COVID-19 - Breaking News [OFFICIAL THREAD]

[Mohamad Abdel-Hamid]

1 hour ago, Diaz said:

My sister friend who is Indian said people are turning into zombies, like their skin is becoming darker, their eyes is becoming white etc just like zombies, is that true? 

lol I think you're exagerating. Saying they turn into zombies implies that the disease somehow controlls the infected person's brain and that they will start to chase and eat us, which has never happened in history . I think it's more accurate to say that they just appear more sick or even more like a corpse. You can see them with black dead tissue on the nose and eyes, and also huge scabs on the skin.

I've studied this "black fungus", scientifically Mucormycosis. It affects the orbital cavity and nasal sinuses from which it can enter and cause meningoencefalitis and even thrombosis (so it's true that it affects the brain, but it only damages it, there's no posession of the person). It can also affect the lungs, as well as the digestive system. Overall it's a pretty ugly disease, if you search in google images you'll be disgusted.

It's also true that it affects more people that already have health problems, like diabetes and probably covid.

[Diaz]

27 minutes ago, Mohamad Abdel-Hamid said:

lol I think you're exagerating. Saying they turn into zombies implies that the disease somehow controlls the infected person's brain and that they will start to chase and eat us, which has never happened in history . I think it's more accurate to say that they just appear more sick or even more like a corpse. You can see them with black dead tissue on the nose and eyes, and also huge scabs on the skin.

I've studied this "black fungus", scientifically Mucormycosis. It affects the orbital cavity and nasal sinuses from which it can enter and cause meningoencefalitis and even thrombosis (so it's true that it affects the brain, but it only damages it, there's no posession of the person). It can also affect the lungs, as well as the digestive system. Overall it's a pretty ugly disease, if you search in google images you'll be disgusted.

It's also true that it affects more people that already have health problems, like diabetes and probably covid.

My sister’s friend is the one who said that, not me. XD

[Sirius_Bright]

23 hours ago, Diaz said:

edit:- just now I checked that link above, I think that’s what she meant. Thanks for the info and pls stay safe brother. I hope u got ur vaccine. 

Thanks. I got the first dose. 

[Haji 2003]

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

Iran’s Astan-e Quds delivers 300 ventilators to India

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The devices are made in Iran and comply with the highest international standards, ILNA reported.

Ali Chegini, Iran's ambassador to New Delhi, said that “despite being imposed the most severe sanctions, Iran has fortunately reached a good stage in the production of high-tech medical equipment, and today could donate 300 high-quality ventilators to India.”

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/461468/Iran-s-Astan-e-Quds-delivers-300-ventilators-to-India

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The ministry said this also includes 680 oxygen cylinders received from Turkey, which have some compliance issues, hence they have been withheld at a warehouse.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/over-18-000-oxygen-concentrators-770-000-vials-of-remdesivir-received-as-foreign-aid-sent-to-states-centre-101622286889172.html

 

https://www.aninews.in/news/national/general-news/covid-19-iran-sends-300-oxygen-concentrators-to-india20210529012610/

https://en.isna.ir/news/1400030805782/Iran-donates-300-oxygen-concentrators-to-India

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/covid-19-iran-sends-300-oxygen-concentrators-to-india-2451588

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On April 25, Iranian Health Minister Saeed Namaki, in a letter to his Indian counterpart, expressed readiness to provide technical assistance, expertise, and equipment to contain coronavirus as new cases surge in India.

The government and people of Iran are ready not to withhold any technical, expert, and equipment assistance in these difficult days and help Indian citizens to curb the epidemic, he wrote.

https://news.besthinditech.com/irans-astan-e-quds-delivers-300-ventilators-to-india/

UK sends India oxygen concentrators and ventilators – but no Covid vaccines

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The UK has been “first out of the blocks” with help for India, but will not send vaccines to the Covid-ravaged country until Britain has a surplus of supplies, the Foreign Office minister, Nigel Adams, has told MPs.

But he insisted they did not need to send more vaccines to the country as the government had already donated to the Covax scheme administered by the World Health Organization (WHO).

Adams’s comments came before an announcement that the UK had ordered a further 60m doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine in an effort to ensure that booster jabs can be given from this autumn. This brings the number of Pfizer doses ordered to the same level as Oxford/AstraZeneca doses; the UK currently expects to receive 100m of each.

