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It was best for Shia to stay under oppression in Iraq, rather than have authority go against everything that was preached for.

Shifting from teachings of the Just Imam Ali to the Sahaba tyrants

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2130EDT, 05Oct19

OPINE: l have read, watched and academically studied anti-gov't protests before, but l ain't never seen all this together before.

That preface writ:

al-Jazeera reports 14 dead in Baghdad Sat,05Oct19 -PBS News Hour reported 18.

ln southern lraq, marches on gov't offices and several political party offices attacked (and 2 burned)

Baghdad: an emergency session of Parliament was called, but no quorum showed up so it was cancelled (too scared to go?).

A picture, https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/Iraq-protests-latest-updates-191004085506824.html  shows empty casings from US 5.56mm, AK 7.62x38, an unknown to me, and an aluminum tear gas cannister.

Protestors face gunfire and sniper fire.

KSA's al-Arabiyya station attacked by men-in-black emerging from 'black cars' (Xe Services since 2009, fmrly Blackwater ?  or lSlL-like?)

Several other TV stations attacked, even private ones. (Objective: lnformation isolated to make lraq incommunicado prior to a mass slaughter?) 

Arab League 'calls for dialogue'

UN denounces the violence, calls for "must stop"

Mohammed al-Habousi, lraq's Speaker (Parliament) meets with protesters to try and "defuse the situation"

And a picture that is quite indicative of what is going on: a young hijabi in the street by some burning tires.

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No wonder why they blocked the internet, these videos are crazy. Security forces on machine guns spraying wildly. 

Is this how a government behaves? And are Iraqis meant to sit down? Which part of the foreign plot conspiracy theory is it mentioned that a government sprays wild fire at protesters?
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1 hour ago, Sumerian said:

No wonder why they blocked the internet, these videos are crazy. Security forces on machine guns spraying wildly. 

Is this how a government behaves? And are Iraqis meant to sit down? Which part of the foreign plot conspiracy theory is it mentioned that a government sprays wild fire at protesters?

Do you have a link to aforesaid video?

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13 minutes ago, Sumerian said:

Yea I pmed it to you, because of graphic

 

The police are not "'spraying wildly" as you described, but that vehicle was shooting into both floors of the building.

lt is not graphic.

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22 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

The police are not "'spraying wildly" as you described, but that vehicle was shooting into both floors of the building.

lt is not graphic.

I just sent you three even more obvious videos. Hopefully you change your mind. And yes they are graphic.

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24 minutes ago, Sumerian said:

I just sent you three even more obvious videos. Hopefully you change your mind. And yes they are graphic.

Salam,

Because l do not react to violence the same way you do does not make me "stubborn".

The second of four videos shows by the tracer fire the rounds are going over their heads.

The third video sounds like a gun battle down the street, which will explain why the people in the video are standing in the same places. Almost no movement.

The 4th video is a fusillade of tear gas.

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Some more info:

1]Best to read this short reoprt than for me to recount it: Assassination Plot on Sistani

https://www.iqna.ir/en/news/3469568/plot-to-assassinte-ayatollah-Sistani-foiled-report 

2]l can't find this again, but via youtube l watched a dw.com report and analysis in which the reporter said $450 Billion has been sent into lraq.

 

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43 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

The second of four videos shows by the tracer fire the rounds are going over their heads.

The third video sounds like a gun battle down the street, which will explain why the people in the video are standing in the same places. Almost no movement.

The 4th video is a fusillade of tear gas.

1) Yes, live fire just over their heads

2) There was no battle at all. Which media source said there was ever armed clashes?

Also, do you want videos of protesters running from fire? They are available too.

3) Brute force.

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4 minutes ago, Sumerian said:

1) Yes, live fire just over their heads

2) There was no battle at all. Which media source said there was ever armed clashes?

Also, do you want videos of protesters running from fire? They are available too.

3) Brute force.

2) l figured from the pattern and volume of discharges, it sounds like a gunbattle.

3) Agreed.

Protesters always run. So do rioters.

