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RepentantServant

Do you ever feel ashamed when asking God for help

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Have you ever just wanted to make dua to Allah & plead for His help, but then you just stop yourself from doing so because you start to think to yourself that your problems are so minuscule, compared to that of those of the less fortunate. Those who are living in poverty, those living in war torn countries & so on & so on. And so you just don't make any dua to Allah because you start to think about others who are less fortunate than you & what they're going through, & those people who have it way worse than you. Like, my worst days is someone else's best days. 

Its like a feeling of shame that you feel, when you come to God with your 1st world problems when there are others who are having it way worse. Do you ever just feel ashamed to ask God for His help knowing others are suffering much worse than you? 

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1 hour ago, RepentantServant said:

Have you ever just wanted to make dua to Allah & plead for His help, but then you just stop yourself from doing so because you start to think to yourself that your problems are so minuscule, compared to that of those of the less fortunate. Those who are living in poverty, those living in war torn countries & so on & so on. And so you just don't make any dua to Allah because you start to think about others who are less fortunate than you & what they're going through, & those people who have it way worse than you. Like, my worst days is someone else's best days. 

Its like a feeling of shame that you feel, when you come to God with your 1st world problems when there are others who are having it way worse. Do you ever just feel ashamed to ask God for His help knowing others are suffering much worse than you? 

No. I don't think sin is something we can see it as minuscule.

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As salaamun aleikum,

No, because asking forgiveness is how Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) has made purifying our souls possible.

I sometimes do something similar to myself, and sometimes, the same kind of thing is thrust upon me. Like, people will say things like, "your problem isnt so bad--look what the Ahle Bayt went through." as if to dismiss the hardships I go through in life that Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) has chosen for me to go through..its like, "whaaa...?" 

I mean, we should always strive to be as close in all actions as the Ahle Bayt were, but we will never be as good as them. That is just the reality of the situation. So let me have my "moment" over here without the added guilt that its not "ok" for me to have my moment.

Brother, take time, have your moment, but always seek forgiveness.

Also, I found this the other day on a site that talks about logical fallacies:

appeal to emotion

You attempted to manipulate an emotional response in place of a valid or compelling argument.

Appeals to emotion include appeals to fear, envy, hatred, pity, pride, and more. It's important to note that sometimes a logically coherent argument may inspire emotion or have an emotional aspect, but the problem and fallacy occurs when emotion is used instead of a logical argument, or to obscure the fact that no compelling rational reason exists for one's position. Everyone, bar sociopaths, is affected by emotion, and so appeals to emotion are a very common and effective argument tactic, but they're ultimately flawed, dishonest, and tend to make one's opponents justifiably emotional.

Example: Luke didn't want to eat his sheep's brains with chopped liver and brussel sprouts, but his father told him to think about the poor, starving children in a third world country who weren't fortunate enough to have any food at all.                     

(don’t be like Lukes dad to yourself)

W/s

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On 10/4/2019 at 4:58 PM, hasanhh said:

No.

But l do more thankin' than askin'.

Ahamduallah for everything.

For you Jew or Chr!stian reading this, Job Chapter 1. Remember?

Yes, thanks, I do remember. Job seemed safe from any real troubles, UNTIL...

1 There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job, and that man was blameless and upright, one who feared God and turned away from evil.
2 There were born to him seven sons and three daughters.
3 He possessed 7,000 sheep, 3,000 camels, 500 yoke of oxen, and 500 female donkeys, and very many servants, so that this man was the greatest of all the people of the east.
4 His sons used to go and hold a feast in the house of each one on his day, and they would send and invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them.
5 And when the days of the feast had run their course, Job would send and consecrate them, and he would rise early in the morning and offer burnt offerings according to the number of them all. For Job said, "It may be that my children have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts." Thus Job did continually.
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them.
7 The LORD said to Satan, "From where have you come?" Satan answered the LORD and said, "From going to and fro on the Earth, and from walking up and down on it."
8 And the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on the Earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil?"
9 Then Satan answered the LORD and said, "Does Job fear God for no reason?
10 Have you not put a hedge around him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land.
11 But stretch out your hand and touch all that he has, and he will curse you to your face."
12 And the LORD said to Satan, "Behold, all that he has is in your hand. Only against him do not stretch out your hand." So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD.
13 Now there was a day when his sons and daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother's house,
14 and there came a messenger to Job and said, "The oxen were plowing and the donkeys feeding beside them,
15 and the Sabeans fell upon them and took them and struck down the servants with the edge of the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you."
16 While he was yet speaking, there came another and said, "The fire of God fell from heaven and burned up the sheep and the servants and consumed them, and I alone have escaped to tell you."
17 While he was yet speaking, there came another and said, "The Chaldeans formed three groups and made a raid on the camels and took them and struck down the servants with the edge of the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you."
18 While he was yet speaking, there came another and said, "Your sons and daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother's house,
19 and behold, a great wind came across the wilderness and struck the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young people, and they are dead, and I alone have escaped to tell you."
20 Then Job arose and tore his robe and shaved his head and fell on the ground and worshiped.
21 And he said, "Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked shall I return. The LORD gave, and the LORD has taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD."
22 In all this Job did not sin or charge God with wrong. - Job 1

