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Hussain Haider Bilgrami

Did Gaddafi kidnap Sayyed Musa?

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I know this is an old subject, but did Gaddafi kidnap Sayyed Musa? I want proper sources and not just "well his 15th cousin said he did it so it must be true"

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Wallahu Alam. Gaddafi did do many things which were good and bad. If Gaddafi did kidnap him, it would make him a hypocrite however, as Gaddafi supported Iran in the Iran-Iraq war. Why would such a person kidnap a Shia when he sold arms to Iran?

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Qaddafi did a very limited support at start of war but betrayed to Iran after that saw that Iran doesn’t recognize him as self claimed caliph of Muslims based on his distorted view of Islam that created by him .

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Gaddafi's son, Said Ul Islam, said that Seyyed Musa never left Libya. Airlines couldn't confirm he left Libya, basically meaning there is no proof he left. Rifaat Al Assad claimed that Gaddafi planned to kill Seyyed Musa. I think the biggest proof was when Ahmad Ramadan (a previous Libyan official) told the story as well as gave names of the people involved.

Now what proof do you have that Gaddafi didn't do it? His son, airlines, a Syrian official, and a Libyan official prove that he did. If you don't have a reason to disbelieve them, and still believe Gaddafi didn't do it, it is out of stubbornness.

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3 hours ago, Hussain Haider Bilgrami said:

Just because someone stated that another guy did something doesn't mean it's true. 

True, but then you have to make it plausible the person making the statement had an interest is telling a lie. Why would his son lie about such a thing. I agree that Gaddaffi did both good and bad thing and his death was tragic and a betrayal by the Americans, but I don't think his innocence has been established in the mentioned case, so he would still be a suspect. Of Cause unless His son and the Syrian official did it them selves, but that has not been proven either.

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5 hours ago, Hussain Haider Bilgrami said:

Just because someone stated that another guy did something doesn't mean it's true. 

It wasn't one person. The airlines said there are no records of him leaving. His son Said he never left. When an official visits another country, they have body guard and/or people protecting them, provided by the country they're visiting, so there's no way someone who doesn't have ties with the government kidnapped him. An ex-high ranking Libyan official, who was close to Gaddafi, said Gaddafi did it, and even provided names of those included. A Syrian official, and Syria had close ties to Libya, said Gaddafi planned on killing him. At this point, we have so many proofs pointing towards him, as well as no proofs pointing to anyone else, so who else could it be?

To recap:

1. Airlines, Gaddafi's son, both said Seyyed never left Syria

2. A Syrian official said Gaddafi planned on killing the Seyyed.

3. An ex-Libyan official said the story and provided names.

 

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20 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Qaddafi did a very limited support at start of war but betrayed to Iran after that saw that Iran doesn’t recognize him as self claimed caliph of Muslims based on his distorted view of Islam that created by him .

Jazakallah for clearing that.

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What l found interesting in the past was not if-Q-did-it, but why.

Q was a strong supporter of the PLO. Musa Sadr's dispossed movement and its Amal militia were clashing with the PLO, supported Syrian troops in northern Lebanon (the Xian area) and so on. Last seen 31Aug78 while on a diplomatic visit, such an obvious 'disappearance' would take a US "ok" (as part of the US support for lsrael) to get away with it. The PLO attacked Sadr's successor, el-Husseini the following year.

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