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Plot to assassinate Ayatollah Sistani foiled

https://en.abna24.com/news//plot-to-assassinate-ayatollah-Sistani-foiled_980424.html

October 5, 2019 - 2:10 PM News Code : 980424 Source : Press TVLink: 

Plot to assassinate Ayatollah Sistani foiled

 

Iraq’s security forces dismantled a terrorist group as it was planning to assassinate the most prominent Shia cleric Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani in the wake of ongoing demonstrations against corruption, unemployment and poor public services, a report says.

Ahlul Bayt News Agency (ABNA): Iraq’s security forces dismantled a terrorist group as it was planning to assassinate the most prominent Shia cleric Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani in the wake of ongoing demonstrations against corruption, unemployment and poor public services, a report says.

Lebanon's Arabic-language al-Mayadeen television news network, citing Najaf Provincial Governor Luay al-Yassiry, said on Friday that members of the terror outfit actually wanted to kill the revered cleric in the holy city of Najaf, located about 160 kilometers (100 miles) south of the capital Baghdad, and had infiltrated the old part of the city for the purpose.

Meanwhile, the correspondent for the Iran-based Arabic-language al-Alam television news network, Navid Behrouz, reported that the captured terrorists had planned to incite protesters to storm Ayatollah Sistani’s office.

Earlier in the day, Grand Ayatollah Sistani urged Iraqi security forces and protesters to avoid violence, expressing sorrow over some sporadic unrest that has led to several casualties.

“It is sorrowful there have been so many deaths, casualties and destruction” from clashes between anti-government protesters and security forces in recent days, he said in a letter on Friday.

In the letter read out by his representative Ahmed al-Safi during a sermon in the holy city of Karbala, the top cleric urged all parties to avoid violence.

He also criticized officials and political sides for failing to answer the demands of the people to fight corruption, urging them to heed the demands of the protesters “before it's too late.”

“Lawmakers hold the biggest responsibility for what is happening,” Ayatollah Sistani was quoted as saying.

The ongoing unrest in Iraq comes as millions of Shia Muslims are preparing for mourning rituals on Arbaeen, which marks 40 days after the anniversary of Ashura, the day of the martyrdom of Imam Hussein (عليه السلام), the grandson of Prophet Muhammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)).

Imam Hussein (عليه السلام) was martyred in a battle with the massive army of Yazid ibn Mu'awiya, commonly known as Yazid I, in the desert plains of Karbala along with his 72 companions approximately 14 centuries ago, after refusing allegiance to the tyrant caliph.

The occasion has found additional significance in recent years as it has become a rallying cry for the campaign against Takfiri terrorists, who have frequently targeted the pilgrims.

The pilgrims show their commitment to the Shia Imam by walking tens of miles, a large number of them barefoot. Mourners clad in black walk toward Karbala, which lies 80 kilometers (50 miles) south of Baghdad, to commemorate Arbaeen, which in Arabic means forty and falls on October 19 this year.

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Anyone else cancelled their Arbaeen trip because of this? I’m so upset, this was meant to be my first visit to Karbala. 

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1 hour ago, Guest BritBoy said:

Anyone else cancelled their Arbaeen trip because of this? I’m so upset, this was meant to be my first visit to Karbala. 

You shouldn't have cancelled. 

ISIS comes and goes,governments might change, Ziyarat should stay. If possible for you to still go, do it!! Go.

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1 hour ago, Guest BritBoy said:

Anyone else cancelled their Arbaeen trip because of this? I’m so upset, this was meant to be my first visit to Karbala. 

Salam , although some protesters said anti Iranian slogans & made false flags about Iran but  Iranians are promoting coming to Arbaeen  more than previous years even trying to come more than last Arbaeen 

IRGC Arbaeen headquarters launched at Mehran border

https://en.abna24.com/news//irgc-arbaeen-headquarters-launched-at-mehran-border_980444.html

October 5, 2019 - 4:13 PM News Code : 980444 Source : IQNALink: 
IRGC Arbaeen headquarters launched at Mehran border
 

The Arbaeen headquarters of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) has started its activities at Mehran border in western Iran, an IRGC official said.

Ahlul Bayt News Agency (ABNA): The Arbaeen headquarters of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) has started its activities at Mehran border in western Iran, an IRGC official said.

Brigadier General Jamal Shahkarami said the headquarters officially began operating on Saturday morning.

