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8 minutes ago, Kaya said:

Presstv are also not credible. They are heavily Pro Iranian and they have huge bias toward protester.

There are now two reports..

1. Police force have said that the boy killed over 6 people and he was wanted over drug problem.

2. The Family reports say that the boy was frustrated with the protester because they were protesting very near his home and he called them go to Tahrir square to protest. The protester refused.. So the boy took his AK4 and stared shoot from Roof top.. The police was called over this event. They raider the building and took the boy. The family members claimed that police handed the boy over protester and they gave them order to kill him.  There are many cases where Militants groups shoot people from roof top with sniper. So these groups of people tough this guy was militants guy.. Thats why they killed him this way. The boy was wrong time in wrong place which very sad.

Here is source https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/Iraq/13122019

 

If this all true the Police force are hugely responsible for this. Instead of arresting the boy they handed it for protester to kill him.

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13 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

Why not stop guessing falsehood before to dare to talk about Imam Hussain

 

13 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

mujrim person

Lol practice what you preach! 

You say don't guess falsehood but then accuse a lynching victim of being mujrim. Did you personally know him to be 100% that he is mujrim? Maj of the news I read said that he was an ordinary teenager boy trying to ward off protesters from his house. 

Why don't YOU stop guessing falsehood before you mention the name of Imam Hussein?

As for me "guessing", it is no guess. The videos I linked speak for themselves, and leave no room for guessing. What was done was UnIslamic and the hundreds of protesters standing by show the general features of the protesters. They are all as guilty as the ones that commited the crime. 

13 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

Ayotullah Sistani is guiding the masses to stay peacefully and don't follow these kind of actions

Yes I support the peaceful protesters. But the events of lynching show that the maj of the Iraqi protesters are seriously misguided and have serious serious issues!

They have to make a U turn and protest in accordance with Sayed Sistanis guidelines and follow his advice. 

Yes, protest and bring down the corrupt government in Iraq. But do so with Sayed Sistani as your guide and follow his will when selecting the next government, and don't deviate from his words and inch. 

The events of the lynching show what happens when people go about things their own way and forget about Sayed Sistani. 

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6 minutes ago, Guest Sunshine said:

 

If this all true the Police force are hugely responsible for this. Instead of arresting the boy they handed it for protester to kill him.

This is full on psychological denial. Did you not see the video where thousands of protesters stand by while the body is mutilated and raised on a traffic light??

And now let's blame the police....  NO, it was the protesters! 

(btw this does in no way prove the innocence of the corrupt government, but this is not about them in this event) 

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Lol practice what you preach! 

You say don't guess falsehood but then accuse a lynching victim of being mujrim. Did you personally know him to be 100% that he is mujrim? Maj of the news I read said that he was an ordinary teenager boy trying to ward off protesters from his house.

 

Subhan'Allah, we are talking about the guy who killed 6 innocent people. I don't  know where do you get false news telling it was an ordinary teenager boy trying to ward off protesters from his house...what nonsense is this.

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As for me "guessing", it is no guess. The videos I linked speak for themselves, and leave no room for guessing. What was done was UnIslamic and the hundreds of protesters standing by show the general features of the protesters. They are all as guilty as the ones that commited the crime. 

Lol you just guessed here; ''I guess you would be among those who watched by and recorded on your phone. Shame on you."

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Yes I support the peaceful protesters. But the events of lynching show that the maj of the Iraqi protesters are seriously misguided and have serious serious issues!

Sistani cannot control every Iraqis and  even Sistani supporters are killing the protester in Tahrir square and in South Iraq. We are living society that has been produced by this government and militants group that have tremendous power. You need understand that this protest is treat to ruling elites and all Iranian backed armies. So they will do everything to destroy this protest movement. 

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10 minutes ago, Kaya said:

This is full on psychological denial. Did you not see the video where thousands of protesters stand by while the body is mutilated and raised on a traffic light??

