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Hameedeh

Information changes rapidly and some news reports can be unreliable. We appreciate participation during this pandemic, but some replies can be removed if inaccurate. This thread is ONLY for breaking news.

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2300GMT/1900EDT,Thurs.,09April2020

1,599,423 Confirmed Cases (+81,400)

95,523 Deaths (+7,066)

355,480 Recoveries

1,148,420 Currently lnfected (+58,057) Patients of which 49,089 (+1,071) are Serious or Critical

USA has +1,757 for a total 16,545 hospital deaths and 465,586 Confirmed Cases

White House Advisor, Dr... Fauci, said the final US death toll "looks more like 60,000 than the 100,000 to 200,000" previously estimated.

US has 18,279 hospitalized

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51 minutes ago, mesbah said:

Does this mean "out of hospital deaths" are not counted?

Yes, in the UK there is growing alarm that the already high number of deaths excludes those in care homes where elderly people live. There are growing numbers of cases of entire groups of elderly people being wiped out. 

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DUBAI, United Arab Emirates -- Iran’s supreme leader suggested Thursday that mass gatherings may be barred through the Muslim holy month of Ramadan amid the coronavirus pandemic. Meanwhile, Amnesty International said it believes at least 35 Iranian prisoners were killed by security forces suppressing riots by inmates over the virus. 

Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei made the comments in a televised address as Iran prepares to restart its economic activity while suffering one of the world’s worst outbreaks. He is also the highest-ranking official in the Muslim world to acknowledge the holy month of prayer and reflection will be disrupted by the virus and the COVID-19 illness it causes.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/Khamenei-suggests-Ramadan-gatherings-Iran-barred-70059379?cid=clicksource_4380645_10_heads_posts_headlines_hed

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4 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

Yes, in the UK there is growing alarm that the already high number of deaths excludes those in care homes where elderly people live. There are growing numbers of cases of entire groups of elderly people being wiped out. 

 

5 hours ago, mesbah said:

Does this mean "out of hospital deaths" are not counted?

This has been admitted to by ltaIy, reported as such in the US, and considered to be the case in lots of other countries because the victims were not tested for C-19.

 

Added: the mass geave picture: the bbc reported that this was for victims "without families".

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Total dead from corona reached to 100k. In the place where I live, some people still roaming around with their friends as if nothing is happening, I hope the police take severe punishment against them. 

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ltaIy to extend lockdown to May 3rd.

DeutscheWelle also said Ecuador's gov't "is down playing" its C-19 crisis as added to this similar report: https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/28670/ecuador-is-a-grisly-sign-of-how-covid-19-will-devestate-the-global-south  the other-than-the-techno-industrial-North where C-19 has been prevalent.

2202GMT/1802EDT,Friday,10April2020

1,692,343 Confirmed Cases (+88,649)

102,399 Deaths (+6,706)

375,321 Recoveries

1,214,623 Currently lnfected Patients of which 49,823 (+54) are Serious or Critical

Current Death Rate: 13.1 per 1million population

Earlier Today, my local news reported that many C-19 victims develop only short-term immunity and then get reinfected.

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12 hours ago, hasanhh said:

the victims were not tested

has there been any estimation (like based on epidemiological data, other data I don't know) of how many those out-of-count fatalities are?

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22 minutes ago, mesbah said:

has there been any estimation (like based on epidemiological data, other data I don't know) of how many those out-of-count fatalities are?

NBC gave an example on their Nightly News --comparing the number of found dead with the number of found-dead the year before. NBC reported that currently this is 8x year-on-year in NYC.

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1 hour ago, The Green Knight said:

I just saw a video ad for "Prada Body Bag" ... lol omg. Is that real? A classy body bag for the elite? A last show of financial well being really? Hah.

I'm just going to assume it's fake. I feel better that way. 

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On 4/10/2020 at 6:36 AM, Haji 2003 said:

Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei made the comments in a televised address as Iran prepares to restart its economic activity while suffering one of the world’s worst outbreaks. He is also the highest-ranking official in the Muslim world to acknowledge the holy month of prayer and reflection will be disrupted by the virus and the COVID-19 illness it causes.

