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2 hours ago, Qambar1 said:

Blood clots are rare side effects of Astrazeneca Vaccine (few cases out of millions).Besides Aspirin is NSAID's,using it post vaccinationin is counterproductive.Vaccines work best when they can trigger immune reaction in our body and Aspirin/Ibuprofen will prevent same to happen

Blood clot cases are very rare but vaccine hesitancy created due to it is much more. 

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This post is not referring to people who experienced medical problems when they were ill with covid-19. Of course they experienced some severe medical problems and died from complications. May Allah comfort their family and friends.

After receiving a covid-19 vaccine, there were a few reports of tachycardia (rapid heart rate), hyperventilation (rapid breathing), dyspnea (difficulty breathing), chest pain, paresthesia (numbness or tingling), light-headedness, hypotension (low blood pressure), headache, pallor, or syncope (fainting). These were probably all related to anxiety that people were experiencing before they received the vaccine. 

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On 4/30/2021 at 4:01 PM, Sirius_Bright said:

There's no stopping here in India. New record of 400k cases in a single day. 

On the positive side, Mumbai is seeing downwards trend in positive cases for last 10 days. 

Never know what's true anymore. 
I heard the government sent or sold treatment packages to all the people during the first wave.

I heard they promoted OTC vitamins and medications until the vaccine was out.
I heard people were falling/dying in the streets. The problem with the article was the picture that went with the headline was a pic of a man laying on the street but was from another time and place. We can't even trust the media.

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15 hours ago, Hameedeh said:

This post is not referring to people who experienced medical problems when they were ill with covid-19. Of course they experienced some severe medical problems and died from complications. May Allah comfort their family and friends.

After receiving a covid-19 vaccine, there were a few reports of tachycardia (rapid heart rate), hyperventilation (rapid breathing), dyspnea (difficulty breathing), chest pain, paresthesia (numbness or tingling), light-headedness, hypotension (low blood pressure), headache, pallor, or syncope (fainting). These were probably all related to anxiety that people were experiencing before they received the vaccine. 

I posted on fb a while ago about the adverse reactions to the vaccine in Europe. A friend challenged the numbers and I admittedly did not have a credible source. It took me a while but I eventually found a credible source, the numbers had tripled, and the same friend wouldn't even look at them. Mindset...
EndraVigilance is the European equivalent to VAERS in the US. Follow the link from "release of data" 
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/human-regulatory/research-development/pharmacovigilance/eudravigilance#release-of-data-section 

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On 5/5/2021 at 8:35 AM, Sirius_Bright said:

https://m.timesofindia.com/city/lucknow/not-remdesivir-steroids-and-blood-thinners-saving-lives-from-covid-19-complications/amp_articleshow/82303806.cms

How about popping an Aspirin (for blood thinning) after taking vaccine. It could prevent potential blood clot. 

I'm still kinda laid up over here and spend a lot of time with my laptop on my lap top. Lots of time to waste finding credible sources. I say "waste" because people can't or won't read them anyway. 

I've dug up a lot of studies prior to 2020 that contradict the overwhelming amount of studies since. Even the best of medical journals are being corrupted since 2020. Shortly ago the NCBI editor in Chief published a study on the dangers of facemasks. It went in to detail on mental health as well as health issues from recirculating your own breath. Next thing you know, there's a new editor and chief who's fist act was to retract the study. Corruption at the highest levels.

I've come to the conclusion, thus far that it's not about our health so I looked to the doctors in related fields that are brave enough to publish their recommendations.
What I've come up with is not a cure, may not even prevent but will lessen the severity.
50mg B12, 1000mg C, 4000ui D, 4mg zinc, and aspirin 81. 
None of our medical "experts" will back that up. They insist vitamin D is not a cure. Nobody is saying it is a cure but their words are deterring people from boosting their immune system. I have yet to see mainstream media tell anyone to take their vitamins. It should have been the first recommendation and they should remind us continually. 

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3 hours ago, Son of Placid said:

What I've come up with is not a cure, may not even prevent but will lessen the severity.
50mg B12, 1000mg C, 4000ui D, 4mg zinc, and aspirin 81. 

I definitely believe that many health problems are exacerbated by bad nutrition. I take a multiVitamin every day, and always buy more before I run out of them. I take Vitamin B12 once a week for stress relief, because it is too expensive to take daily. I used to take 1000 mg of Vitamin C, but about two years ago I reduced it to 500 mg daily. I took Vitamin D3 once a week, but my doctor told me to take it daily. When I buy Zinc tablets, I have taken 10, 15, or 50 mg a day to ward off illness, whatever size I can find. 

