Advanced Member Maryam.It Posted October 12, 2019 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 Assalamu alaykum. Dawah in Shia is not an obligation right? And if is an obligation,or something to do,how we have to do it? Thankyou so much in advance and Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) forgive me if I wrote something wrong. Ashvazdanghe and AmirioTheMuzzy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member ali_fatheroforphans Posted October 12, 2019 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 If we manage to get non-Muslims to attend Arbaeen in Karbala, it's enough to make them shed a tear. I've seen some videos where non-Muslims describe their experience. It's amazing how non-Muslims feel so loved when they take part in the Arbaeen peace walk. The message of Imam Hussein (عليه السلام) is for humanity. In my opinion if we want to give dawah to non-Muslims, somehow we need to introduce Imam Hussein (عليه السلام) to humanity. Maryam.It, Ashvazdanghe and AmirioTheMuzzy 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Popular Post Moalfas Posted October 12, 2019 Advanced Member Popular Post Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 45 minutes ago, Maryam.It said: And if is an obligation,or something to do,how we have to do it? It's narrated that Imam Al Sadiq (عليه السلام) said كونوا لنا دعاة صامتين Be the ones who do Dawah for us whilst silent it's also narrated that Imam Al Sadiq (عليه السلام) said كونوا لنا دعاة بغير ألسنتكم Be the ones who do Dawah for us without the use of your tounges Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) have taught their followers to be examples of their Akhlaq as that's the best way to attract people. If one can be of exemplary character of honesty, sincerity, morals and treat people like Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) would; people would gravitate towards that individual and their code of ethics and therefore be introduced to Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) through a real life example. This I believe is a much more effective and long lasting way for Dawah as opposed to 'open' Dawah because we're all human and we don't always practice what we preach; so often times we could end up giving what we're preaching a bad name. Lion of Shia, Maryam.It, Kaya and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Lion of Shia Posted October 13, 2019 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, ali_fatheroforphans said: If we manage to get non-Muslims to attend Arbaeen in Karbala, it's enough to make them shed a tear. I've seen some videos where non-Muslims describe their experience. It's amazing how non-Muslims feel so loved when they take part in the Arbaeen peace walk. The message of Imam Hussein (عليه السلام) is for humanity. In my opinion if we want to give dawah to non-Muslims, somehow we need to introduce Imam Hussein (عليه السلام) to humanity. How about an Imam Hussain Movie "Karbela" in english, like they did for kingdom of heaven!!!! Edited October 13, 2019 by Lion of Shia Ashvazdanghe and ali_fatheroforphans 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Ashvazdanghe Posted October 28, 2019 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 On 10/13/2019 at 9:14 AM, Lion of Shia said: How about an Imam Hussain Movie "Karbela" in english, like they did for kingdom of heaven!!!! it's a good idea but it's a very sensitive issue & we can't gather all Shia scholars around it to have a good movie about it & last movie that made directly about Karbala in Iran ,banned by ruling of Shia marjas because it was containing showing face of Hazrat Abulfazl (رضي الله عنه) & inserted a fake love story of son of Hur (رضي الله عنه) with one of ladies in Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) family that Shia marjas called these two insulting to Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) & they banned the movie. AmirioTheMuzzy and Kaya 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member 786:) Posted October 28, 2019 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 On 10/12/2019 at 1:48 PM, ali_fatheroforphans said: If we manage to get non-Muslims to attend Arbaeen in Karbala, it's enough to make them shed a tear. I've seen some videos where non-Muslims describe their experience. It's amazing how non-Muslims feel so loved when they take part in the Arbaeen peace walk. The message of Imam Hussein (عليه السلام) is for humanity. In my opinion if we want to give dawah to non-Muslims, somehow we need to introduce Imam Hussein (عليه السلام) to humanity. Im sorry, but this is a bad approach. You have to introduce tawheed first. Tawheed is the primary pillar of Islam. There are Hindus, Christians and Atheists who go to the Arbaeen walk and remain with their faiths. The main foundation of Shia Islam is not the Arbaeen walk or Karbala. It is Tawheed. Ashvazdanghe, Kaya and AmirioTheMuzzy 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member ali_fatheroforphans Posted October 28, 2019 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 33 minutes ago, 786:) said: Im sorry, but this is a bad approach. You have to introduce tawheed first. Tawheed is the primary pillar of Islam. There are Hindus, Christians and Atheists who go to the Arbaeen walk and remain with their faiths. The main foundation of Shia Islam is not the Arbaeen walk or Karbala. It is Tawheed. People come to Islam through different ways and have unique experiences. You don't need to formally introduce tawheed to people, because people can use their rationality to understand that God is one and that He has no partners. The sacrifice of Imam Hussein (عليه السلام) was all about Tawheed. People need to see the practical aspect of Tawheed. The way Imam Hussein (عليه السلام) gave up all that was beloved to him simply for the sake of Allah. In a world where Wahhabis are spreading their toxic ideas, we need to introduce the personality of Imam Hussein (عليه السلام) to non-Muslims. It's a shame how Shias have kept Imam Hussein (عليه السلام) to themselves once he is for humanity. Ashvazdanghe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Abu Talib Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 On 10/12/2019 at 8:40 PM, Moalfas said: It's narrated that Imam