And now let's blame the police....  NO, it was the protesters! 

(btw this does in no way prove the innocence of the corrupt government, but this is not about them in this event) 

 

This what the family member said. Even the Iraqi Human rights watch are blaming the police. These mobs tough this guy was militants shooter. They killed over 25 people week ago.

 

“On the third occasion, he shot one bullet into the air to make them go away,” she said. It was then that security forces intervened. 

“The emergency [forces] got him out of the house, then handed him over to them [protesters], telling protesters to kill him, to slay him,” said Ahmed.

 

Here is video.. Where Police rides the boys home

 

 

 

Here is video where the boy are shooting AK4 form roof top.

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Guest Sunshine said:

These mobs tough this guy was militants shooter.

Even if what you say is true, it doesn't justify the barbaric way that they tied him to a traffic light and mutilated his body. 

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Just now, Kaya said:

Even if what you say is true, it doesn't justify the barbaric way that they tied him to a traffic light and mutilated his body. 

It does not. But it does not either justify that these people represent majority of protesters.

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5 minutes ago, Kaya said:

Even if what you say is true, it doesn't justify the barbaric way that they tied him to a traffic light and mutilated his body. 

 

You are right and this why they should get arrested for this incident but please never blame all the protester for this. They are not all responsible for this. They don’t belong to any group.  They are independent and regular iraqis. There are criminals among  them but this would be case in every large protest. They don’t belong to CSI or Israel. We have  protested over 2 month and only one civilians has been killed by them.

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9 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

It does not. But it does not either justify that these people represent majority of protesters.

How many times do I have to point this out? There are videos of thousands of these protesters standing and looking at the lynching in complete silence, which can only be judged as support. 

If even a small percentage of them took action to stop the lynching, it would not have happened. 

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1 minute ago, Kaya said:

How many times do I have to point this out? There are videos of thousands of these protesters standing and looking at the lynching in complete silence, which can only be judged as support. 

If even a small percentage of them took action to stop the lynching, it would not have happened. 

Do you know why? Because the militants has butchered over hundreds people similar way past these month. They have caused huge anger. Just week ago the militants killed 25 people. Two days ago one of sniper killed two protester from roof top. People are becoming delusional. The government is also not securing the protester.. So some of them are taking law in their own hand.

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26 minutes ago, Kaya said:

How many times do I have to point this out? There are videos of thousands of these protesters standing and looking at the lynching in complete silence, which can only be judged as support. 

 

Again wrong judgement.

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If even a small percentage of them took action to stop the lynching, it would not have happened. 

Again wrong judgement too.

Wassalam.

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At times of Fitnah like these, one mustn't have knee-jerk reactions nor react on emotions or make generalisations and sweeping statements. Because that's exactly what the enemy wants us to do. 

Everyone agrees that what happened was horrible and barbaric. No one condones that sort of bevaiour. We also can't paint all the protestors with the same brush. 

No one knows what happened prior to the killing; whether he killed anyone or not still doesn't excuse what was done to him.

Sayed Sistani through his representative condemned ALL violence against everyone: protestors, activists and what happened to the boy. 

All the criminals responsible for crimes against protestors, activists and the boy must be held to account and punshied through the judiciary. No one has the right to take the law into their own hands. 

What happened was clearly not normal nor was it reflective of the protests which have generally been peaceful despite hundreds being killed and thousands being injured. 

I remind myself and urge you guys to please practice self-restraint before reacting to such issues and jumping to conclusions during these times of Fitnah. 

Wasalam. 

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@Moalfas As long as there is no reaction from the people saying "we have to rally around Sayed Sistani" I. e. make this an explicit Islamic protest, and explicitly call for an Islamic Government, then it is inevitable these barbaric events to repeat themselves. 