 

Hmm.

 

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It didn’t take long for evangelical Christian leaders in the United States to identify the coronavirus as an agent of Satan. Once they had, many were initially reluctant to retreat from the battle by obeying social distancing measures. ... This Easter Sunday, a number of churches are planning to go ahead with services, ignoring the advice of public health experts in what they are pitching as a test of faith. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/easter-church-coronavirus-megachurch-pastors-Donald-Trump-a9460246.html

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3 minutes ago, haideriam said:

Thanks for informing us that we do not alone control the domain of Jahalat 

Yes, the good news is that jahalat knows no limits in terms of religion and even those who are too rational and clever to believe in any religion can also display the symptoms of stupid.

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Jahalat! What a great word, I had to look it up :) 

I am a Doctor and Christ Follower, and I'm grateful that my country has put measures in place to make religious gatherings illegal, including over church services over Easter.  It's difficult, but we are finding creative ways of meeting, including online. In my honest opinion any large gatherings at this point in the Pandemic are indeed Jahalat! 

I'm interested to know what countries represented on this forum are stating about religious gatherings going 
forward?

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2326GMT/1926EDT,Saturday,11April2020

1,776,698 Confirmed Cases (+77,817)

108,721 Deaths (+6,034)

401,636 Recoveries

1,266,341 Currently lnfected Patients (+51,718) of which 50,402 are Serious or Critical (+579)

For USA data, as of 1800hrs EDT there appears to be a mistake on the Florida public health department website stating that Florida had 533 deaths

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19 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei made the comments in a televised address as Iran prepares to restart its economic activity while suffering one of the world’s worst outbreaks. He is also the highest-ranking official in the Muslim world to acknowledge the holy month of prayer and reflection will be disrupted by the virus and the COVID-19 illness it causes.

Salam Imam Khamenei didn't order restarting economic activity but president Mr..Rohani & his advisers ordered it that Imam Khamenei just highlighted yearly slogan of "Production leap " for whole year also advising to prayer is always a part of his speeches that he said because of instruction of health advisers we closed shrines but as always british media twisted his words to show praying as licking wall of shrines .

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This is the tool to be used by the UKs National Health Service to determine whether or not someone makes it to intensive care. There are three parts reading from left to right, you add the scores from each of the three parts and if it's more than 8, you don't make it to intensive care.

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2233GMT/1833EDT,Sunday,12April2020

1,849,383 Confirmed Cases (+69,541)

114,053 Deaths (+5274)

422,558 Recoveries (+19,849)

1,312,772 Currently lnfected Patients (+44,418) of which 50,762 are Serious or Critical (+360)

USA has nearly 22k deaths and over 504k active cases. The US has tested 2.8 million +

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1 hour ago, hasanhh said:

of which 50,762 are Serious or Critical (+360)

OPINE: l have been wondering all week why the very slow rise in "serious or critical" numbers. l knew l posted the DNR SOP for several hospitals, but until l read Haji's post above, l didn't fathom "how quick" to (numerically) triage people this tragedy has become.

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Bio-Tech lnfo:

1] 2 Abstracts From 2017: Coronaviruses of Horses and Cattle; Biology of Diseases of Ruminants(Sheep, Goats and Cattle)

About 10 minutes reading.  https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/neuroscience/bovine-coronavirus 

2] March 2020 Easy-to-Read "C0VlD-19 and Livestock"  https://extension.sdstate.edu/novel-coronavirus-and-livestock-there-connection 

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2238GMT/1838EDT, Monday,13April2020

New York state has 10,054 C-19 Deaths; New Jersey 2,443 and Wyoming has its 1st death.

1,920,182 Confirmed Cases (+67,817)

119,410 Deaths (+5,214) 

443,737 Recoveries (+21,139)

1,357,035 Currently lnfected (+39,263) of which 51,719 are Serious or Critical (+957)

BBC: Unreported(above) nursing home deaths in Spain are 3500 C-19 Symtomatics and 800 Test Confirmed deaths.

The health care system in Ecuador already collapsed:  https://www.thedailybeast.com/coronavirus-chaos-grips-ecuador-as-bodies-rot-in-the-street   -which is what is expected to happen throughout the 3rd World.