I am also a firm believer in the health benefits of herbs and spices. I add small amounts (1/4 teaspoon) of these to my soup: chopped dried dill weed, chopped dried chives, chopped dried green and white onions, chopped dried parsley, minced garlic, black cumin seeds (Nigella Sativa), ground black pepper, ground ginger powder, ground brown cumin powder, ground turmeric powder, ground cinnamon powder, dried oregano leaves, etc. I also prefer to eat fresh spinach or lettuce (30 - 80 grams a serving) if I can find it or shredded broccoli in a small amount (30 grams). You can keep shredded broccoli in the freezer and pull out as much as you need. 

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On 5/6/2021 at 7:13 PM, Son of Placid said:

Never know what's true anymore. 
I heard the government sent or sold treatment packages to all the people during the first wave.

I heard they promoted OTC vitamins and medications until the vaccine was out.
I heard people were falling/dying in the streets. The problem with the article was the picture that went with the headline was a pic of a man laying on the street but was from another time and place. We can't even trust the media.

Hi , The main problem is corruption  of officials  & forming black market with their indirect support which most of medications & vitamins went to black market instead of people's hand which same as this we had blackmarket for alcohol & face mask at start of covid outbreak  in Iran but by fighting  with it we can overcome  the black market of sanitizers & face mask which I think black market is much worse in Indian medicine market due to existance of blood black  market in size of Mafia in India which even It's showed in some bollywood movie as propaganda  of Indian  government  for fighting with Mafia blood black market in India.

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On 5/6/2021 at 8:13 PM, Son of Placid said:

I heard people were falling/dying in the streets. The problem with the article was the picture that went with the headline was a pic of a man laying on the street but was from another time and place. We can't even trust the media

I'm not sure if you saw any video because there was one video floating around which had people falling on the streets. That was an old video of the Gas leak tragedy. However, the spike in the case was so sharp that the existing system was overwhelmed immediately and people had to wait outside. So many died waiting for ICU beds, ventilators and Oxygen. Many died due to shortage of Oxygen in hospitals. 

At such times, morals are tested. While many were donating, procuring medicines, oxygen, amplifying sos, some were hoarding essentials, overcharging patients. 

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On 5/8/2021 at 6:04 PM, Sirius_Bright said:

I'm not sure if you saw any video because there was one video floating around which had people falling on the streets. That was an old video of the Gas leak tragedy. However, the spike in the case was so sharp that the existing system was overwhelmed immediately and people had to wait outside. So many died waiting for ICU beds, ventilators and Oxygen. Many died due to shortage of Oxygen in hospitals. 

At such times, morals are tested. While many were donating, procuring medicines, oxygen, amplifying sos, some were hoarding essentials, overcharging patients. 

Two people I know have said their families in India have no idea what's going on. I don't know where they live exactly but it sounds like their area hasn't been touched by the virus.

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On 5/6/2021 at 3:00 PM, Hameedeh said:

I definitely believe that many health problems are exacerbated by bad nutrition. I take a multiVitamin every day, and always buy more before I run out of them. I take Vitamin B12 once a week for stress relief, because it is too expensive to take daily. I used to take 1000 mg of Vitamin C, but about two years ago I reduced it to 500 mg daily. I took Vitamin D3 once a week, but my doctor told me to take it daily. When I buy Zinc tablets, I have taken 10, 15, or 50 mg a day to ward off illness, whatever size I can find. 

I am also a firm believer in the health benefits of herbs and spices. I add small amounts (1/4 teaspoon) of these to my soup: chopped dried dill weed, chopped dried chives, chopped dried green and white onions, chopped dried parsley, minced garlic, black cumin seeds (Nigella Sativa), ground black pepper, ground ginger powder, ground brown cumin powder, ground turmeric powder, ground cinnamon powder, dried oregano leaves, etc. I also prefer to eat fresh spinach or lettuce (30 - 80 grams a serving) if I can find it or shredded broccoli in a small amount (30 grams). You can keep shredded broccoli in the freezer and pull out as much as you need. 

I've been researching herbs and spices. That's what we had before pills. I'm finding out some weeds are medicinal.

What bugs me...My go to flu medicine, Tincture of benzoin, was discontinued at the onset of the virus. Worst taste ever but it sticks those viruses to your trachea and lungs, teeth etc. and doesn't let them multiply or spread. 

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Martin McKee, a professor of European public health at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, said he and his colleagues are very worried.

