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China will rewrite the Qur'an & the Bible

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This world has finally come to an end

we have these devils who are trying to alter the Qur'an and remove anything that is against their communism. 

Even if they do change the Holy Book, our religion Islam will never be destroyed and the book of Allah will never vanish. Allah has protected it for more than 1400 years so there is absolutely nothing these filthy scumbags can do. 

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7824541/China-rewrite-Bible-Qur'an-reflect-socialist-values.html

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Come on I'm sure we can focus on the actions rather than poke fun at their food and names lol 

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This sounds a bit like fake news. Only Western outlets are reporting on this at a time when the West is backing Wahhabi–Salafi militants in Xinjiang and feudal separatists in Tibet, while spreading pro-Zionist versions of religion, including Protestant Christianity, in order to effect a Hong Kong-style colour-revolution in China, in accord with the Trump administration’s economic and foreign policies against Chinese influence. The West engages in similar subversive activities in Iran and elsewhere, so the trends in the media reflect PSYOPs geared toward misleading Muslims and others. Also, your comments about Chinese being “disgusting and uncivilised” sounds more than a bit Orientalist.

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As much as I admire as-Sayyid al-Khomeini (رضي الله عنه) and his Islamic revolution and uprising, I fail to believe Iran is like it was under him. Why is the Islamic Republic silent? Should they not support their brothers and sisters in China? I in no way support or endorse Yasser Habib at all, but I have to agree with him that Iran is not doing the right thing by staying quiet about the events in China.

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1 minute ago, Soldiers and Saffron said:

Do you think Iran alone can handle opening up a conflict with both the west and the east at the same time? Its already busy fighting half of planet Earth on its own.

When theres even Shias who burn the Iranian flag with Allah on it, can Iran and the struggling Iranian citizens alone fight both west and east at the same time? If the Muslims united we could for sure confront them with sanctions and geographical trade blockades, but as it stands now we are not united at all whatsoever.

Now lets not try and derail a thread about China supposedly rewriting the Qur'an and Bible into a thread about Iran, even though I know a lot of people would love that.

Regardless, Iran still has the responsibility as a Muslim government to condemn China's actions, which it has not done at all yet. It has a voice but hasn't used it and chooses to stay silent. Such powerful words against Amrika all the time, but never anything about China.. :dry:

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44 minutes ago, Husayni said:

Regardless, Iran still has the responsibility as a Muslim government to condemn China's actions, which it has not done at all yet. It has a voice but hasn't used it and chooses to stay silent. Such powerful words against Amrika all the time, but never anything about China.. :dry:

For the first time, all Muslim countries are united.. in supporting China cracking down on ughyur Muslims while non-Muslim countries are condemning it. Irony! 

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1 hour ago, Husayni said:

As much as I admire as-Sayyid al-Khomeini (رضي الله عنه) and his Islamic revolution and uprising, I fail to believe Iran is like it was under him. Why is the Islamic Republic silent? Should they not support their brothers and sisters in China? I in no way support or endorse Yasser Habib at all, but I have to agree with him that Iran is not doing the right thing by staying quiet about the events in China.

Personaly even if I think Chinese government is not "Muslim friendly" I have some doubts about what medias say about Xinjiang. I have the feelings that there at least some exagérations of what is it happening. 

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5 hours ago, Sirius_Bright said:

For the first time, all Muslim countries are united.. in supporting China cracking down on ughyur Muslims while non-Muslim countries are condemning it. Irony! 

Well I hope What I’m seeing Rn is false

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps#Reactions_by_other_countries

Turns out non Muslim countries r actually against them

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2 hours ago, Mohammadi_follower said:

Personaly even if I think Chinese government is not "Muslim friendly" I have some doubts about what medias say about Xinjiang. I have the feelings that there at least some exagérations of what is it happening. 

What I don’t get is this. Why would this all be some fake news. My dad says the same thing for some strange reason. We have children crying for their fathers and mothers begging the Chinese government to take them out. We have leaked documents of that filthy scum bag who ordered brutal punishment of Muslims and other ppl of faith. We have ughyur Muslims fleeing concentration camps and sharing their experiences of rape and torture. In what way could this be all some exaggeration. 

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This signed statement is news to me.

Let's remember it's the countries' governments that signed and supported not the people. 

I wonder what our own 'Islamic' governments have to say about this. 

 

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This is nuts! 

Signed by:

Algeria, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Egypt, the Islamic Republic of Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, the Syrian Arab Republic, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, the State of Palestine and many more! 

 

"We commend China’s remarkable achievements in the field of human rights by adhering to the people-centered development philosophy and protecting and promoting human rights through development. We also appreciate China’s contributions to the international human rights cause.

We take note that terrorism, separatism and religious extremism has caused enormous damage to people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang, which has seriously infringed upon human rights, including right to life, health and development. Faced with the grave challenge of terrorism and extremism, China has undertaken a series of counter-terrorism and deradicalization measures in Xinjiang, including setting up vocational education and training centers. Now safety and security has returned to Xinjiang and the fundamental human rights of people of all ethnic groups there are safeguarded. The past three consecutive years has seen not a single terrorist attack in Xinjiang and people there enjoy a stronger sense of happiness, fulfillment and security. We note with appreciation that human rights are respected and protected in China in the process of counter-terrorism and deradicalization."

 

https://ap.ohchr.org/documents/E/HRC/c_gov/A_HRC_41_G_17.DOCX

 

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5 hours ago, 3wliya_maryam said:

This world has finally come to an end

we have these devils who are trying to alter the Qur'an and remove anything that is against their communism. 

And We have certainly made the Qur'an easy for remembrance, so is there any who will remember? (54:17)

Qur'an is protected through oral tradition. We have many Hafiz institutions. Let them change what they want. It means nothing.