He said it would provide Arabeen pilgrims with services in terms of security, medical aid, welfare, etc.

Last week, Iran’s Interior Minister Abdolreza Rahmani Fazli said the number of Iranian pilgrims visiting Iraq for the Arbaeen was expected to reach three million this year.

Arbaeen, one of the largest religious gatherings in the world, comes 40 days after Ashura, the martyrdom anniversary of Imam Hussein (عليه السلام), the third Shia Imam.

Every year, a huge crowd of pilgrims flock to the Iraqi holy city of Karbala, where the holy shrine of Imam Hussein (عليه السلام) is located, to perform mourning rites.

Iran and Iraq have agreed to raise the level of services and facilities for the pilgrims and enhance border security during the Arbaeen season, which will culminate in a large gathering in Karbala on October 19.

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Guest Basira

There are some nationalists in Iraq who haven't learnt the lessons of the history of nationalism in Iraq: from 1920 onwards, which left the Shi'a, who are the majority of Iraq, oppressed for decades. 

Nationalism as the highest political identifier is a Shu'ubi ideology which was reimported from the West and based on the myth of a single Arab people, which is a laughable illusion.

They haven't learnt the lesson that under nationalist slogans, Iraqi young men were sent to attack Iran (2nd Qadisiyya and all that nonsense) and Kuwait (because Iraqi nationalism is greater than Kuwaiti nationalism apparently).

They don't realise that the region's countries can't be independent because the superpowers use one nationalism against the other, Iranian against Arab, Arab against Kurdish, Iraqi against Kuwaiti, Lebanese against Syrian, Bahraini against Iranian, etc. They do this to weaken the only force capable of independence: the religious marja'iyya. 

Whoever politically identifies with nationalism over the marja'iyya and emphasises national borders over transnational marja'iyya is destroying the interests of the people of the region and selling out to the outsider superpowers that have exploited the region for decades.

Ideological nationalism is a satanic poison that turns good people into munafiqs that invariably become pawns against the religious community. It's pitiful that people don't get they're being used as pawns. Traitors to the region without knowing it.

Ironically the idolatry of nationalism is threatening the Iraqi nation like it tore Lebanon apart before and threatened Iran decades ago.

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With the protests leaving security services in such disarray, I find it difficult to believe they will adequately guarantee the safety of the pilgrims. Especially with the anti-Iran sentiment surrounding the protests, coupled with the fact that a record number of Iranian pilgrims will be in attendance. Only two weeks ago a bus bomb went off and this is before these protests happened. As much as I would love to go to Karbala and do this Ziyara, I think I will wait for these hostilities to subside. Waiting a year or two is definitely preferential to losing an arm or a leg in some coward's attack.

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For people who prefere to taste the milk before buying the cow:

 

1. The mortar strike in question happened in Sadr city, located to the north eastern edge of Baghdad, there has been no reports of demonstrations at the impact area (zone 31 and 28) at that time to my knowledge. If the government had decided to use mortar strikes against the protestors, then they would have surely used them at the actual places of protest, such as Tahrir square, al-lalam, the neighborhood of amel, Tayaran square, or even other cities with protests such as Najaf, Naseriyah, Diwaniyah, Kufa, Basra, etc. Yet we have seen this happen only once so far and in an area that had no protests at the time.

2. The place of impact was about 2,5 - 3,0 km from the north eastern border of Baghdad. A mortar can be fired from 5,0 - 6,0 km away depending on the wind. This even opens up the possibility of the mortar being fired from outside the city into the city. As we have seen last couple of days, daesh are active just outside of Baghdad as they managed to close the road between Baghdad and Samarra.

3. A mortar is not expensive and is meant to be carried by foot soldiers (infantery), I.e. its not something you need an army to have. We, even fanatical people, have already established that theres been instances of a third group of anonymous people who not only fire on protestors but on the security guards as well, this has been reported multiple times earlier and can also be shown in the video linked above. Latest news from today indicate that the protestors themselves caught a man among them in Rusafa carrying a weapon and inciting violence while destorying public property, they handed him over to the security troops.