Adams said the equipment from surplus stocks was based “on the most acute need indicated to us by the Indian government”. He said the UK would be looking to see if there was more to be done. Oxygen cylinders were not being sent, he said, because the Indian government said replenishment was not compatible with Indian systems.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/28/uk-sends-oxygen-concentrators-and-ventilators-to-india-but-no-covid-vaccines

[Ashvazdanghe]

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Iran’s Astan-e Quds delivers 300 ventilators to India

https://www.iribnews.ir/fa/news/3121160/بازتاب-کمک-رسانی-ایران-به-هند-در-رسانه‌های-این-کشور

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"Iran's encounter with inhumane sanctions does not impede stretching helping hands to friends: 300 oxygen concentrators donated by Iran to India in solidarity with India's fight against COVID-19," the Iranian Embassy in India tweeted.

"Human beings are members of a whole as Great Saadi says," it added.

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/461468/Iran-s-Astan-e-Quds-delivers-300-ventilators-to-India

https://english.lokmat.com/national/covid-19-iran-sends-300-oxygen-concentrators-to-india/

https://in.news.yahoo.com/covid-19-iran-sends-300-200059885.html

https://in.news.yahoo.com/amphtml/covid-19-iran-sends-300-200059885.html

 

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

Global Times Comment: Indian media’s smear of China-made oxygen concentrators is shameless

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GLOBAL TIMES: India Today on Friday(May 14) slammed China for a surge in prices while sending sub-standard oxygen concentrators to India in an "exclusive" report.

The report not only criticised Chinese companies, but also directed anger against China. "It is a matter of life and death, but China is choosing to make profits at the cost of people's lives," the report says.

I have to say that this report is extremely unprofessional and the malicious incitement in this report is shameless. The editors of India Today probably have got their conscience eaten by a dog.

https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2021/05/16/global-times-comment-indian-medias-smear-of-china-made-oxygen-concentrators-is-shameless

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COVID-19 surge: Iran bans flights from India, Pakistan
Several other countries in the region, including the sheikhdoms of the United Arab Emirates, Oman and Kuwait, also have banned flights to and from India over the rise in coronavirus cases there

twitter-logoAssociated Press | April 24, 2021 | Updated 19:12 IST

https://www.businesstoday.in/sectors/aviation/covid-19-surge-iran-bans-flights-from-india-pakistan/story/437498.html

https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/india-news-covid-19-air-india-brings-328-oxygen-concentrators-from-us-centre-to-import-2-gas-containers-from-dubai/381300

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

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Iran in India

 

@Iran_in_India

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May 28

 

Iran’s encounter with inhumane sanctions does not impede stretching helping hands to friends: 300 Oxygen Concentrators donated by #Iran to #India in solidarity with India's fight against Covid-19. "Human beings are members of a whole" as Great Saadi says. #IndiaFightsCorona

https://twitter.com/Iran_in_India/status/1398322558299086848?s=20

[Haji 2003]

For those people who have been fussing over whether someone has died with covid or of covid etc., it's always been a matter of excess deaths:

 

[Son of Placid]

On 5/23/2021 at 5:56 AM, Haji 2003 said:

Pretty much, and if you don't agree you're in the other circle and to be avoided or beaten. 
If there happens to be a conventional inactivated virus vaccine that is safer than mrna come along, do like the CDC and ignore it.
Don't look.
https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/immunization/sage/2021/april/5_sage29apr2021_critical-evidence_sinovac.pdf?sfvrsn=2488098d_5

 

[Haji 2003]

Personally, I am open minded as to exactly where the virus began, but I thought this was funny:

 

[Abdul-Hadi]

7 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

Personally, I am open minded as to exactly where the virus began, but I thought this was funny:

 

I thought that the virus escaped from a lab on day 1. Just because Trump initially posited the theory does not mean that it's not true, Trump can be right about things in the same way a broken clock is right twice a day. It was stupid for the media to jump all over him and call him "racist" for saying that it escaped from the lab in Wuhan, but the American media is world-renowned for being stupid.

[Haji 2003]

2 hours ago, Abdul-Hadi said:

Just because Trump initially posited the theory does not mean that it's not true, Trump can be right about things in the same way a broken clock is right twice a day.

I agree. I think the problem with the way that Trump seemed to be spinning it was that any deaths that then resulted from the virus could be laid at the doorstep of the Chinese.

 

[Abdul-Hadi]

3 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

I agree. I think the problem with the way that Trump seemed to be spinning it was that any deaths that then resulted from the virus could be laid at the doorstep of the Chinese.

 

Maybe not on the doorstep of the Chinese people, but on the doorstep of the Chinese Communist Party? Yeah probably, if it escaped from a lab the way people are starting to think it did. They (CCP) should have had better security practices in place to prevent the virus from initially making the jump to people and then escaping from the lab. If this was the case, then the CCP definitely shoulders some of the blame, but the US also shoulders some of the blame because we were giving funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to study the virus to begin with.

