ICYMI: Football's Blue Girl

[aaaz1618]

https://www.standard.co.United Kingdom/news/world/iranian-football-fan-dubbed-blue-girl-arrested-for-trying-to-watch-mens-game-dies-after-setting-a4233446.html?amp

A female football fan who snuck into an Esteghlal match disguised as a man has set herself on fire and died from her injuries.

I don't know if I was just asleep, but I don't remember hearing about her case in the first place, it's just very sad that it came to this and that she felt the only way to spark change was to set herself alight.

What exactly is the reason for not allowing women into stadiums in Iran?

[AliSaleh]

rip sister we wont forget ya

[Kaya]

30 minutes ago, aaaz1618 said:

t's just very sad that it came to this and that she felt the only way to spark change was to set herself alight.

Setting yourself ablaze is not a reasonable way to bring about change. If she thought that this was such an important political issue, she could have protested in some other non-lethal way that gains publicity - such as a hunger strike, talked to some news outlet, etc. 

She was clearly mentally ill to do this. All her life and future is gone just to protest entertainment restrictions... 

Not to mention that suicide is haram in Islam. 

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 9/10/2019 at 7:24 PM, aaaz1618 said:

https://www.standard.co.United Kingdom/news/world/iranian-football-fan-dubbed-blue-girl-arrested-for-trying-to-watch-mens-game-dies-after-setting-a4233446.html?amp

A female football fan who snuck into an Esteghlal match disguised as a man has set herself on fire and died from her injuries.

I don't know if I was just asleep, but I don't remember hearing about her case in the first place, it's just very sad that it came to this and that she felt the only way to spark change was to set herself alight.

What exactly is the reason for not allowing women into stadiums in Iran?

Salam must news about her are spreading through anti Iranian regime propaganda like as United Kingdom based news like a BBC only thing that I found about her is that she had history of severs depression (bipolarity )& unsuccessful suicide before this time but officially until now nothing said about her & only anti Iranian regime accounts in social media are spreading lies about her in name of oppression of women in Iran & turn it to another political scandal &  condolences from some Iranian Football players  there is only one picture available from her that attended like as boy in Azadi stadium but most of news mostly comes from Anti regime channels & United Kingdom based propaganda against Iran.

https://medal1.com/پدر-دختر-استقلالی-بازیکنی-سراغ-دخترم-نیامد-127826/

https://www.asriran.com/fa/news/687745/روایت-تازه-از-خودسوزی-دختر-جوان-مقابل-دادگاه-خواهرم-عاشق-استقلال-بود

https://www.hamshahrionline.ir/news/454506/واکنش-ها-به-مرگ-سحر-خدایاری-دختر-آبی-از-پروین-و-علی-کریمی

Edited September 12, 2019 by Hameedeh
Member requested to edit.

[hasanhh]

@Ashvazdanghe  your post matches Al-Jazeera's, which l read a few minutes ago.

Bipolar, and had attempted suicide before. Her family posted bail, but administrative delays left her incarcerated for three days.

[AliSaleh]

Iran team captain shohai also wrote about her death saying that even tho Iran one there game yesterday but we realy lost. respect

 

[Maryaam]

Mainstream Iranian media ignoring her death and the circumstances around it, did not make public knowledge of it disappear.  It only made it worse. This left the door open for anti-Iranian publications to have a field day as to the direction and content of the released news items. 

 

From what I read, the woman, who was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, was held in jail for several days.  Who knows whether she received her medication or any mental health support.  Prisons are definitely not known as bastions of humanitarian response nor are they staffed by the the most enlightened individuals.   

 

I don’t believe the her suicide can be a sin, as it was known that she was mentally unwell and, therefore, she cannot be held accountable.

 

Many people do not understand (nor accept without prejudice) mental illnesses and the fragilities of those afflicted. Mental illness is still, too often, backwardly seen as a character weakness (or even worse) - rather than a biological neurological dysfunction.  Those who suffer from bipolar disorder have a 25 - 30% suicidal ideation rate and, of those with suicidal ideation, approximately 15% complete their suicide. That rate is 20 times higher than that of the general population.  

 

Her death should be followed up by an examination of how she was cared for while in custody, with the focus on how to make improvements in the system. Also, due to the, now, high profile status of her death, it could be beneficial opportunity for the media to create an educational piece for the general public - highlighting the serious nature, and the very real possible lethal outcome, of bipolar disorder.  That would be the rational response.

 

[Mohammadi_follower]

Honnestly I don’t know at all what Islam say about letting women in sport stadium for watching sport practice by men however I want to say just two things here which would be very harsh probably.

First for me this is not because some put fire on himself that I would respect her or his ideas. I just want to remember people thak mko terrorists burnt themselves in France for letting their terrorist leader to be free so for me this is not because someone do such act that I will respect her.

Secondly suicide is forbidden in Islam and she just commited it actually so that will just put sadness in her family.