...but 41 chapters later, after Satan got permission from God to even destroy Job's health, he repented to God for his arrogance and pride, THEN...

12 And the LORD blessed the latter days of Job more than his beginning. And he had 14,000 sheep, 6,000 camels, 1,000 yoke of oxen, and 1,000 female donkeys.
13 He had also seven sons and three daughters.
14 And he called the name of the first daughter Jemimah, and the name of the second Keziah, and the name of the third Keren-happuch.
15 And in all the land there were no women so beautiful as Job's daughters. And their father gave them an inheritance among their brothers.
16 And after this Job lived 140 years, and saw his sons, and his sons' sons, four generations.
17 And Job died, an old man, and full of days. - Job 42:12-17

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3 hours ago, MartyS said:

Job seemed safe from any real troubles, UNTIL...

Biblically, Deut 7:19

Quranically, 8:17, 28  and   9:126  and  21:35

There is no "until" because Allah-(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). controls the parameters of everything. 

You cannot use the concept of Time as a measure pertaining to Allah -(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). 

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On 10/5/2019 at 1:25 AM, RepentantServant said:

Its like a feeling of shame that you feel, when you come to God with your 1st world problems when there are others who are having it way worse. Do you ever just feel ashamed to ask God for His help knowing others are suffering much worse than you? 

Feel ashamed? Not at all. First, its not like God has a limited supply to divide among His creatures. Really. Like if I take some sustenance someone else will be rationed because of that. I don't ask like a child asks their parent, rather a lot, A LOT more. I even recite the prayer of Suleiman (عليه السلام) "O Rabb forgive me and give me sovereignty [.......]" from surah Soaad. I ask for billions and trillions of money among any other things I can think of, the best and all things. Why not? It does not exhaust His treasures at all even if He dispensed all that to all His creatures. Nor is it written anywhere to ask in a moderation. Rather it is recommended to ask repeatedly and not asking is said to be haughtiness.

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On 10/4/2019 at 10:58 PM, hasanhh said:

No.

But l do more thankin' than askin'.

Ahamduallah for everything.

For you Jew or Chr!stian reading this, Job Chapter 1. Remember?

Love that!

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Keep up with your daily prayers and supplications. Don't be like some people who only remember Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) in times of emergency. :blush: 

And when We show favor to man, he turns aside and withdraws himself; and when evil touches him, he makes lengthy supplications. [Holy Qur'an 41:51]

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Do you think if you stop doing dua for your daily problems it makes God busy so God cannot spend enough time to solve those who suffer more than you?

Do dua for yourself and all other prople no matter how minute,tiny, or big it is. Theres a Hadeeth from Imam Sadigh saying that ask us for everything even for the meal you need for your dinner.

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32 minutes ago, Sisterfatima1 said:

No I’m the first to cry and beg God to help me 

God is my protector my helper my everything 

if God can’t help me nobody can 

The O.T. l know "disapproves of begging." 

lt is also what kind of "help" you think you need. Like as in responding to your post here. (Avoid error/chose the best word -Al-Rasheed-(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى).)

Or need something, AI-Razzaq.

l do not think "my everything" be joined with Al-Wali. This is an addition, invention; using Ayats 6:23-24.

1 hour ago, Sisterfatima1 said:

if God can’t help me nobody can

Never challenge the Decision or Management of Allah-(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى).

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