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42 minutes ago, baqar said:

Is it absolutely accurate according to Shia scholars? 

no

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11 hours ago, baqar said:

Is it absolutely accurate according to Shia scholars? 

Shia scholars who wrote on the Prophet’s Life are not authentic or accurate according to earliest sources.  

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9 hours ago, eThErEaL said:

Shia scholars who wrote on the Prophet’s Life are not authentic or accurate according to earliest sources.  

What are the accurate works of Prophet life? 

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9 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

What are the accurate works of Prophet life? 

I have been realizing more and more that The Prophetic Presence (S) is not really that strong in the Shiite world.  I hope I am WRONG about this, and God knows best.   Now, I don’t know why this is the case exactly but this is an indication that I wouldn’t recommend Shia Works for learning about the Prophet (S).

I like “Martin Lings”.  I don’t call it accurate or inaccurate as it is not for me to judge.  But he makes an attempt to base the work on the earliest sources available.  It is a pretty blessed biography in my opinion.  

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I like “Martin Lings”.  I don’t call it accurate or inaccurate as it is not for me to judge.  But he makes an attempt to base the work on the earliest sources available.  It is a pretty blessed biography in my opinion.  

I also have the book, It is very well written and easy to follow. I realized that the only way to seek the truth in this situation is to look at the different Prophet (saws) events and get much information possible and different viewpoint about them. This is why I'm interested to read from both sources.

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36 minutes ago, Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi said:

This Book is weak according to Sunni sources

Yes but that's their hadith scholars who weaken literary giants like Abu mikhanaf and ibn kalbi 

Hadith scholars pander their sectarian agenda they are not reliable historians 

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1 hour ago, Panzerwaffe said:

Yes but that's their hadith scholars who weaken literary giants like Abu mikhanaf and ibn kalbi 

Hadith scholars pander their sectarian agenda they are not reliable historians 

Then all ilm-ur-rijal becomes un-reliable since hadith scholors were
just making up things supporting there view

Then you people have no right to say anything about Kitab Sulaim bin Qais.

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There have been famous Shia historians who have analyzed these works and histories in depth. To dismiss Shia academic work on history is not appropriate. And to accept blindly everything narrated by Sunni historians is futile as well. Exspecially since at times they were sponsored by the abbasids as example. There are some works in english on seerah nabi but I am no academic historian to claim everything in those works, in the end we trust experts in the field and search for those exeprts.

 

Ibn ishaq seerah has been messed with by ibn hisham who removed the pro Ahlul Bayt materials

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5 hours ago, Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi said:

Then all ilm-ur-rijal becomes un-reliable since hadith scholors were
just making up things supporting there view

Then you people have no right to say anything about Kitab Sulaim bin Qais.

" You people "???

I have nothing against KSBQ 

It's a work to judged on its merits 

And neither rijal nor seerah is a perfect science 

There are a lot of gaps due to scarcity of primary contemporary sources 

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17 hours ago, Rohani said:

There have been famous Shia historians who have analyzed these works and histories in depth. To dismiss Shia academic work on history is not appropriate. And to accept blindly everything narrated by Sunni historians is futile as well. Exspecially since at times they were sponsored by the abbasids as example. There are some works in english on seerah nabi but I am no academic historian to claim everything in those works, in the end we trust experts in the field and search for those exeprts.

 

Ibn ishaq seerah has been messed with by ibn hisham who removed the pro Ahlul Bayt materials

I heard scholors along with some references that
Seerah of Muhammad Ibn ishaq was narrated to Ibn hisham by Al Bukai

And Muhammad ibn Ishaq himself has alot of troubles
Many experts called him kazaab

And Bukai also has troubles

And then comes the chain of narrations within the book

Such a book is nothing
But TS and others will quote anything from these books
But when we use KItab Sulaim Bin Qais
They'll find faults in it and say we only use fabrications.

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Wa alaykom salaam, when it comes to history an expert must recontruct the history they don’t just blindly narrate it. It is a very big task.

 

As for kitab sulaym ibn qays some argue there are some issues with the book, and that there has been some alteration or change and it is not the original book. 

 

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Salaam, has anyone read “Muhammad: Man of God” by Seyyed Hossein Nasr.

Would you recommend it? I have heard he uses both Shiite and Sunni sources, himself being a Shiite.

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This is a great work by Shaykh Rasul Jafariyan, one of the top Shi'i scholars of today in history: https://www.amazon.ca/Life-Messenger-Part-One-Political/dp/B087L3JPH2/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=muhammad+rasul&qid=1594577290&sr=8-1

This too by Ayatollah Jaffer Subhani: https://www.al-islam.org/message-jafar-subhani

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19 minutes ago, AStruggler said:

^ This is a link to a good biography of the Holy Prophet SA. You can also read the PDF here: https://www.al-islam.org/printpdf/book/export/html/16394

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I recommend reading Al Sahih Min Sirat Al Nabi Al Azam/الصحيح من سيرة النبي الاعظم (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) by Sayid Jafar Murtada al Amili

Here is a link to the download for the PDF (the book is arabic)

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=https://www.aljawadain.org/book-library-details.php%3Fid%3D724%26cat%3D283&prev=search&pto=aue

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1 hour ago, Ansur Shiat Ali said:

I recommend reading Al Sahih Min Sirat Al Nabi Al Azam/الصحيح من سيرة النبي الاعظم (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) by Sayid Jafar Murtada al Amili

Here is a link to the download for the PDF (the book is arabic)

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=https://www.aljawadain.org/book-library-details.php%3Fid%3D724%26cat%3D283&prev=search&pto=aue

I am reading bits of it right now it's quite lengthy in terms of volumes, however, the introduction is great when listing the many disastrous characteristics attributed to the Holy Prophet (saww) thank you very much for sharing brother. JazakAllah.

