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