All in all, I don't think that people should be messing around with viruses to try and make them more infectious because things like this are what can & do happen. We should be studying them to work on cures, not trying to make them more infectious for warfare or whatever other purposes that we (humans) were doing it for.

But I am not a scientist, so my opinion is basically moot.

[Patient Warrior]

26 minutes ago, Abdul-Hadi said:

Maybe not on the doorstep of the Chinese people, but on the doorstep of the Chinese Communist Party? Yeah probably, if it escaped from a lab the way people are starting to think it did. They (CCP) should have had better security practices in place to prevent the virus from initially making the jump to people and then escaping from the lab. If this was the case, then the CCP definitely shoulders some of the blame, but the US also shoulders some of the blame because we were giving funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to study the virus to begin with.

All in all, I don't think that people should be messing around with viruses to try and make them more infectious because things like this are what can & do happen. We should be studying them to work on cures, not trying to make them more infectious for warfare or whatever other purposes that we (humans) were doing it for.

But I am not a scientist, so my opinion is basically moot.

There is quite a lot of incentive for this to be some bio weapon that damages economies worldwide. Creating a power vacuum by lowering everybody sure beats head on collision between super powers. Sounds Machiavellian and fictional but history has certainly seen worse agendas.

[Abdul-Hadi]

3 hours ago, Patient Warrior said:

There is quite a lot of incentive for this to be some bio weapon that damages economies worldwide. Creating a power vacuum by lowering everybody sure beats head on collision between super powers. Sounds Machiavellian and fictional but history has certainly seen worse agendas.

The sole reason I don't believe that it was released as a Bioweapon is because it wouldn't make any sense for China to release it on their own population first, killing people and disrupting their economy. If it had been an actual release of a Bioweapon, my sense of logic says that the Chinese would have had a vaccination for it first and it would have started in a country other than China.

I definitely believe that it leaked out of a lab though, probably the Wuhan Institute of Virology where scientists were performing gain of function research on coronaviruses either to weaponize them or (as they claim) "develop cures for them". I am guessing that Trump mentioned that it escaped from a lab because he had military intel on how it started, and that because Trump originally posited this origin story, that the media had to jump all over it and say that it was not true, because they cannot let Trump ever be right about anything due to their fanatical hatred of him.

I do find it interesting that the first vaccine was developed by a Turkish immigrant to Germany though I am not sure if he is a Muslim or not.

[Patient Warrior]

2 hours ago, Abdul-Hadi said:

China to release it on their own population first, killing people and disrupting their economy.

Would it be to far fetched for me to say that the end justified the means? China would be much more capable than their western rivals on forced lock downs and even in the event of the deaths of Chinese citizens; why would they care? They force one child policy because of population control. I find it hard to believe any government body would be empathetic to the deaths of innocents let alone China.

2 hours ago, Abdul-Hadi said:

Chinese would have had a vaccination for it first and it would have started in a country other than China.

Still playing devils advocate but what say you to the idea that it would be more easier to keep it within a well known and controlled environment? The release of said bio-weapon might need much more cover up with risk far more outweighed in other nations then at home base.

We've already seen this at play with WHO and corresponding scientists using the wet market excuse to cover up any scientific manipulation.

2 hours ago, Abdul-Hadi said:

coronaviruses either to weaponize them

Highly agree with your point here. Sounds like some resident-evil type stuff but often art mimics life I suppose. 

2 hours ago, Abdul-Hadi said:

I do find it interesting that the first vaccine was developed by a Turkish immigrant to Germany though I am not sure if he is a Muslim or not.

I remember a scientist on Joe Rogan's podcast during the initial stages of lock down said and I'm paraphrasing; "Creating a vaccine for covid-19 is extremely easy. It's the lasting effects that need time to be studied and tested on many subjects over a time".

I also recall the J&J vaccine was built on a pre-existing SARS like virus that's similar to Covid-19 thus the formula was already sort of present.

Off topic but could I also get your thoughts on the SPARS document released by Hopkins university?

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/Center-projects/completed-projects/spars-pandemic-scenario.html

It seems to outline a procedure that's extremely similar to what we're seeing occur today despite being a couple years old? Further proof that this was a mitigated risk if the gain of function research leaked?

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[Abdul-Hadi]

3 hours ago, Patient Warrior said:

Would it be to far fetched for me to say that the end justified the means?