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18 hours ago, Mohammad313Ali said:

I am reading bits of it right now it's quite lengthy in terms of volumes, however, the introduction is great when listing the many disastrous characteristics attributed to the Holy Prophet (saww) thank you very much for sharing brother. JazakAllah.

Your welcome! Jazak Allah

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On 1/24/2020 at 6:21 AM, Fleabreezy said:

Salaam ‘alaykum.

May Allah reward you for having intention to learn more about His Prophet (صل الله عليه و اله وسلم) and give you tawfiq to adopt his characteristics and ways. The Best of Creation (صل الله عليه واله و سلم) is the best example for us to follow and may Allah increase your love for him and your imaan increase and devotion to the Nabi’s Lord, also, when you read his biography.

The most comprehensive seerah of the Nabi (صل الله عليه واله وسلم) I have come across (from twelver resources, in English) is Hayat al-Qulub from Allama Baqir al-Majlisi.

https://www.al-Islam.org/hayat-al-qulub-vol-2-Muhammad-Baqir-majlisi

Salam is there any summary or audiobook of this as it will take me years to read this? Jzk 

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Salam. Nice topic, thanks.

There are a lot of, repeat, a lot of books written by shiite islamic scholars on the holy life of the Prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)&hp) written in Arabic, Persian, Turkish, Urdu languages. But sadly English translations are few.

I recommend these books written by Shi'ite Muslim scholars;

Message - Grand Ayatollah Jafar Sobhani (It is available in English as well. Link provided above.)

Hayat al Qulub - Allama Majlisi (It is available in English as well. Link provided above.)

Prophet of Mercy - Grand Ayatollah Abdollah Javadi-Amoli (I don't know if it is available in English)

Holy Light - Grand Ayatollah Imam Khamenei (I don't know if it is available in English)

Muhammad (s) - Ibrahim Hassan Baigi (I don't know if it is available in English)

That which that Orphan saw - Mohammad Reza Sarshar (It is available in English. It was a radio show at first. Imam Khamenei praised the host and told him if it took 20 years for him to complete this work, it was worth it. So the writer took his time completing the show and the book. It became  a best seller in the Islamic Republic.)

Analytical History of Islam - Seyed Jafar Shahidi (It is two volumes. First volume is all about Prophet Muhammad. Second volume is about caliphs and umayyad dynasty. I don't know if available in English. You can look it up.)

A Zephyr from the Morals of Prophet Mohammad (s) - Hemmat Sohrabpoor (I don't know if available in English. You can look it up.)

The Life of the Prophet (s) - Seyed Ali Mousavi Garmaroudi

There are also some works written by Turkish shiite muslim writers such as;

The Life of Prophet Muhammad (2 volumes) by Hasan Kanaatlı

The City of Knowledge by Şener Danyıldız (He has another book called The Gate of Knowledge which is about Imam Ali)

The Last King by Habib Mert (It is a literary work)

The Rain of Mercy by Muharrem Uçan (Tells the life of the prophet quoting the hadiths of 12 Imams). Same author has another book called

Beams of the Sun which is also about the life of the Holy Prophet. But I don't think they will ever be translated into English. But who knows.

Also this is what I just found on the net in English but I have not read it yet.

https://www.al-islam.org/brief-history-muhammad-abolfazl-sabouri

And this one is by a sunni writer and I still suggest it;

The Jurisprudence of the Prophetic Biography - Muhammad Sa'id Ramadan al-Būti (He was a revered Syrian Kurdish Sunni shcholar who supported Assad government, thus he was martyred by the wahhabis. Anyway, I read this book. I like it how he narrates and incident and then lists the lessons that can be derived from it. Apart from just a few cliche matters that is different from the shia view, the book in general is useful.)

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The usouli (orthodox / mainstream) shiite Muslim scholars residing in the Western Asia, namely shiite Arabs, Persians, Pakistanis, Indians, Turks etc. have a lot of works on the life of the Holy Prophet. But they don't have the means to make dawah to the west. I mean, you see, the Hawza in Qom is sanctioned now by the West. So, they can't be active preaching Islam and Islamic Revolution to the West. Sahar TV English and other Iranian religious channels were taken down by the western regimes. But the very same regimes give every means, tv channels and opportunity to their MI6 Akhbaris. And what would the akhbaris do? Talk about the life of the Prophet? Of course not! They will only curse sunnis as well as mainstream shiites.

Anyway, I hope that you guys, living in the west, can have the budget and opportunity to translate all these amazing shiite works on the life of the holy prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) , irfaan, ikhlaas, etc. into English.

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