When the Islamic nature of the protest will be declared (based on Sayed Sistani) you'll instantly see all criminals distance themselves from the protests naturally. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Kaya said:

@Moalfas As long as there is no reaction from the people saying "we have to rally around Sayed Sistani" I. e. make this an explicit Islamic protest, and explicitly call for an Islamic Government, then it is inevitable these barbaric events to repeat themselves. 

Brother, Sayed Sistani himself has not called for a 'Islamic government'.

He has reiterated the importance of fighting corruption and keeping the protests peaceful as well as keeping weapons and arms in the hands of the government only.

He has also said that all the criminals who have killed, tortured, kidnapped, assassinated, dragged, hung etc must be brought to justice through the judiciary. 

What happend yesterday is absolutely horrendous and no one condones it. The culprits must be held to account. 

Also, remember, there's been hundreds of innocent protestors killed and thousands injured in cold blood too. The protests are still mostly peaceful despite the spilt blood. 

Two wrongs don't make a right. 

We cannot call all law enforcement or armed groups barbaric nor can we call all protestors barbaric. 

There are elements and forces (both inside and outside Iraq) trying to demonise law enforcement and there are elements trying to demonise the protests. We openly say all these crimes are condemned. But we cannot generalise. Not all Muslims are terrorists and not all protestors are guilty of what happened to the boy. 

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6 minutes ago, Kaya said:

@Moalfas As long as there is no reaction from the people saying "we have to rally around Sayed Sistani" I. e. make this an explicit Islamic protest, and explicitly call for an Islamic Government, then it is inevitable these barbaric events to repeat themselves. 

When the Islamic nature of the protest will be declared (based on Sayed Sistani) you'll instantly see all criminals distance themselves from the protests naturally. 

 

We had Islamic government over 16 years and nothing good has happened in Iraq since then. This how it goes every time.  Hakim, Sairoon, Dawa party, Fatah Alliance wins majority seats. Each party fight over MP seat for 1 year.. Each party represent their Strong hold areas  in south Iraq. The oil wealth is split over party supporters. If you are outsider or regular Iraqis.. You are out of luck. You cannot complain because these areas are ruled  De facto by the militants. Only way to get some benefit is to join these parties. This how they manage to be in power in each election. This is reason why Islamic government does not work in Iraq. These  parties does not care about all Iraqis as equal..Their only interest in Iraq is to keep their empire in power. Iraqi protester wants to get rid of this system which reason why all these Powerful clerics and militants leaders are anti Protester movement. Which why you are seeing protester burning their Headquarters. This why you are seeing Pro  Iran demonizing the protester. This why you are seeing Iran talking bad about these protester. 

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@Moalfas The best way to ensure that there is no corruption and crime is through an Islamic Government. Of course, I am not talking about the Iranian model, but rather one built on the guidance and leadership of Sayed Sistani.

Brother just think about Imam Ali's (عليه السلام) letter to the governor of Egypt in Nahjul Balagha. If Iraq was to adhere to the principles in that letter it would be free of injustice and corruption. Iraq should build itself on the principles laid out in that letter by Imam Ali. 

Islam is a viable option for Iraq. And in contrast we saw what brutality unislamic protests led to....

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I said before we all know who these militants groups are. Even PMU is becoming crazy. You cannot trust anybody in Iraq.

 

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Kaya said:

@Moalfas The best way to ensure that there is no corruption and crime is through an Islamic Government. Of course, I am not talking about the Iranian model, but rather one built on the guidance and leadership of Sayed Sistani.

Brother just think about Imam Ali's (عليه السلام) letter to the governor of Egypt in Nahjul Balagha. If Iraq was to adhere to the principles in that letter it would be free of injustice and corruption. Iraq should build itself on the principles laid out in that letter by Imam Ali. 

Islam is a viable option for Iraq. And in contrast we saw what brutality unislamic protests led to....

The Shia south are ruled by the top Cleric families. They will only care about their own empire. So this will never happen until all of these most powerful force in Iraq resign from government and get rid of their militants group. I don’t know why its so hard to make just one national army? Other civil countries does not have these groups.