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8 hours ago, 3wliya_maryam said:

What I don’t get is this. Why would this all be some fake news. My dad says the same thing for some strange reason. We have children crying for their fathers and mothers begging the Chinese government to take them out. We have leaked documents of that filthy scum bag who ordered brutal punishment of Muslims and other ppl of faith. We have ughyur Muslims fleeing concentration camps and sharing their experiences of rape and torture. In what way could this be all some exaggeration. 

Firstly West is just basically a concurrent or even an enemy of China so trying to destabilize a country with ethnic minorities is a good strategy for weaken them very profoundly. 

Secondly I am someone very interested about history and culture of Turkish people and as such I had been for a long time concerned about uyghur people even before these persecutions happened and became proclaimed in many world news. And I was very closed to many uygur activists. Well I realized step by step that many of them were very silent toward terrorist attacks which happened before Chinese crackdown in these region and many have also indépendantist thoughts. This is I think a minority but that was not so uncommon to see also some or them having very racist feelings toward Han Chinese. 

Now am I saying that China is a perfect place for Muslims and 100% of what we say about Xinjiang is false? Not at all. This is highly sure that Chinese leaders have no love Islam and for uyghur culture in the same way. 

Am I saying that there probably some exagérations about what is happening in Xinjiang and some facts are hiding and are not forcely black and white as we could think? Yes indeed. Now again I insist for saying that I am just someone searching the truth and only Allah knows really what is really happening. 

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Though the Bible and Qur'an were not mentioned specifically, the party called for a 'comprehensive evaluation of the existing religious classics aiming at contents which do not conform to the progress of the times'. 

The order was given in November during a meeting held by the Committee for Ethnic and Religious Affairs of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, which oversees the ethnic and religious matters in China. 

Salam,

I am confident that if anyone try to figure out "which religious text conform to the progress of the times" with true sincerity, He will find that it is the Holy Qur'an which conform to the progress of the times. Whoever want to do it with the intention of animosity and try to amend or bring any change in the scripture/divine commands, will face humiliation. May it be China, America or any other so called power of the world.

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9 hours ago, Moalfas said:

We take note that terrorism, separatism and religious extremism has caused enormous damage to people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang, which has seriously infringed upon human rights,

Salam also from this document 

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What they saw and heard in Xinjiang completely contradicted what was reported in the media. We call on relevant countries to refrain from employing unfounded charges against China based on unconfirmed information before they visit Xinjiang. 

I'm not denying oppression of Chinese government against Uighurs but all so called Sunni or Uighur activists are hiding activities of pro Wahabi & pro Ottomans  between Uighurs that they are spreading false Idea of making ' east Turkistan state ' by separation from China & also training new generation of ISIS fighters from them that we can now some traces of these new fighters in Idlib of Syria also establishing this false state will increase threat to all Muslims that will be new anti Iran base under control of coalition of pro wahabists & pro Ottomans also China just showed positive side of their camps like as it shows some media so Iran prefers a Muslim controlled area under china surveillance than a radical Islamic state that will be another threat against Iran under influence of Pro ottomans & pro Wahhabists also oppression of China is not comparable with oppression of Anti Shia governments from 1400 years ago until now that still we see it in Yemen but it highly ignores by majority of Muslims but currently radical groups are using victim card of oppression of Uighurs for fullfiling their agenda although Iran was from first Muslim countries that supported Palestine although until now Palestinians prefer Sunni Arab countries over Iran even these countries are not firm against Israel & KSA becomes an ally of Israel.

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It's funny how all of a sudden everyone's defending the Chinese and their concentration camps.

Whatever happened to Islamic principles?

Let this be a wake up call to the ones pretending to be the 'saviours of the world' - 

Imam Mehdi AJF- the Real saviour of the world  would never agree to sign such a statement which supports and protects the injustice of the Chinese. Full stop. 

 

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49 minutes ago, Moalfas said:

It's funny how all of a sudden everyone's defending the Chinese and their concentration camps.

Whatever happened to Islamic principles?

Let this be a wake up call to the ones pretending to be the 'saviours of the world' - 

Imam Mehdi AJF- the Real saviour of the world  would never agree to sign such a statement which supports and protects the injustice of the Chinese. Full stop. 

 

I don’t defend China. I just said that I think the situation in Xijiang is probably not so manichean as we could think and by the way we don’t have the powers of Imam Zaman (ajf).

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1 hour ago, Moalfas said:

It's funny how all of a sudden everyone's defending the Chinese and their concentration camps.

Whatever happened to Islamic principles?

Let this be a wake up call to the ones pretending to be the 'saviours of the world' - 

Imam Mehdi AJF- the Real saviour of the world  would never agree to sign such a statement which supports and protects the injustice of the Chinese. Full stop. 

If 'Islamic Republic' was against China's crackdown, everyone here would be chanting 'Marg bar Chinese'. Funny how a brother was calling me bias and now himself defending a communist zaalim here. 

May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) guide us. 

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7 minutes ago, starlight said:

Doesn't matter if they aren't Shia Muslims, doesn't even matter if they are even Muslims. Even if it was an animal undergoing Zulm nothing should have changed in our minds.

They are humans who are facing oppression and are unable to defend themselves. 

Imam e Zamana (عليه السلام) when he comes,his mercy and justice won't be for Shia Muslims. He is 'Sahab e Asr e wa Zaman', Savior of Mankind and this includes Uighurs. 

But we have the power to find out bad it is and we certainly have the power and duty to condemn it even if there is one little bit of oppression. 

I could see at least that these crackdown stopped terrorist and separatist attacks in these province, this is already a good thing and we often forget this.

Now if chinese authority really tries to destroy uyghur culture and religion this is unacceptable but like I said I have some doubts about some accusation we do against china on such issue.

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