Eh, it's not terribly far fetched because China is an authoritarian society that enforces state sanctioned atheism, so if I really wanted to be paranoid I could potentially see China doing something like that, but I already suffer from irrational paranoia due to a medical condition so I try to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. Maybe I am wrong, I hope not, because that would speak volumes about the moral bankruptcy of the Chinese Communist Party but they are an atheist society that is using Muslims as slave labor and not permitting people under 18 to attend Jummah, so anything is possible really.

 

 

3 hours ago, Patient Warrior said:

Still playing devils advocate but what say you to the idea that it would be more easier to keep it within a well known and controlled environment? The release of said bio-weapon might need much more cover up with risk far more outweighed in other nations then at home base.

We've already seen this at play with WHO and corresponding scientists using the wet market excuse to cover up any scientific manipulation.

I mean, it's possible. Anything is possible, but is it probable? I would like to hope that this isn't the case although I definitely know what you're talking about with the WHO pushing the wet market theory, which they're doing because they receive a lot of funding from China.

The thing you have to remember about Asian societies is that they are honor cultures that have a concept called "face" that I do not understand very well, so I'm going to try my best here: If it came out that the virus was released accidentally from a lab, this would cause the country and by extension the CCP to lose "face". I think this is why the wet market theory is being pushed so heavily by the WHO and why the CCP is trying to say that it came off of packages of frozen food from Norway. They are terrified of losing "face" and making it seem like they are not in perfect control of their institutions.

 

 

3 hours ago, Patient Warrior said:

Highly agree with your point here. Sounds like some resident-evil type stuff but often art mimics life I suppose. 

Governments have been weaponizing viruses for a long time. The Soviet Union had an Anthrax program back in the day and had an accidental release in a city where the weaponized strain of the virus was being manufactured. People definitely died but we only learned about it fairly recently, iirc. I'm sure that the US is also working on biological materials for warfare, because the US complains about other countries doing it and we know that everything the American govt complains about other countries doing is usually projection. Biological weapons programs were one of the excuses that the US used to invade and occupy Iraq back in 2003.

 

 

3 hours ago, Patient Warrior said:

remember a scientist on Joe Rogan's podcast during the initial stages of lock down said and I'm paraphrasing; "Creating a vaccine for covid-19 is extremely easy. It's the lasting effects that need time to be studied and tested on many subjects over a time".

I also recall the J&J vaccine was built on a pre-existing SARS like virus that's similar to Covid-19 thus the formula was already sort of present.

Off topic but could I also get your thoughts on the SPARS document released by Hopkins university?

I think that may have been one of the Weinstein brothers. I remember hearing him, whichever one he was, talking about certain features that the virus had that indicated that it had been engineered by humans somehow.

I got the Pfizer vaccine. I wasn't going to at first because it was not approved yet by the FDA but when I saw that my mom and sister had gotten it and had no problems, I decided that I'd rather take the risk than continue to have to wear a mask around everywhere and have foggy glasses.

I have to throw some laundry in the dryer but I'll take a look at the document. I do think it's weird that Bill Gates and others had been wargaming out a pandemic prior to the beginning of Covid19 in something called "Event 201", but I try not to let my paranoia get the best of me. A lot of people are saying that the pandemic was intentionally started by the democrat party in America to allow them to "steal the election". I don't put much faith into that, because it's too easy of an explanation and they're trying to explain away why Trump lost.

[Haji 2003]

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Only 52% of Republicans said they were partially or fully vaccinated, and 29% said they have no intention of getting a vaccine, according to a CBS News/YouGov poll. 77% of Democrats said they were already vaccinated, with just 5% responding that were resisting the vaccine.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/20/us-covid-delta-variant-spreads-vaccination-rates-drop

[Abu Nur]

I just took two days ago the first vaccine, waiting for the second one.

[Diaz]

Delta COVID is in majority of the countries, pls be careful even if u r already vaccinated. May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) protect us all.

[Haji 2003]

 

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[Haji 2003]

 

[Hameedeh]

You cannot get COVID-19 from any COVID-19 vaccine. People who tell you that the vaccine is dangerous are trying to scare you away from getting the vaccine. 

Parents need this info for their children and teens:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/adolescents.html

[Hameedeh]

Dr. Anthony Fauci said today that it is "likely" that everyone will need a COVID booster shot, but another dose is "imminent" for some, especially immunocompromised people. 

Looking to understand what that means, here is summary of ways to improve your immune system:

Ways to Boost Your Immune System

A few lifestyle changes and new habits can naturally keep your immune system strong and healthy:

• Eat a balanced diet
• Get enough sleep
• Exercise regularly
• Wash your hands
• Keep up with your vaccines
• Maintain a healthy weight
• Don’t smoke
• Try to minimize stress

Your immune system is the key to good health, so the more you can do to protect it, the better.