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3 minutes ago, Kaya said:

@Moalfas The best way to ensure that there is no corruption and crime is through an Islamic Government. Of course, I am not talking about the Iranian model, but rather one built on the guidance and leadership of Sayed Sistani.

Iraq has just been through 16 years of corrupt politicians who used and abused the name of Islam whilst the country and people suffered. Even Sayed Sistani knows that an 'Islamic government' is not doable in these conditions.

He has the baseera and foresight to know that, which is why he hasn't called for such a thing. 

He cannot lead a government but he has been guiding the masses for 16 years and has kept the peace. By the Grace of Allah and the guidance of Sayed Sistani, Iraq has been spared serious Fitnah and dangers over the years.

 

3 minutes ago, Kaya said:

Brother just think about Imam Ali's (عليه السلام) letter to the governor of Egypt in Nahjul Balagha. If Iraq was to adhere to the principles in that letter it would be free of injustice and corruption.

Believe me brother, we all want that for the whole of humanity, but it's easier said than done. 

Realistically, we will only be 'free of injustice and corruption' during the time of the Imam AJF. 

You must take all the social/political/economic  variables into account which is what Sayed Sistani is doing before giving his guidance.

 

3 minutes ago, Kaya said:

Iraq should build itself on the principles laid out in that letter by Imam Ali. 

Islam is a viable option for Iraq

Iraq is currently going through a phase where most if not all the political leaders who claimed  to uphold 'Islamic values' have failed miserably and turned out to be corrupt criminals. 

There is a general backlash amongst the younger generations because of this.

This is part of the Fitnah and the test Iraq and all of us are being put through.

The best we can do is try to strengthen our Aqeeda and ask Allah Ta'ala to help us distinguish right from wrong during these Fitnahs.

We must also continue to speak out against injustice no matter who it may be without generalising or painting groups with the same brush. 

 

3 minutes ago, Kaya said:

. And in contrast we saw what brutality unislamic protests led to....

No brutality is acceptable or condoned; not what happened to the boy, and not what happened to the several hundred killed and thousands injured the past months.

The majority of the protests have actually been very Islamic in principle. They have shown courage, patience and selflessness in the face of bullets and guns. 

They might not have all stopped protesting to pray on time; but they stood around the ones praying and protected them from the tear gas.

They have shown patience in the face of months of brutality because Sayed Sistani told them to.

They have set up the same Arbaeen tents for Zuwar around protests and have been giving out free food daily.

 TukTuk drivers have turned their TukTuks to ambulances to transport the injured for free.

Regular Iraqis have been donating money for the TukTuk drivers' petrol.

Destitute women who have nothing and sell boxes of tissue on the streets to survive have been handing out tissue for free so people can cover their faces from tear gas.

Medics have set up tents offering free medical care to the injured.

Iraqis have come together, all walks of life, religious and secular in the face of the corrupt, asking for their human rights. The majority of which are 100 percent peaceful and supprted by Sayed Sistani to this day. 

So let us pray that Allah Ta'ala protects the innocent and guides us all throughout this Fitnah, so that we don't fall for it and turn against each other, because that's exactly what the enemy wants us to do.  

 

Wasalm 

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30 minutes ago, Moalfas said:

So let us pray that Allah Ta'ala protects the innocent and guides us all throughout this Fitnah, so that we don't fall for it and turn against each other, because that's exactly what the enemy wants us to do.  

Inshallah 

31 minutes ago, Moalfas said:

Iraq is currently going through a phase where most if not all the political leaders who claimed  to uphold 'Islamic values' have failed miserably and turned out to be corrupt criminals. 

I largely agree. But this should not cause scepticism to the point where we come to imagine that Islam is not an option for Iraq. 

32 minutes ago, Moalfas said:

Even Sayed Sistani knows that an 'Islamic government' is not doable in these conditions.

