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From the Bruce Aylward (WHO) press conference after his visit to China. He points out that the way the cases had been rising the top of the curve should have been much higher but each point of Chinese government intervention stunted the growth of the curve.

More text here:

https://www.businessinsider.com/what-works-to-fight-covid-19-lessons-from-china-who-2020-2?r=US&IR=T

Screenshot 2020-02-27 at 13.21.14.png

 

See this for the full video. Good bit starts around 25 minutes into the press conference:

 

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NHK Thurs 27Feb

Good Idea:  Seoul, RoK has Drive-Thru(Through) health stations so people can get checked in their cars without risking infection from waiting rooms.

There are 3,200 confirmed cases outside China and Japan

NHK reported that an lRl Vice-President has the C0VlD-19.

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01:39GMT,28Feb20///20:39EST,Thurs,27Feb2020

2,858 Deaths

83,378 Confirmed Cases

36,525 Recoveries

43,995 Currently lnfected Patients of which 8,099 are Serious or Critical

Notes:

1st Case on the 27th in Nigeria, San Marino, Netherlands, Northern lreIand,

And on the 26th of February, Romania, Georgia, North Macedonia, Pakistan(2), Greece and Norway

Largest Number of Deaths by Country:

China:      2,788    44 today of which 41 were in Hubei Province

lRl:               26

ltaIy:             17

RoK:             13

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A Guide: How To Prepare Your Home For Coronavirus

(Don't panic, but be prepared. Not responsible for advice that is not halal.)

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/26/809650625/a-guide-how-to-prepare-your-home-for-coronavirus

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9 hours ago, mesbah said:

funny how everyone in the region tries to blame it on Iran.

Salam,

Its not a blame, the za'ir name Yahya Jaferi arrived in Pakistan from Tehran on 22nd of Feb was tested positive for corona virus. We really don't know whether these two are the first cases of corona virus in Pakistan. As for now, these two are the first two "officially reported" cases in Pakistan. 

Don't view it as "Anti-Iran" plotting please.

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1 hour ago, Hameedeh said:

A Guide: How To Prepare Your Home For Coronavirus

(Don't panic, but be prepared. Not responsible for advice that is not halal.)

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/26/809650625/a-guide-how-to-prepare-your-home-for-coronavirus

The article does not discuss likely events such as school cancellations.

And most people cannot telecommute. Unless you can take machines and supply trucks home.

What about temporary layoffs? Do you have enough money to make living expenses, rent and all??????

lf you are in retail stores , you will likely be laid off. Most pharmacies have drive through windows---N0 need to open the store.

A drop in truck traffic and dock work. Assembly lines will come to a virual universal halt.

We can have a 20% temporary unemployment rate fairly quickly.

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Interesting to see the output from various Chinese sources on Twitter. You get to see the nice side of state propaganda, lots of feel good and heroic stories about how people are fighting the virus.

 

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Personal Well-Being Preparation:

Since C0VlD-19 is a new-novel infectious agent and is not completely understood yet, only a few specifics exist that can protect your health and bio-endurance.

Electrolytes: Early on, a Wuhan doctor said this was effective 'treatment'. So, for the additional minerals and such, vitamins for old people will help. Teenaged girls and women also need a hema-iron supplement: General Read, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3520628/ 

Any other suggestions?

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19 hours ago, Hameedeh said:

A Guide: How To Prepare Your Home For Coronavirus

(Don't panic, but be prepared. Not responsible for advice that is not halal.)

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/26/809650625/a-guide-how-to-prepare-your-home-for-coronavirus

We see public places in various countries being hosed down with disinfectant, we know that the virus can stay on surfaces for 9 hours or more. We've seen Chinese healthcare workers wear several layers of protective clothing and people aboard the Diamond Princess catch the virus even though they were in different rooms, so this advice from the above source could turn out to be optimistic:

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If COVID-19 does start circulating in your community or there's someone sick at home, plan on cleaning surfaces that get touched frequently — such as kitchen counters and bathroom faucets — several times a day, says Dr..... Trish Perl, chief of the infectious disease division at UT Southwestern Medical Center. 

My view is this. The elderly are particularly vulnerable, those who have heart/cancer/HIV conditions also. Perhaps at a personal level they should self-isolate. They should gather say in a property that is effectively locked down. I'm suggesting this course of action to my family.

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3 hours ago, Logic1234 said:

Salam,

Its not a blame, the za'ir name Yahya Jaferi arrived in Pakistan from Tehran on 22nd of Feb was tested positive for corona virus. We really don't know whether these two are the first cases of corona virus in Pakistan. As for now, these two are the first two "officially reported" cases in Pakistan. 