At the end of the day she did that to herself and this is not the responsability of iranian authorities.

[aaaz1618]

I think the issue is there was a lack of duty of care, I find it highly likely that what Maryam said about medication not being given could be true. Could also be she was going through an episode and the authorities have turned a blind eye.

[Guest What]

This is getting sympathy??!! I thought people would call her stupid to lose her life over some football event but apparently even the shiachatters feel sorry for her.

[AkhiraisReal]

I am sorry for the lost life, but................

who in the world kills themself for football? this make no sense, and it just shows how gullible people are when it comes to anti Iran propaganda.

What kind of sane person burns themself for football? and this is getting worldwide attention.

meanwhile we have militants that burn down houses and rape family members in burma and everyone is quiet.

stop with this nonsense circus.

 

[Guest To akhira]

58 minutes ago, AkhiraisReal said:

I am sorry for the lost life, but................

who in the world kills themself for football? this make no sense, and it just shows how gullible people are when it comes to anti Iran propaganda.

What kind of sane person burns themself for football? and this is getting worldwide attention.

meanwhile we have militants that burn down houses and rape family members in burma and everyone is quiet.

stop with this nonsense circus.

 

Umm thanks for completely ignoring my previous comment 

[AliSaleh]

iranian legend Ali karimi is telling everyone to not go to stadiums any more

[Simon the Canaanite]

Why would anyone end his life for a 90 minute game, though? Sad.

Edited September 11, 2019 by Simon the Canaanite

[Abu Nur]

14 minutes ago, Simon the Canaanite said:

Why would anyone end his life for a 90 minute game, though? Sad.

Mental illness can cause it.

[aaaz1618]

There appears a combination of people not grasping mental health and people feeling as though Iran has somehow been hard done by and made out to be a bad place by this evil axis called 'the west'. When the west trivialises tragedy in Muslim countries with their own tragedy, people get angry, but when the Muslims trivialise tragedy in their own lands by putting tin foil hats on and blaming the west, it's fair game.

Meanwhile the family of this lady and many more who have died due to this messed up world, whether it's due to oppression, greed, illness or anything in between, have to bury their loved ones and somehow get on with life. 

[Mzwakhe]

4 hours ago, aaaz1618 said:

Meanwhile the family of this lady and many more who have died due to this messed up world, whether it's due to oppression, greed, illness or anything in between, have to bury their loved ones and somehow get on with life. 

May Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) grant them (friends/family/& loved ones) strength through this trying times ia.

[Mzwakhe]

& what about segregation like in schools?

Edited September 12, 2019 by Mzwakhe

[Ashvazdanghe]

Salam statement of her father about lies that spread about her in social media , he says at first that picture of girl in stadium is not her daughter it also confirmed by owner of picture that is another girl & she said some people misused her picture & she is alive in advance father of bluegirl denied all claims of channels like as "MANOTO" & "BBC" and " Masi Alinejead" lies about burying her in unknown location & said based on her will they burry in city of Qom & his father dissociates from  any channel that spreads lies about her daughter & said he won't forgive them for their lies about her daughter 

حقیقت سناریوی دروغ دختر آبی از زبان پدر سحر خدایاری

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6djg_sECMGQ

 

Edited September 12, 2019 by Ashvazdanghe

[AliSaleh]

varzesh3 is reporting that for our next game in qulifyinh 5000 woman will be allowed in the stadium

[Mzwakhe]

21 hours ago, Guest What said:

I thought people would call her stupid to lose her life over some football event

- Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) gives life & He(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) takes life.

- The lady is said to have taken her life

- Bipolar disorder is said to be the reason behind her decision to take her life

- She was also said to be the 'voice' for women wanting to enter stadiums which influenced her decision.

So again, may Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) grant her family strength during this period & always.

10 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

dissociates from  any channel that spreads lies

Do you have a picture of the actual burning? was wondering if its a real picture & if so what is the cross doing there?

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 9/12/2019 at 6:53 PM, Mzwakhe said:

She was also said to be the 'voice' for women wanting to enter stadiums which influenced her decision.

So again, may Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) grant her family strength during this period & always.

On 9/12/2019 at 8:32 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

dissociates from  any channel that spreads lies

Do you have a picture of the actual burning? was wondering if its a real picture & if so what is the cross doing there?

Salam all of her action was based on her personal intention & she wasn't voice of any party even "women wanting to enter stadiums" but every anti Iranian Regime channel are speaking on her behalf that her father denied all of their claims & no picture or video released from her actual burning & it's under investigation because it's really fishy because she wasn't face any charge & fuel for her burning maybe provided by someone else .

[AliSaleh]

more news on dis. looks leik the women will be let in 4 next game

 

On match days Iran's young female soccer fans cram Tehran's shopping centres and cafes, their faces painted with the Iranian flag and beaming with excitement, as they follow their national team on giant television screens alongside male fans.