Yes, but I believe he has said in the past that an Islamic Government can be established when the maj of a country calls for it. So this can definitely be achieved in Iraq if the people call for it. 

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Salam,

It is very sad situation on what has transpired in Iraq since Saddam, then after US interventions in Gulf war, ISIS attack, and afterward. Iraqis have suffered too much.

When I was at Arbaen this year from Najaf to Karbala, Muslims were all united under the banner of Aba Abdillah.  Iraqis were so sacrificing in their hospitality to all, and you can really feel that if the same situation persists, and millions more coming in following years, the enemies of Islam will definitely get scare to the core.

The disunity among Iraqis lately make the enemies proud and happy.

I pray that situation in Iraq will change for a better, and Iraqis will shape their own future, find wise leader that they can follow, reduce violent approach, get rid of insidious hands that try to destroy the country, reduce poverty and corruption...whatever best for them.

We need stability and peace in Iraq....for the sake of coming back of Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام).  Only Iraqis can change their own situation.  We pray the situation will change for better soon.

It really hurt to what is happening in Iraq now.

Layman,

From Malaysia.

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11 hours ago, Guest Sunshine said:

On the third occasion, he shot one bullet into the air to make them go away,” she said. It was then that security forces intervened. 

you have no morality  & no dignity  because of that you are spreading any false &hateful information here against Ayatollah Sistani & his followers &Iran for clarification majority of Iraqis hold a gun in their house if they want to punish everyone for holding gun & firing a bullet to air for protection then all Iraqis must punish for that that by accusing him to killing multiple persons in protests  you showed your hateful & disgusting true face like as his killers , I my opinion you are mentally ill or you are from anti Shia & anti Iran persons like as Ba'athi trolls.

Ayatollah Sistani strongly condemns protesters’ gruesome lynching of teenager

https://en.abna24.com/news//ayatollah-Sistani-strongly-condemns-protesters’-gruesome-lynching-of-teenager_993452.html

December 13, 2019 - 4:52 PM News Code : 993452 Source : Press TVLink:   

Iraq’s top Shia cleric Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani has strongly condemned lynching of a 16-year-old teenager by a group of protesters in Baghdad’s Al Wathba Square, warning about the consequences of such brutality.

Ahlul Bayt News Agency (ABNA):

In a statement read out by his representative during a sermon on Friday, Ayatollah Sistani said the recurrence of such crimes will impact the stability of Iraq and peaceful demonstrations in the country.

The top cleric expressed regret that a huge crowd of people stood idly by and just watched and even participated in the heinous crime. He called for the punishment of those behind the violence.

“The gruesome murder and hanging of the victim is a crime whose perpetrators must be held accountable,” Ayatollah Sistani said.

On Thursday, a group of “protesters” in Baghdad stabbed into death and cut the throat of Haitham Ali Ismael before hanging him by his ankles.

The boy had been berating the protesters for three days for obstructing the street beside his house and making noise, but he had been largely ignored.

Witnesses said he climbed up onto the roof of his house on Thursday and began shooting in the air with a pistol in order to shoo the protesters away from his family’s home.

That prompted a mob of protesters to barge into his small house at the edge of the Al Wathba Square where Haitham lived with his mother and stabbed him for 17 times.

Then they took him outside, pulled off his clothes, dragged him bleeding through the streets, hung him by his ankles from a traffic light pole and cut his throat.

The boy, identified as Haitham Ali Ismael, had been berating the protesters for three days for obstructing the street beside his house and making noise, but he had been largely ignored.

On Thursday, witnesses said, he climbed up onto the roof of his house and began shooting in the air with a pistol in order to shoo the protesters away from his family’s home.

That prompted a mob of protesters to barge into his small house at the edge of the Al Wathba Square where Haitham lived with his mother and stabbed him for 17 times.

Then they took him outside, pulled off his clothes, dragged him bleeding through the streets, hung him by his ankles from a traffic light pole and cut his throat.