Don't view it as "Anti-Iran" plotting please.

WSalam

It's from both sides.

As a matter of fact, Iranians see that Za'ir as the one who brought Corona to Iran, not the one who took it in Iran.

I called it dirty games, not anti-Iran plot.

As if relationship between regional countries is only religious, no businessman, no tourist, no University student, no one made a single trip all these days, it was only Za'irs and seminary students who helped the spread of disease.

It's pathetic how some media treat this as an old fashioned, medieval kind of religion/science dichotomy.

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8 minutes ago, mesbah said:

As a matter of fact, Iranians see that Za'ir as the one who brought Corona to Iran, not the one who took it in Iran.

Salam,

Yes it is possible too. Corona virus is not the epidemic which originated from Iran, so its obvious that it somehow reached to Iran from outside. And while Chinese citizens are actively working in both the countries, we cannot say anything for sure. 

Wassalam. 

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On 1/25/2020 at 5:05 PM, AkhiraisReal said:

Im not pro nor anti.

You are a textbook example of an anti-vaxxer. Also, I will personally never forgive you if I ever find out somebody lost a child because they listened to you.

Willful ignorance deserves a harsh response. 

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1 hour ago, Diaz said:

I think today I will skip Friday prayer, never skip a day since August 2018. ;( 

Update:- I went to masjid today, we prayed the Friday prayer, once we completed the prayer the Imam said the first row did something wrong, when he said “Allah Akbar” to do the ruku, the first row did the ruku before him, I was in the second row so we all followed the first row. once we completed the prayer he said he should do it first and then we should follow him, and then he said what they (first row) did was wrong. Lastly, he said we should pray 2 raka before salat asr. Do anyone know any idea what he was talking about? 

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2 hours ago, Diaz said:

Update:- I went to masjid today, we prayed the Friday prayer, once we completed the prayer the Imam said the first row did something wrong, when he said “Allah Akbar” to do the ruku, the first row did the ruku before him, I was in the second row so we all followed the first row. once we completed the prayer he said he should do it first and then we should follow him, and then he said what they (first row) did was wrong. Lastly, he said we should pray 2 raka before salat asr. Do anyone know any idea what he was talking about? 

:salam:

No idea.

But right now I am deliberately skipping friday prayer. 

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12 hours ago, mesbah said:

WSalam

It's from both sides.

As a matter of fact, Iranians see that Za'ir as the one who brought Corona to Iran, not the one who took it in Iran.

I called it dirty games, not anti-Iran plot.

As if relationship between regional countries is only religious, no businessman, no tourist, no University student, no one made a single trip all these days, it was only Za'irs and seminary students who helped the spread of disease.

It's pathetic how some media treat this as an old fashioned, medieval kind of religion/science dichotomy.

It is not a dirty game to suggest that Iran is one of the top affected countries, alongside China, South Korea, Japan and Italy, and that the outbreak in Iran could spread easily because of the level of religious tourism in the region and the congested public gatherings all around Iran.

These are called facts

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33 minutes ago, Sumerian said:

because of the level of religious tourism in the region

in percentage, how many percentage of the regional transportation does this "Iranian religious tourism" constitute? more than Saudi religious tourism? Turkish tourism? Dubai and Doha being international flight hubs in the region?
Iranian religious tourism is restricted to Shia, Saudi religious tourism is both Shia and Sunni, and their seminaries are filled with foreign students. (Saudis closed their religious tourism only after Iran declared the cases)


putting religion aside;

what about businesses, due to sanctions, Iran has a very small share of international business trips in the region. but just look at other countries in the region with their massive reception of foreign business and the related trips. the malls, airports, new year's festivals and all other kinds of social gatherings in them.

These are facts.
and the rest are dirty games, played to maximize the so called isolation of Iran.

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1 hour ago, mesbah said:

 . . . and the rest are dirty games, played to maximize the so called isolation of Iran.

l just finished watching France24. They purported that that "hundreds have died" in lRl, that the lRI gov't has threatened to jail anyone who discusses C0VlD-19 online or on social media, and something else l don't believe.

Other France24 info: jummah was cancelled in Tehran; medical aid from the West to lRl is being blocked; that more senior leaders are infected.

ADDED: The French economics minister is denouncing non-gov'tal statistics and projections or posting information the gov't didn't post (approve) as this is damaging the economy. TRANSLATION: Don't panic until gov't officials have sold out their economic holdings.:ranting:

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1 hour ago, hasanhh said:

Other France24 info: jummah was cancelled in Tehran; medical aid from the West to lRl is being blocked; that more senior leaders are infected.