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^ Here in the US there is a shortage of mouth swabs. If there are no swabs, then the test for coronavirus cannot be performed. People die without any confirmation of the cause. 

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OPINE: l believe the policy is to under report deaths. The reason being is the authorities are afraid of panic. Take the confirmed deaths and divide by the confirmed cases and we are having a 6% death rate. (l used yesterday's, the 13th's, numbers)

Using only the US, 23,644 : 587,173 = 4%  [today's 0835GMT/0435EDT numbers]

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5 hours ago, hasanhh said:

OPINE: l believe the policy is to under report deaths. The reason being is the authorities are afraid of panic.

Yes. I also came across the believable theory that the West was willing to accept Chinese numbers, because the reality was horrifying.

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As a layperson this is the number that seems to me to be the best indicator of the impact of cv19 on deaths:

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The Office for National Statistics data showed the virus was mentioned on 3,475 death certificates in the week ending 3 April.

It helped push the total number of deaths in that week to more than 16,000 - a record high and 6,000 more than expected at this time of year.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52278825

Given the issues about under and over-reporting, dying of CV19 or with CV19, surely counting the number of deaths this week/month/quarter with last year or the average of the past x years gives a reasonable (though not perfect) indication of the impact of CV19? 

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According to PBS News Hour, Tues,14Apr20, there are ~1 million people in nursing homes and assisted care facilities, which also posted a factoid that 75% of these facilities did not meet minimum federal staffing levels.

The National Restaurant Association estimates that 75% of America's restaurants will not re-open. -New York Times

2231GMT/1831EDT, Tuesday,14April2020

1,991,549 Confirmed Cases (+67,612)

125,998 Deaths (+6,380) [1/5 of new deaths reported are in the USA at this time]

467,111 Recoveries (+23,374)

1,398,440 Currently lnfected (+46,305) of which 51,561 are Serious or Critical (-258) Yes, a minus.

New York City is reclassifying 3,778 deaths since March 11th as "probable" C0VlD-19 or an "equivalent". What the "historical distribution" determination obtained is, will determine how, if any, incorporation into the final numbers will be.

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41 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

New York City is reclassifying 3,778 deaths since March 11th as "probable" C0VlD-19 or an "equivalent". What the "historical distribution" determination obtained is, will determine how, if any, incorporation into the final numbers will be.

Seeing the bodies in coffins being buried in a mass grave, I thought these people had nobody to claim their remains for private burial and/or there were no supplies to test them for covid-19 so they might be tested after future exhumation.

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16 hours ago, hasanhh said:

New York City is reclassifying 3,778 deaths since March 11th as "probable" C0VlD-19 or an "equivalent". What the "historical distribution" determination obtained is, will determine how, if any, incorporation into the final numbers will be.

While WorldoMeters and other counters retain the 26,064 US deaths figure, in hyping the news, NBC an other nutworks are adding in this "3,778" and claim "29,647" in the same reporting with the US now withholding money from the WHO.

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Iran has likely suffered twice as many deaths from coronavirus as the country's official death toll states, a parliamentary report has said. 

Investigators said the official total only counted those who died in hospital and who tested positive for the virus before they died - meaning the true toll is higher.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8221927/Irans-parliament-admits-coronavirus-death-toll-likely-double-official-4-777-figure.html

The low numbers are based on methods also used in other countries to minimise the numbers. I think many other countries will 'own up' to higher numbers as time passes.

Particularly for Iran before this became an international crisis owning up to the biggest numbers possible would have been a mistake. The IRI would have been singled out for criticism for failings that have affected most others.

The difference is that in the case of Iran those weaknesses would have also led to calls for the overthrow of the government - from the usual suspects.

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@Hameedeh  l got another call from the Cardiologist's office. Instead of in-office, the follow-up will be over-the-phone. The nurse l talked to yesterday and the office girl today both sounded really stressed out. "Be-safe" has gotten to be the parting phrase, reminding me of Hill Street Blues Roll-Call Sargent's "Hey ... Hey ... Be Careful Out There !"

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