Fadhil Muhammad, a tuk-tuk driver, says he “was standing there when they hung this young man by a rope and tied him to the pole and then the rope was cut and the victim’s head fell on screws on the ground in the street and they entered into his head.”

Then they threw the boy on the bed of a police pickup truck, Muhammad said, “and in front of the police they began to slash his neck.”

https://en.abna24.com/news//mob-of-‘protesters’-lynch-Iraqi-teenager-in-gruesome-crime_993453.html


In his Friday statement, Ayatollah Sistani once again urged anti-government protesters to reject acts of violence.

“We stress the peaceful nature of the demonstrations and condemn murder and kidnapping,” he said.

The top cleric also noted that the lynching of the Iraqi teenager and similar incidents once again proved that only government forces should have the right to possess weapons.

Last Friday, armed men emerged from cars overnight, opening fire on protesters and killing at least 25 people who were in a building where many supporters of Muqtada al-Sadr gathered to stage demonstrations.

Sources said nearly 130 others were wounded by gunfire and stabbings which targeted protesters at the Sinak bridge near Tahrir Square. At least three of the dead were policemen.

The demonstrators called on the Iraqi military to intervene, but some soldiers were attacked when they arrived, adding to the confusion and forcing them to retreat.

No one has claimed responsibility for the lethal assaults, which have been rare since the protests began more than two months ago, but such assaults bear all the hallmarks of Takfiri terrorist groups.

The US was quick to implicate Hashd al-Sha'abi, a combination of some 40 groups of mostly Shia fighters as well as Sunnis and Christians, which are currently integrated into the regular armed forces.

The Iraqi Foreign Ministry on Monday summoned four Western ambassadors over “interference in internal affairs.”

Hashd al-Sha'abi sources have said the US was allowing Daesh to roam freely under its watch in Iraq’s western Anbar province.

https://en.abna24.com/news//ayatollah-Sistani-strongly-condemns-protesters’-gruesome-lynching-of-teenager_993452.html

https://en.abna24.com/news//mob-of-‘protesters’-lynch-Iraqi-teenager-in-gruesome-crime_993453.html

Ayatollah Sistani strongly condemns protesters’ gruesome lynching of teenager

Mob of ‘protesters’ lynch Iraqi teenager in gruesome crime

https://en.abna24.com/news//mob-of-‘protesters’-lynch-Iraqi-teenager-in-gruesome-crime_993453.html

December 13, 2019 - 4:58 PM News Code : 993453 Source : Press TVLink: 

Mob of ‘protesters’ lynch Iraqi teenager in gruesome crime

 

A group of “protesters” in Baghdad have, in an extremely brutal and shocking way, stabbed into death and cut the throat of a 16-year-old teenager before hanging him by his ankles.

The Tahrir Square encampment is reportedly a protest movement that seeks the radical overhaul of Iraq's political system.

"We've done more in two months than the state has done in 16 years," said Haydar Chaker, a construction worker from Babylon province, south of the capital.

Everyone has their role, from cooking bread to painting murals, with a division of labor and scheduled shifts, Asharq al-Awsat reported.

Sa’ad al-Muttalibi, an Iraqi parliamentarian and member of the State of Law Coalition in Baghdad, recently told Press TV that Saudi Arabia is playing a certain part, financing part of the demonstrations that have brought Iraq into chaos.

He also referred to Israel as a main manufacturer of the conspiracy. "Israel has been planning this for years alongside the Americans and Saudis, just they are not intelligent enough to create something like that but have the enough money to finance that.”

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8 hours ago, Guest Sunshine said:

This why you are seeing Pro  Iran demonizing the protester. This why you are seeing Iran talking bad about these protester. 

 pro Iranian media just exposed riots among protesters but they are supporting protesters until they don't insult Iran like as you .

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1 hour ago, hasanhh said:

So killing 6 people was just a lie to cover up their evil act?