4. On twitter we can see hashtags such as "marjaee don't represent me" trending, an assassination attempt was done on seyyed Sistani the day after one was done on general Suleimani in Iran. You have factual statistics of hashtags relating to the protests, firing them on and inciting them to violence/blaming Iran, being data backtraced to Saudi arabia more than the tweets from Iraq with the same hashtags. You have hashtags from users speaking about Iraq in feminine form claiming to be Iraqi while iraqis themselves speak of Iraq in a masculine form. We can see that these events are unfolding right as arbaeen is upon us and the strength of the Shias are shown to the world by their numbers and their unity. At this point it would not surprise me if the zawar of Hussein(عليه السلام) that are Iranian would be attacked or even killed by some of the protestors or some who pretend to be among the protestors just to increase the hate between Shias and futher split them.

 

I think the government needs some big reforms and corruption to this degree cannot be accepted, even if corruption is widespread in the society as a whole. 

The government of Iraq is not an efficient government, they have had the chance to improve the situation since the last protests but have not done so successfully. The youth in Iraq has become frustrated at the unemployment and lack of infrastructure, the poor getting poorer, money disappearing in political pockets, etc.

But I am afraid that the enemies of the Shia are using that frustration among the youth to further their own interests namely to: ruin arbaein as a sign of straight and unity of the Shias, distance Shias from the marjae, cause fitna/disunity among Shias, evoke strong feelings of nationalism overriding the religious identity of the Shias.

There needs to be change to stop this corruption in the government, but not like this and most certainly not at a time like this.

 

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11 hours ago, Guest Basira said:

There are some nationalists in Iraq who haven't learnt the lessons of the history of nationalism in Iraq: from 1920 onwards, which left the Shi'a, who are the majority of Iraq, oppressed for decades. 

Nationalism as the highest political identifier is a Shu'ubi ideology which was reimported from the West and based on the myth of a single Arab people, which is a laughable illusion.

They haven't learnt the lesson that under nationalist slogans, Iraqi young men were sent to attack Iran (2nd Qadisiyya and all that nonsense) and Kuwait (because Iraqi nationalism is greater than Kuwaiti nationalism apparently).

They don't realise that the region's countries can't be independent because the superpowers use one nationalism against the other, Iranian against Arab, Arab against Kurdish, Iraqi against Kuwaiti, Lebanese against Syrian, Bahraini against Iranian, etc. They do this to weaken the only force capable of independence: the religious marja'iyya. 

Whoever politically identifies with nationalism over the marja'iyya and emphasises national borders over transnational marja'iyya is destroying the interests of the people of the region and selling out to the outsider superpowers that have exploited the region for decades.

Ideological nationalism is a satanic poison that turns good people into munafiqs that invariably become pawns against the religious community. It's pitiful that people don't get they're being used as pawns. Traitors to the region without knowing it.

Ironically the idolatry of nationalism is threatening the Iraqi nation like it tore Lebanon apart before and threatened Iran decades ago.

No one in Iraq cares about Arabism or unity with other Arabs anymore, in fact many people in Iraq want Iraq to break away from the issues of the Arab world. The only form of nationalism that Iraqis emphasise is a form of isolationism and staying within your own country and being guided by economic interests that benefit your people. Iraqis look at other oil rich nations in the region and how great their economic status is and wonder why Iraq isn't also like that, considering the trillions of dollars in oil wealth the country has.

Secondly the notion of modern cross border pan-Islamism is imported from the West, it was strengthened by the Muslim Brotherhood whose ties to intelligence agencies are known. And the notion that we should "unite this ummah" is also a joke, never happen and never will. It is as pathetic as Arabism.

The marja'iyya in Iraq has always advocated that there should be non-interference in the affairs of Iraq and have never advocated whatever cross border thing you are trying to make out.

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The President reported on his discussions with Iraqi officials and what was agreed upon in order to further develop the friendship and neighbourly relations between the two countries.
His Eminence, welcomed the steps to strengthen Iraq’s relations with neighbouring countries based on mutual interests, respect for sovereignty and non-interference in domestic affairs.

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Guest Basira

Iraqi isolationism is an illusion. The British and then the Americans came from the other side of the world a number of times to unilaterally determine the lives of Iraqis. History is brimming with this stuff. 