“There are still many people, especially the young, those in disadvantaged areas, and those from ethnic minorities that are still unvaccinated. I am less concerned about meetings out of doors, as the risks there are low, but I will personally continue to avoid indoor meetings, such as restaurants, even though I am fully vaccinated.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/12/indian-covid-variant-calls-in-question-17-may-reopening-in-uk-say-experts

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BJP in India promoting this, didn't expect anything else:

 

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15 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

BJP in India promoting this, didn't expect anything else:

 

BJP and their followers are mostly unscientific idiots. They also believe in cow urine, cow dung, paapad, some kind of mantra, etc. as a way to ward off corona. 

The only inhaling steam I know is hot water with Vicks for clogged nose and chest.

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12 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

BJP in India promoting this, didn't expect anything else:

 

Think I'd have more faith in the 1980s automotive oil fill funnel blast, the others look like nebulizers. That's not how nebulizers work, that just looks goofy. 


 

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4 hours ago, Son of Placid said:

No funding for vaccines if there's a treatment, right?

It won't stop the virus it just makes breathing easier as the doctor in the video explains, likely for those who are on a ventilator.

While authorities can regulate who gets this in US/Europe, in countries like Pakistan/India, it literally is a free market. If you think something will work you go to the pharmacy and buy it.

https://newsable.asianetnews.com/video/coronavirus-world/explained-is-dexamethasone-life-saving-does-it-stop-covid-vpn-qt4y6p

India is a salutary lesson for those who believed we could make it out of this without social distancing and vaccines and with various quack cures.

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6 hours ago, Son of Placid said:

No funding for vaccines if there's a treatment, right?

Hi even if they had total cure for it they wouldn't  release it it before selling a mass amount of vaccines  for at least doubling benefit  of drug companies  from this cisis.

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3 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

While authorities can regulate who gets this in US/Europe, in countries like Pakistan/India, it literally is a free market. If you think something will work you go to the pharmacy and buy it. 

It is a free market but government can regulate it. Remdesivir was regulated by many states so that it can be purchased only in hospital with doctor's prescription because some people were hoarding it for themselves or black marketing.

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Cyclone Tautke causing havoc along with covid. Currently, along the coast of Mumbai, there's heavy rain, trees uprooted and 100+ km/hr wind speed. It would move to Gujarat in the evening where it would be much more severe.

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On 5/16/2021 at 10:26 PM, Son of Placid said:

No funding for vaccines if there's a treatment, right?

In the United States, the vaccine is free. 

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18 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Hi even if they had total cure for it they wouldn't  release it it before selling a mass amount of vaccines  for at least doubling benefit  of drug companies  from this cisis.

I have found many medications, not cures but lessen the severity. Studies will be done next year. 

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4 hours ago, notme said:

In the United States, the vaccine is free. 

 

It's free here too but we will pay for it in many other ways.
What I meant was there is not supposed to be research and development funding if there is a treatment available. 

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On 5/17/2021 at 2:42 AM, Haji 2003 said:

It won't stop the virus it just makes breathing easier as the doctor in the video explains, likely for those who are on a ventilator.

While authorities can regulate who gets this in US/Europe, in countries like Pakistan/India, it literally is a free market. If you think something will work you go to the pharmacy and buy it.

https://newsable.asianetnews.com/video/coronavirus-world/explained-is-dexamethasone-life-saving-does-it-stop-covid-vpn-qt4y6p

India is a salutary lesson for those who believed we could make it out of this without social distancing and vaccines and with various quack cures.

Quack cures popping up everywhere. Indian steam is a good example. It maintains the narrative that there is no cure, we are in a hopeless situation without a vaccine. Feel cornered? You're supposed to. Don't forget that the people promoting it reject Allah, aka God.

That is the main argument. Someone says there are treatments, authorities dismiss it saying it's not a cure. Kevin Trudeau, an American loud mouth, got in trouble for saying oranges "cure" scurvy. There is no such thing as a "cure" in the USA or Canada. A cure would stop funding right now. Cure is a bad, bad word in the medical industry. "Possible treatment for covid" is also a bad word. It's all about a jab they call a vaccine. Vaccines mean immunity except for this round. It means lessened severity if you live through it, kinda like a treatment without the serious side effects. Europe was over 460K adverse side effects now, 13K dead, but it's all coincidence, right?

Treatments can help you through the virus and leave you with natural antibodies. That is how Allah designed us. We are foolish to think man can synthetically do better. Let's not forget that the synthetic portion of the injection is patented. If the law works the same as it did for Monsanto, they own a part of you. As weird as that may sound, don't dismiss that thought. Thinking it was a stupid thought destroyed more than a few American farmers. If you think there is no connection, why is Bill Gates the guy who owns more farm land than any farmer in the US? 

Like it, don't like it, don't matter.  We are headed for a one world governance. The narrative will force it's way through. Neither Christian nor Islamic logic will stop it.  