[Haji 2003]

News from Israel is not good. 
 

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As new infections soared, so did the long tail of hospitalisations. Even though the unvaccinated were five to six times as likely to end up seriously ill, the vaccine’s protection was waning fastest for the oldest — the most vulnerable — who got their first jabs as early as December.

At this rate, health officials predicted at least 5,000 people would need hospital beds by early September, half of them with serious medical needs, twice as many as Israel is equipped to handle.

https://www.ft.com/content/c21e2053-0373-4b8e-80b7-fad10f235604

 

Apparently they went maskless for a while. but now masks are back in. Vaccines may make the coming winter a bit easier than the last one, but perhaps not too much.

[Haji 2003]

On 8/12/2021 at 10:20 PM, Hameedeh said:

Dr. Anthony Fauci said today that it is "likely" that everyone will need a COVID booster shot, but another dose is "imminent" for some, especially immunocompromised people. 

There's going to be a real practical and ethical dilemma for rich countries. Give their people boosters and let the developing countries have none at all, and likely have more variants developing in richer countries?

[Son of Placid]

7 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

There's going to be a real practical and ethical dilemma for rich countries. Give their people boosters and let the developing countries have none at all, and likely have more variants developing in richer countries?

Our PM has preordered until 2024. I'm sure it will be mandated by then, passports n all.

[Haji 2003]

 

[Abdul-Hadi]

On 8/17/2021 at 12:19 AM, Haji 2003 said:

 

Yeah it's bad down here. Our governor is mismanaging it critically and is pushing something called "monoclonal antibody treatment" because he got a "donation" (read: bribe) from the CEO of a company that offers this sort of treatment.

Doesn't surprise me one bit. My country is the height of human corruption.

[Haji 2003]

13 hours ago, Abdul-Hadi said:

Yeah it's bad down here.

Looks as if it is this bad:

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

Two die in Japan after shots from suspended Moderna vaccines - Japan govt

Japan suspends 1.6 mln doses of Moderna shot after contamination reports

Contaminated Moderna vaccines to have little impact on Japan’s rollout, Suga says

Foreign substance detected in Moderna vaccine in Japan may be metal

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/two-die-japan-after-shots-suspended-moderna-vaccines-japan-govt-2021-08-28/

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/japan-withdraws-16-mln-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-doses-over-contamination-nikkei-2021-08-25/

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/08/26/national/science-health/moderna-vaccinations-suspended/

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/08/27/national/moderna-contamination-metal/

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2021/08/7fb949bf9198-urgent-unused-moderna-vaccine-doses-may-contain-foreign-materials-japan.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/26/japan-pulls-1point6-million-moderna-vaccine-doses-over-contamination-concerns-.html

https://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235065825-viruses-vaccinations/?page=15&tab=comments#comment-3359937

[Haji 2003]

Looks like more lockdowns on the way.

 

[Haji 2003]

Very informative paper about masks and other means of staying safe. The source is the American Association for the Advancement of Science, so very credible:

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Universal masking is an effective and economical way to block virus-laden aerosols (67). Model simulations show that masks effectively prevent asymptomatic transmission and reduce the total number of infected individuals as well as mortalities as a result of COVID-19 (176). It is crucial to optimize the allocation of masks (177). Surgical masks have been shown to reduce the release of influenza virus, seasonal human coronaviruses, and rhinovirus in aerosols <5 μm into the air by infected individuals by up to 100% (104, 178), although for some individuals there was no reduction; and masks are more effective for limiting droplets (179). Masks made of combinations of different fabrics and/or multiple layers, when worn properly with no leaks, can block up to 90% of particles between 0.5 and 10 μm (179). Small gaps between the mask material and skin can lead to substantial decreases in the overall filtration efficiency. For aerosols <2.5 μm, filtration efficiency decreases by 50% for a relative leak area of 1% (180). A study compared the viral filtration efficiency of N95, surgical, and fabric masks using a model virus and found that the efficiency of N95 and some surgical masks exceeded 99%; all fabric masks tested were at least 50% efficient (181). The effectiveness of N95, surgical, and cotton masks in blocking SARS-CoV-2–containing aerosols has been investigated using manikins placed face-to-face. N95 respirators demonstrated the highest efficiency in blocking infectious SARS-CoV-2 (182). Almost all masks offer at least some protection, but they are not 100% effective. Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 has occurred in health care settings despite medical masks (designed for droplets not aerosols) and eye protection (183–185), which illustrates the need for proper personal protective equipment (PPE) and layering multiple interventions against airborne transmission, especially in high-risk indoor settings.

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/373/6558/eabd9149.full