The marja'iyya is more than just individual. It's a major institution in at least 3 countries where they care about the interests of whoever filled them. Yes this includes political and economic and social interests. The tobacco movement and the constitutional revolution in Iran got its fatwas from Samarra and Najaf and Amal and the resistance against the Israeli invaders of Lebanon got their blessings from Tehran. 

Everyone's interconnected in this region. What Iraq does with its Kurds might threaten the Turks. What Iraq does with its oil might threaten Kuwait. What Iraq does with its military might threaten Iran. Not Iraq not any country can pretend they can isolate their decisions from the bigger geopolitical picture. That is definitely not going to happen. It took the gradual move toward the European Union to make Europe peaceful since two terrible wars and we can see how fragile the EU is. These arbitrary borders only add to tensions and they definitely don't allow for isolationist illusions. 

The logic of Iraqi nationalism is arbitrary too. The Kurds love a bit of nationalism, is Iraq ready to give it to them? 

A lot of Iraqi nationalism today is just anti-Iranianism as if Iranians are enemies or like Iran is to blame for Iraq's poor infrastructure or maybe Iranians who were forced to fight an eight year bloody war shouldn't have an interest in the type of regime that replaces Saddam, or the marja'iyya in Qom is somehow separate from the marja'iyya in Najaf and other jingoistic nonsensnonsens

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Unity of ummah and pan-Islamism is a strawman. 

What is fact of history is that there is a real identity which has huge geopolitical force and it's the alliance of foreign policy and cooperation of trade policy between Iran and Iraq and Syria and South Lebanon to make sure that no other country comes in between these neighbours and plays them against each other like they did for decades. Because other countries will try like they have done many times. They are doing it right now. Turkey can't even buy the defence missiles it likes without getting sanctioned. It's a jungle and if you isolate yourself and separate yourself from the pack you get hunted down, fatigued and eaten. 

Anyway, I'm just saying it for benefit of readers here. There are enough brave young Iraqis who can see beyond crumbling colonial borders and want to create a real alliance with common geopolitical goals with their neighbours. A good deal of them know the history of Iraq and know that Iraqis in a mess because for 100 years countries outside this region interfered in it again and again by repressions and coups when it didn't suit them. They know that peace and prosperity can only be had in this region if the countries ally themselves like a super-bloc and prioritize networks of trade and science and technology and security and culture between them over other countries.

Like I said, there are already people working on this on the ground in these countries and it's inevitable because key players recognise 1) we need peace and 2) we need independence and 3) outside big powers don't want to lose their position of privilege. So these players know the only way to thwart the big powers is to be a big power and that means alliance. 

Anyway, protestors have right to protest and not get killed, but the protests are being exploited and exaggerated by people with an agenda. Now when we search the news for Iraq, what do we see? Protests + Iraq pleasure marriages and secret sex trade. People wanting to know more about the protests get to hate the Shia clerics.

Also, Sistani doesn't involve himself in politics as much as some others because he knows many Iraqis don't support him, not because he thinks "Iraq for Iraqis", "Our oil, our benefits", and lack of political support for non-Iraqi peoples. The marja'iyya for 200 years has tried to mobilize people and funds for causes in different parts of the region whenever they had the chance. Marja's don't recognize borders for their hukms just like their fatwas don't have borders.

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6 hours ago, Soldiers and Saffron said:

As we have seen last couple of days, daesh are active just outside of Baghdad as they managed to close the road between Baghdad and Samarra.

Thanks for this info, man.

Somethings from the news, late SundayEDT, 6Oct19

1] https://www.dw.com/en/Iraq-blames-malicious-forces-for-violence-as-more-protesters-are-killed/a-50719157 

3 short (like 2 minutes) videos; Abdul-Mahdi agress to meet with "brotherly protesters"; and to "boost . . . unemployment benefits"(:hahaha: unemlpoyment is one of the big complaints)

2] Baghdad governor resigns  https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/10/06/608020/Baghdad-governor- 

also, some points in Sistani's letter read at Jummah

3] https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/10/06/608011/Iraq-reforms-protests 

Cabinet 'reshuffle' planned; the gov't recently demolished housing "built without permit".; statements by Interior Ministry