CLARIFICATION:

"medical aid . . . blocked"   --multiple media outlets are saying the US will provide assistance. There are no reports known to me that other countries will. lnterpretation: the US will insist on something for this "aid" (which may or not may arrive) while the other Western countries do nothing (at US insistence).

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00:54GMT,Sat29Feb//19:54EST,Fri,28Feb20

2,923 Deaths

84,6111 Cases

39,448 Recoveries

42,240 Currently lnfected of which 7,816 are Serious or Critical

1st two cases in Mexico

1st case in Monaco, Wales, lceland, Belarus(a citizen of lran), Lithuania, New Zealand, Azerbaijan,

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lRl has been accused of "lying" about the number of C0VlD-19 infections. Along with ltaly, South Korea and Japan, lran is a secondary epicenter for the spread of C0VlD-19.

The first part of this article explans "how" the West accuses lRI of "lying":  

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/how-Iran-became-a-new-epicenter-of-the-coronavirus-outbreak 

This from lran Daily "Coronavirus could kill half a million Britons" a "reasonable worst case scenario":

https://www.Iran-daily.com/News/266241.html 

Edited by hasanhh

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We believe in God, the creator of the universe, the maker of viruses. He has an appointed outcome of all things. He loves us. We can trust Him. Let's pray for one another, for our countries, our families, our eternal souls. This thing we cannot understand or control does not really control us. It has no power over us except what God allows. His will be done in all our lives. May we simply know it and follow it, wherever He leads us. Blessings and grace, my brothers and sisters. God bless you and keep you and give you peace.

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6 hours ago, mesbah said:

in percentage, how many percentage of the regional transportation does this "Iranian religious tourism" constitute? more than Saudi religious tourism? Turkish tourism? Dubai and Doha being international flight hubs in the region?
Iranian religious tourism is restricted to Shia, Saudi religious tourism is both Shia and Sunni, and their seminaries are filled with foreign students. (Saudis closed their religious tourism only after Iran declared the cases)


putting religion aside;

what about businesses, due to sanctions, Iran has a very small share of international business trips in the region. but just look at other countries in the region with their massive reception of foreign business and the related trips. the malls, airports, new year's festivals and all other kinds of social gatherings in them.

These are facts.
and the rest are dirty games, played to maximize the so called isolation of Iran.

It doesn't matter how much travel a country has with the rest of the world, what matters is whether a country is experiencing an internal outbreak or not.

A country can have a million travellers but if they're all non-infected that's fine. Another country can have 50,000 travellers but 500 are infected, that's a disaster.

The virus was imported into Iran from China, and that caused a local outbreak. Iran was unlucky.

This is the fact.

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3 hours ago, peace4alltheworld said:

1.People have gone crazy over surgical masks.I can't seem to find any.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/ondemand/video/9999020/

l posted this vido before, buy it appears there have been so many views that it is now on the "ondemand".

There is also papier-mache mask videos, but that is too elaborate to be disposable.

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4 hours ago, hasanhh said:

lRl has been accused of "lying" about the number of C0VlD-19 infections. Along with ltaly, South Korea and Japan, lran is a secondary epicenter for the spread of C0VlD-19.

The first part of this article explans "how" the West accuses lRI of "lying":  

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/how-Iran-became-a-new-epicenter-of-the-coronavirus-outbreak 

This from lran Daily "Coronavirus could kill half a million Britons" a "reasonable worst case scenario":

https://www.Iran-daily.com/News/266241.html 

Salam It's an old dirty political game of Accusing IRI as source of all troubles in world that except Harirchi other reformists as Sadeghi & mrs Ebtekar are using  their illness as a political maneuver in response of  heavy defeat of their party in parliament election that just useful for anti IRI  propaganda but majority of Iranian people in social media made fun of them even a few asked for their death but only viral thing is illness of Mr. Harirchi that westerner users made fun of him but Iraqis praised him as an authority that is in front line instead of not caring about people also Corona virus spread in Arabic countries like UEA before Iran but they denied it also some unfirmed reports are saying source of spreading Corona in Iran was a merchant from KSA that had a Chinese wife that after his visit from Iran he died in return to home but KSA is censoring all news about Corona between it's citizens also KSA banned all travels to Mecca & Medina that caused westerner users made fun of it that " Allah can't defeat Corona"

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21 hours ago, Diaz said:

Update:- I went to masjid today, we prayed the Friday prayer, once we completed the prayer the Imam said the first row did something wrong, when he said “Allah Akbar” to do the ruku, the first row did the ruku before him, I was in the second row so we all followed the first row. once we completed the prayer he said he should do it first and then we should follow him, and then he said what they (first row) did was wrong. Lastly, he said we should pray 2 raka before salat asr. Do anyone know any idea what he was talking about? 