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1 hour ago, Abu Nur said:

So killing 6 people was just a lie to cover up their evil act?

yes it was lie , he just shot to air for protection of his family but they spread rumors & related him to about previous killing that happened near Mr..Sadr office .which 

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@Abu Nur  @Ashvazdanghe

If he only shot into the air in that situation with the history of what went on before, then he was quite stupid. By shooting in any manner both paniced and angered people.  Shootin into the air like it was something he saw on TV is typical poor judgement that  teenagers are infamous for.

l think the whole mess is sad.

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4 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

Shootin into the air like it was something he saw on TV is typical poor judgement that  teenagers are infamous for.

shooting to the Air is a common practice in Iraq to warn other people or show happiness in wedding & gathering & most of Iraqis hold a gun or pistol in their homes for celebratings & speciall occasions  but this time it caused his death.

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15 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

shooting to the Air is a common practice in Iraq to warn other people or show happiness in wedding & gathering & most of Iraqis hold a gun or pistol in their homes for celebratings & speciall occasions  but this time it caused his death.

Thanx, that is true in West Asian cultures. l obviously wrote as an Amerikan thinks.

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13 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

shooting to the Air is a common practice in Iraq to warn other people or show happiness in wedding & gathering & most of Iraqis hold a gun or pistol in their homes for celebratings & speciall occasions  but this time it caused his death.

There are videos of him shooting with that gun. In one video he aimed his AK4  towards people but he did not shoot them. These people did not think he was innocent. I mean there has been many similar cases where militant man shoot people from roof top. For these people it was militant guy not innocent.

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3 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

 pro Iranian media just exposed riots among protesters but they are supporting protesters until they don't insult Iran like as you .

Pro Iranian did not expose anything. They will just choose news that appeals their world view. If this was bad news for pro Iranian they would just say it is fake news made by Usa. We don’t hate Iran as country. We hate Iran for meddling in our society which is causing huge amount violence and corruption. We are not living in fantasy world. We are living reality and in that reality we are witnessing many bad things. So this whole Iran hate did not just come out of nothing. There is not joker movement. You need to understand that we are living in very bad society. Some people that are starving and are out of jobs. Some of them will go in criminal path rather than following Islamic teaching. This is reality.  Demonizing these protester will just make the whole Iranian meddling as transparent as possible. Its not helping.

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17 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

you have no morality  & no dignity  because of that you are spreading any false &hateful information here against Ayatollah Sistani & his followers &Iran for clarification majority of Iraqis hold a gun in their house if they want to punish everyone for holding gun & firing a bullet to air for protection then all Iraqis must punish for that that by accusing him to killing multiple persons in protests  you showed your hateful & disgusting true face like as his killers , I my opinion you are mentally ill or you are from anti Shia & anti Iran persons like as Ba'athi trolls.

You accusing me of not having Morality or dignity? My source was boys family.  If this is fake news then you are claiming the boys family lying. Have you followed news lately? There are many Iran backed militants that are shooting protester from roof top. Just couple of days two  protester was killed by guy that was shooting sniper from roof top. Week ago 25 protester was killed by unknown militants guys. These people did not think he was innocent. They tough this guy was militants member shooting from roof top to try kill protester. This is why they killed the boy.  It is sad what happened for the boy and everybody that humiliated his body should be prosecuted.  I have never insulted Ayatollah Sistani. Im just talking about reality of situation. If I say Sistani does not old much of power any more. That is not insult.  The boy was in wrong time in wrong place.

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2 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

So killing 6 people was just a lie to cover up their evil act?

That 6 people killing report came from Security official. According to the boys brother. The security force was called when the boy started to shoot with his AK4 from roof top. Security force raided his place and they managed capture the boy. According the boys brother the Security force handed the boy for mobs and they gave them order to kill him. So is it possible that Security force wants cover this story with fake news so they will not be prosecuted.  If this family member story are true. The police had major role in this escalation.

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