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Hashd al-Shaabi to ensure security of Arbaeen pilgrims at Khosravi border

Iranian official: Arbaeen pilgrims' number grow 5-fold

More than 2 million Iranians register for Arbaeen pilgrimage

 

https://en.abna24.com/news//hashd-al-shaabi-to-ensure-security-of-arbaeen-pilgrims-at-khosravi-border_980709.html

https://en.abna24.com/news//iranian-official-arbaeen-pilgrims-number-grow-5-fold_980717.html

https://en.abna24.com/news//more-than-2-million-iranians-register-for-arbaeen-pilgrimage_980722.html

 

October 6, 2019 - 4:45 PM News Code : 980709 Source : MehrLink: 

Hashd al-Shaabi to ensure security of Arbaeen pilgrims at Khosravi border

 

Hashd al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilization Forces) will provide security of Arbaeen pilgrims at Khosravi border, the governor of the western Iranian province of Kermanshah informed on Sunday.

“Khosravi is the only Iran-Iraq joint border which leads passengers directly to Baghdad,” Hooshang Bazvand said, “It is an advantage per se but due to the recent unrest in Iraqi capital, a new road has been selected to replace the route to Baghdad from Khosravi border, security of which is to be provided by Hashd al-Shaabi,”.

“From Khosravi border, the selected road goes to Najaf and then to Karbala,” he added.

ON September 29, Iran’s Deputy Foreign Minister for Iranian Expatriates’ and Parliamentary Affairs Hossein Jaberi Ansari and Iraq's Parliament Speaker Muhammad al-Halbusi discussed ways of boosting cooperation on Arbaeen precession.

In a meeting in Baghdadi, the two sides discussed a host of issues, including bilateral and regional developments as well as the coordination between Iran and Iraq to secure the processions of Arbaeen pilgrimage.

Baghdad, Karbala, and Najaf are among other destinations of Ansari on his official trip to the neighboring country.

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On 10/6/2019 at 12:19 PM, Guest BritBoy said:

Anyone else cancelled their Arbaeen trip because of this? I’m so upset, this was meant to be my first visit to Karbala. 

If they severe our legs and hands we will crawl to the holy land 

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 A bedridden women being taken to Karbala for Arbaeen.

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I hope you go.

Photos courtesy:Thaqlain -Islamic Reminders 

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Imam Khamenei: Plot to sow discord between Iran, Iraq will fail

https://en.abna24.com/news//Imam-Khamenei-plot-to-sow-discord-between-Iran-Iraq-will-fail_980984.html

October 7, 2019 - 4:23 PM News Code : 980984 Source : Press TVLink: 

Imam Khamenei: Plot to sow discord between Iran, Iraq will fail

 

Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei has said that the Iranian and Iraqi nations are connected through faith and that an enemy plot seeking to sow discord between the two will fail.

"Iran and Iraq are two nations whose hearts & souls are tied together through faith in God, love for Imam Hussein and the progeny of the Prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)). This bond will grow stronger day by day," the Leader's official Twitter account cited Ayatollah Khamenei as saying on Sunday.

ran's judiciary chief:

American-Saudi plot to provoke unrest in Iraq foiled

https://en.abna24.com/news//American-Saudi-plot-to-provoke-unrest-in-Iraq-foiled_981009.html

October 7, 2019 - 6:37 PM News Code : 981009 Source : MehrLink: 

American-Saudi plot to provoke unrest in Iraq foiled

 

The Iranian Judiciary Chief Hojjatoleslam Seyyed Ebrahim Raeisi says that the enemies failed to hinder massive Arbaeen processions by provoking protests in Iraq.

Speaking on Monday in a meeting of the Supreme Council of the Judiciary, Ebrahim Raeisi referred to the recent unrest in Iraq, saying that certain hands from outside were trying to create seditions in Iraq ahead of the great event of Arbaeen.

The Judiciary chief blamed American-Saudi perpetrators for the unrest, adding that they aimed to sow divisions between the Iranian and Iraqi nations.

Raeisi added that the latest foreign-orchestrated conspiracy against Iraq was thwarted through the vigilance of the Iraqi people and government, calling for taking appropriate measures on both sides of the border for the Arbaeen pilgrimage to be held in the best way possible.