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17 hours ago, Son of Placid said:

If the law works the same as it did for Monsanto, they own a part of you

No they don't. I am completely against what Monsanto did with seeds, but there's no basis in making links between that and a vaccine.

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We are headed for a one world governance.

Of course we are. We started off living in small family groups and then organised ourselves into villages, towns, cities, and nation states.

Then we started with international bodies like the UN, EU etc.

One world government is part of human evolution - bring it on! 

Crises like climate change and coronavirus show how important global governance is. There's no point in having rich countries vaccinated if the virus mutates in poor ones.

I think a world government that offers nation states the power to set certain laws in keeping with local culture and tradition is the way to go.

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On 5/17/2021 at 4:26 AM, Son of Placid said:

BREAKING NEWS! Actually it's almost a year old and I just found it.
Unfortunate it wasn't a headline almost a year ago.

No funding for vaccines if there's a treatment, right?

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/coronavirus-disease-covid-19-dexamethasone

 

This is from a story about large numbers of Indian covid patients falling prey to black fungus.

The culprit?

 

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The World Health Organization advises coronavirus patients receive a daily dose of 6mg of dexamethasone, a corticosteroid, or its equivalent for seven to 10 days to reduce mortality in patients that are critically or severely ill. “I’ve seen prescriptions of up to 500mg a day. It’s not uncommon,” said Pinto, adding that often patients in India were prescribed steroids for as long as a month.

https://www.ft.com/content/62342a95-41a1-432f-9bcc-58d344bdcc4f

 

As I said previously places like India show what can happen when 'miracle' cures that authorities use with great care in the West are just dished out. The article highlights problems with the extensive use of antibiotics - which is another time bomb waiting to go off.

 

This is a reader comment from the above story:

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My fathers friends (most of whom live in India and are doctors) will spout all kinds of garbage, ranging from how COVID is a biological weapon that’s targeting India, to using azithromycin as a potential cure.

If such hare-brained theories are floating around in the Indian medical world, I shudder to think what hope the average man holds in his fight against this virus.

 

 

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On 5/21/2021 at 8:51 AM, Sirius_Bright said:

black fungus

What is this? New virus?

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Mucormycosis: What to Know

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Mucormycosis, also known as black fungus, is a rare but dangerous infection. It's caused by a group of molds called mucormycetes and often affects the sinuses, lungs, skin, and brain

https://www.webmd.com/lung/mucormycosis-black-fungus-infection

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19 hours ago, Diaz said:

What is this? New virus?

It is a fungus (different than a virus) and nothing new. It is found in our surroundings, in mud, damped wall, etc. and then it could transfer through other things.

Normally our immune system fights it off before it could cause complications. However, it is dangerous for immunocompromised individuals. After a severe Covid infection, an individual's immunity is weakened and the fungi get the chance to attack the patient, a diabetic patient is even more susceptible. The fungus is dangerous in terms of mortality and treatment is expensive.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucormycosis

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7 hours ago, Sirius_Bright said:

It is a fungus (different than a virus) and nothing new. It is found in our surroundings, in mud, damped wall, etc. and then it could transfer through other things.

Normally our immune system fights it off before it could cause complications. However, it is dangerous for immunocompromised individuals. After a severe Covid infection, an individual's immunity is weakened and the fungi get the chance to attack the patient, a diabetic patient is even more susceptible. The fungus is dangerous in terms of mortality and treatment is expensive.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucormycosis

My sister friend who is Indian said people are turning into zombies, like their skin is becoming darker, their eyes is becoming white etc just like zombies, is that true? 
 

edit:- just now I checked that link above, I think that’s what she meant. Thanks for the info and pls stay safe brother. I hope u got ur vaccine. 

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1 hour ago, Diaz said:

My sister friend who is Indian said people are turning into zombies, like their skin is becoming darker, their eyes is becoming white etc just like zombies, is that true? 

lol I think you're exagerating. Saying they turn into zombies implies that the disease somehow controlls the infected person's brain and that they will start to chase and eat us, which has never happened in history :hahaha:. I think it's more accurate to say that they just appear more sick or even more like a corpse. You can see them with black dead tissue on the nose and eyes, and also huge scabs on the skin.

I've studied this "black fungus", scientifically Mucormycosis. It affects the orbital cavity and nasal sinuses from which it can enter and cause meningoencefalitis and even thrombosis (so it's true that it affects the brain, but it only damages it, there's no posession of the person). It can also affect the lungs, as well as the digestive system. Overall it's a pretty ugly disease, if you search in google images you'll be disgusted.

It's also true that it affects more people that already have health problems, like diabetes and probably covid.

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