Al Sadiq (عليه السلام) said كونوا لنا دعاة صامتين Be the ones who do Dawah for us whilst silent it's also narrated that Imam Al Sadiq (عليه السلام) said كونوا لنا دعاة بغير ألسنتكم Be the ones who do Dawah for us without the use of your tounges Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) have taught their followers to be examples of their Akhlaq as that's the best way to attract people. If one can be of exemplary character of honesty, sincerity, morals and treat people like Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) would; people would gravitate towards that individual and their code of ethics and therefore be introduced to Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) through a real life example. This I believe is a much more effective and long lasting way for Dawah as opposed to 'open' Dawah because we're all human and we don't always practice what we preach; so often times we could end up giving what we're preaching a bad name. Shi'aism is hard on its own due to its truthfulness, to toe the line on anything be it a thought or speech or prayer etc... The concern is to prepare for the journey so how can one propagate about a journey not yet accomplished to a certain extent? Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) has His(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) ways of propagation, do you think a kafir or munafiq or mushrik can be of those who propagate indirectly of course? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Ashvazdanghe Posted November 2, 2019 Advanced Member Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Photos: Arbaeen mourning ceremony in Sao Paulo, Brazil https://en.abna24.com/news//photos-arbaeen-mourning-ceremony-in-sao-paulo-brazil_985420.html November 1, 2019 - 4:38 PM News Code : 985420 Source : ABNA24Link: Ahlul Bayt News Agency (ABNA): Arbaeen mourning ceremony held in Sao Paulo, Brazil. Photos: Arbaeen mourning ceremony in Louisville, America https://en.abna24.com/news//photos-arbaeen-mourning-ceremony-in-louisville-america_984919.html October 29, 2019 - 4:22 PM News Code : 984919 Source : ABNA24Link: Ahlul Bayt News Agency (ABNA): Arbaeen mourning ceremony held at "al-Zahra" Islamic center in Louisville, America. Photos: Arbaeen mourning ceremony in Dearborn, America https://en.abna24.com/news//photos-arbaeen-mourning-ceremony-in-dearborn-america_984812.html October 28, 2019 - 5:11 PM News Code : 984812 Source : ABNA24Link: Ahlul Bayt News Agency (ABNA): Arbaeen mourning ceremony held in Dearborn, America. Photos: Arbaeen procession in Washington, America https://en.abna24.com/news//photos-arbaeen-procession-in-washington-america_985348.html October 31, 2019 - 5:29 PM News Code : 985348 Source : ABNA24Link: Ahlul Bayt News Agency (ABNA): Arbaeen procession held in Washington, D.C., America. https://en.abna24.com/news//photos-arbaeen-procession-in-washington-america_985348.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Ar.alhindi Posted November 2, 2019 Advanced Member Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 On 10/12/2019 at 6:37 PM, Maryam.It said: Assalamu alaykum. Dawah in Shia is not an obligation right? And if is an obligation,or something to do,how we have to do it? Thankyou so much in advance and Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) forgive me if I wrote something wrong. This won't answer your question but my observation of Twelvers regarding Da'wah is to let the Sunnis do the leg work in bringing people to Islam (most of the time) and then preying on the fresh converts, or otherwise targetting only weak Sunnis. There is no organised Da'wah effort I am aware of that Twelvers do except to target Sunnis and fresh converts. Ashvazdanghe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Ashvazdanghe Posted November 3, 2019 Advanced Member Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Ar.alhindi said: or otherwise targetting only weak Sunnis. There is no organised Da'wah effort I am aware of that Twelvers do except to target Sunnis and fresh converts. there is many wise persons that converted from Sunni Islam to Shia Islam like as Hamed Elgar & Christian Bonoua but Sunni preachers are targeting weak people that don't search about truth or very lazy in research & just came by random chance & leg work of Sunni preachers that use Christian preachers tactics like as playing with mind of people &or hiding many information from them like as they can't leave Islam after accepting it but trick them that they just say some words in front of cameras to increase their fans in their channels &you won't such new converts in next videos also wahabi preachers are acting like gangs just to gather people in their gangs that even after few months their members can't do any Islamic ritual like as Namaz but they come with gang leaders with Arabic costumes &long beards to terrify other people like as Shia &receive their halal money but our main problem is from radical cults that receive their orders from some places like as London that they are insulting to respected figures of Sunnis & also treat badly other Shias that are against their rude behavior that lable other Shias that are against them with rude labels like as Dajjaliah or Batri. Edited November 3, 2019 by Ashvazdanghe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Moalfas Posted November 3, 2019 Advanced Member Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 10/28/2019 at 4:49 PM, Guest Abu Talib said: The concern is to prepare for the journey so how can one propagate about a journey not yet accomplished to a certain extent? Propagation of good Akhlaq can be done through basic everyday dealings regardless of where one has reached on his/her personal journey. On 10/28/2019 at 4:49 PM, Guest Abu Talib said: Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) has His(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) ways of propagation, do you think a kafir or munafiq or mushrik can be of those who propagate indirectly of course? Absolutely they can. Imam Ali (عليه السلام) has said amongst many sayings about wisdom: فخذ الحكمة و لو من اهل النفاق So take wisdom even from the people of Nifaaq (hypocrisy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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