Salam it's obligatory that all rows behind Imam do the Ruku after Imam so if anyone or any row does Ruku before doing Ruku by Imam their prayer is void & they must repeat their Namaz from beginning. 

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43 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam It's an old dirty political game of Accusing IRI as source of all troubles in world that except Harirchi other reformists as Sadeghi & mrs Ebtekar are using  their illness as a political maneuver in response of to the  heavy defeat of their party in parliament election that which is just useful for anti IRI  propaganda, but the majority of Iranian people in on social media made fun of them --even a few asked for their death but only viral thing is illness of Mr.. Harirchi that westerner users made fun of him but Iraqis praised him as an authority that is in front line instead of not caring about people also Corona virus spread in Arabic countries like UEA before Iran but they denied it also some unfirmed reports are saying source of spreading Corona in Iran was a merchant from KSA that had a Chinese wife that after his visit from Iran he died in return to home but KSA is censoring all news about Corona between it's citizens also KSA banned all travels to Mecca & Medina that caused westerner users made fun of it that " Allah can't defeat Corona"

l had to look up two of the names. M.Sadeghi has a profile on Wikippedia and expect for noting he is a Private Law specialist and an MP, the information is only about his "illness".  Yes, its anti-lRl propaganda.

When l read over a few IRl news sources last night, l saw were the US "offer" of assistance was dismissed as a ploy. Like l wrote before l read it.

All gov'ts are "blockheaded", but there is something really wrong with Washington. Remember when Bush 43 lifted the ban on assistance to lran after the Bam earthquake?  Yet, the people around Trump have him convinced it is 'good' to let a new bio-hazard ravage Central Asia. 

Even when l was little the Christians said, "only God(of Noah) can punish some people".

Right now, l am going to try and watch dw.com. WaSalam

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3 hours ago, Sumerian said:

Iran was unlucky

Yes, I had forgotten, the quality of being 'lucky' or 'unlucky' is the ultimate fact.

Simple probability based calculations are delusions that can't stand "lucky/unlucky" facts.

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19 minutes ago, mesbah said:

Yes, I had forgotten, the quality of being 'lucky' or 'unlucky' is the ultimate fact.

Simple probability based calculations are delusions that can't stand "lucky/unlucky" facts.

Well it wasn't just down to luck, it was also sheer incompetence when it came to ending travel with China, lack of testing, and a poor health structure which has been affected by US sanctions.

You can't deny this fact: Iran, even by its own admitted numbers, is the most affected country in the region. Every plane that comes from Iran is a flight risk, possibly the riskiest behind China, seeing as how many countries even as far as Canada and Australia have reported cases from people who have been to Iran.

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1 hour ago, Sumerian said:

lack of testing, and a poor health structure

yes, Iran's medical incompetence, that's why thousands of Iraqis and other Arabs go to Iran for medical treatment each year:
https://ariamedtour.com/reviews/patient-stories/Arab-man/

1 hour ago, Sumerian said:

You can't deny this fact

"the fact" purported by the very media outlets that alerted the world about Iraq's WMDs before its invasion by US.

Edited by mesbah

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2 hours ago, mesbah said:

yes, Iran's medical incompetence, that's why thousands of Iraqis and other Arabs go to Iran for medical treatment each year:
https://ariamedtour.com/reviews/patient-stories/Arab-man/

Oh yes, because Iraqis and poor Arabs are the standard for good health systems. 

WHO ranks Iran's system as average. Or is the WHO also compromised by "enemies"? 

In any case, this is your beloved State propaganda admitting US sanctions are hindering Iranian efforts at combatting coronavirus.

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/02/28/619728/Iran-virus-US-sanctions

I find it funny how you want to deny Iranian incompetence and poor system led to the coronavirus outbreak in Iran. How else did it appear? Magically? 

2 hours ago, mesbah said:

"the fact" purported by the very media outlets that alerted the world about Iraq's WMDs before its invasion by US.

Uhhh this fact is Iran's own numbers... admitting 43 deaths and over 450 cases. That's the most cases in West Asia, and the highest death rate behind China.

Oh yea WMD media :hahaha:

Edited by Sumerian

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