Every year, millions of Shia and Sunni Muslims, as well as Christians and Zoroastrians, etc. from various nationalities depart for the holy Iraqi cities of Najaf and Karbala to commemorate the 40th day (Arbaeen in Arabic) after the martyrdom of Imam Hussein (عليه السلام) in the battle of Karbala on Ashura Day in 680 AD.

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On 10/6/2019 at 8:19 AM, Guest BritBoy said:

Anyone else cancelled their Arbaeen trip because of this? I’m so upset, this was meant to be my first visit to Karbala. 

See above... 

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08Oct19 1800hrsEDT/NYC

BBC reports Green Zone reopened; Turkish convoys heading for Syria; the US left behind captured lSlL fighters.

Sadr City as "flashpoint"; 1/3 of Baghdad's population.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-Iraq-protests-violence-analysis/after-bloodshed-hits-flashpoint-district-Iraq-scrambles-to-stem-violence-idUSKBN1WN21O 

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08Oct19

DeutscheWelle broadcasted that there are 6,000 wounded, but no mention of additional deaths.

Trump-lSlL-Kurds-SDF-Turkey

From:(2) https://time.com/5694437/turkey-Syria-Trump-ypg-kurds/   &  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/mideast/top-kurdish-general-watching-over-isis-prisoners-now-second-priority-n1063496 

11,000 to 12,000 captured 'terrorists' of which 2,000 are 'foreign fighters' and the rest Syrian or lraqi in 30 different POW camps.

Kurds/SDF moving to block/meet Turkish Army because most have families along the border. Will leave the prisoners "to their own devices".

Pentagon is about bent-out-of-shape and protested this decision

IS is already/has been recently  in resurgent mode and has 'terror cells' inside Turkey.

70,000 IS family members are at Camp Hol.

 

OPINE: Guess who is likely going to Sadr City? ln the link in the just above post, Sadr City is a threat to lraq's overall stability and hence the gov't.

And you know what that indicates.

 

 

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Iraqi President calls for national dialog, deplores attacks on protesters, security forces

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October 8, 2019 - 12:03 PM News Code : 981155 Source : Press TVLink: 

Iraqi President calls for national dialog, deplores attacks on protesters, security forces

 

Iraq’s President Barham Salih has condemned as “unacceptable’’ the recent acts of violence targeting protesters, journalists and security forces amid a spate of unrest gripping the Arab country, warning against foreign attempts to fish in troubled waters.


The initially peaceful protests, however, turned ugly after armed elements and violent rioters entered the scene, starting to vandalize public property and attempting to enter the Green Zone in Baghdad — which houses government offices and foreign diplomatic missions.

The rioters also attempted to take over local TV stations in the capital Baghdad over the weekend after the government removed a days-long curfew.

On Sunday, the Interior Ministry said 104 people, including eight security officers, had been killed and more than 6,000 people wounded in the mayhem.

Iraqi officials say there are “malicious hands” and “infiltrators” behind the killing of both protesters and security forces during the unrest.

He asked the protesters “to join a constructive and genuine dialog within the national framework that guarantees informing the people about the steps of reform, and holding direct and daily meetings with our youth in all cities.”


Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, Iraq’s top Shia cleric, has urged both security forces and protesters to avoid violence.
 

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info entered: Thursday,10OOct19  before0200edt

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2019/10/Iraq-deadly-sniper-attacks-and-intimidation-as-protesters-face-intensifying-crackdown/     -death toll now 150; Gov;t denies knowing who snipers are; people prevented from hospitalization

CNN reports "Baghdad's streets are eerily quiet, punctuated with smatterings of gunfire..."

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0400 10Oct19

CBS Morning News 

Turkey shelled or bombed 181 targets in Syria.

An unidentified -by CBS-  "human rights group" says 11 people killed.

Some "unrest" at the 30 facilities while SDF "struggles" to maintain order.

Kurdish commanders are saying they were "stabbed in the back" by the US withdrawl.

Pres. Trump said Wednesday that the US had only 50 troops remaining in that area. (The US has done intermittant withdrawls for about a year before this last unit.)

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