Iranian women have been banned from men's soccer matches at football stadiums in the country since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, but that has done nothing to dampen their determination to enjoy it.

Iranian female fans have long campaigned to be allowed to watch men's soccer and occasionally a limited number of women have been allowed into the stadium.

The death this month of a female fan who set herself on fire in protest at her arrest for attending a match has drawn international attention to women's exclusion. Iran is also under pressure from soccer's governing body FIFA on Iran to change its stance.

Following a match in a busy cafe, Iranian fan Somayyeh Rajabpour said "watching like this is more exciting."

Another female fan, Mahsa Alipour said "All the people love it. They love soccer a lot. For me personally, although I may not know much about soccer, I am so excited by the games."

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani's chief of staff said last week that women would be allowed into stadiums if foul language in chants and sporadic violence was curbed.

"We don't see a problem with women attending if the atmosphere in stadiums is convenient... but with so much foul language among fans and violence, this is not advisable,” Mahmoud Vaezi told state television.

Government spokesman Ali Rabiei told a news conference, "We believe that women can enter stadiums, but I am sure you agree that a portion of society is worried about their presence."

He said women would be present at Iran's game with Cambodia. "Their presence will increase step by step."

The move is seen as a first step towards opening national games to women.

Vaezi said the sports minister would contact leaders of supporter groups to "improve the atmosphere from a moral standpoint" and special areas for women would be set up in stadiums.

FIFA officials are expected to visit Iran on Wednesday, as part of preparations for Iran's World Cup qualifying games, the semi-official news agency YJC reported.

Sahar Khodayari, dubbed "Blue Girl" after her favourite team's colours, died in hospital just over a week ago after setting herself alight outside a court where she feared being jailed for six months. She had tried to attend a match disguised as a man.

"They do not let us inside the stadiums. But we were so good like this today, inside the shopping centre," said Atieh, who was among a group of men and women watching a soccer game at a cafe in Tehran. "Men did not say anything improper at all, and we were all together, all fine, watching the match."

A female architect, who did not give her name, said however that she objected to women at football stadiums, "because of the cultural problems we have, not just in grounds but even in our normal urban atmosphere."

[AliSaleh]

Wow so far they have opened 4 sectons of the stadium for women and all 4 have sold out. I think there going to open morw sections 4 them cuz there is still intrest.

[Guest Abu Talib]

On 10/4/2019 at 2:30 PM, AliSaleh said:

Wow so far they have opened 4 sectons of the stadium for women and all 4 have sold out. I think there going to open morw sections 4 them cuz there is still intrest.

alhamdulillah...

[AkhiraisReal]

ridiculous.

what's next? women burns herself and her hijab. Now everybody in Tehran takes of their hijab for her remembrance?

We don't even know the full story here or what the motives are. Let's just leave it there.

Edited October 5, 2019 by AkhiraisReal

[AliSaleh]

wow they have now incresed it to 10 thosand tix and they r still seling!

[Ashvazdanghe]

Demonstration against entering women to Stadium 

 

 

 

 

https://fa.abna24.com/news/اخبار-ایران/تجمع-اعتراضی-علیه-ورود-زنان-به-ورزشگاه_759044.html

Edited October 9, 2019 by Ashvazdanghe

[AliSaleh]

the game is tomorow and I think we will destroy cambodio

Thousands of Iranian women fans are to attend a football match freely Thursday for the first time in decades, after FIFA threatened to suspend the country over its controversial male-only policy.

The Islamic republic has barred female spectators from football and other stadiums for around 40 years, with clerics arguing they must be shielded from the masculine atmosphere and sight of semi-clad men.

World football's governing body FIFA ordered Iran last month to allow women access to stadiums without restriction and in numbers determined by demand for tickets.

The directive came after a fan dubbed "Blue Girl" died after setting herself on fire in fear of being jailed for dressing up as a boy to attend a match.

Women were quick to get their hands on tickets to attend Iran's 2022 World Cup qualifier against Cambodia at Tehran's Azadi Stadium on Thursday.

The first batch sold out in less than an hour, and additional seats were also snapped up in short order, state media said.

Iranian women were able to support their team during the 2018 World Cup in Russia Credit: Robbie Jay Barratt - AMA/Getty Images

The sports ministry said the 100,000-capacity stadium - whose name means "Freedom" in Farsi - was ready to host even more women.

One of the 3,500 women to have secured a ticket was Raha Poorbakhsh, a football journalist.

"I still can't believe this is going to happen because after all these years of working in this field, watching everything on television, now I can experience everything in person," she told AFP.

But Poorbakhsh said she was aware of many other women without tickets and some were expected to travel from as far away as Ahvaz in southern Iran in the hope of still getting one.

There have been rare occasions in recent years when Iranian women have been allowed to watch matches, but this time they were free to buy their own tickets, albeit a set number.

Those lucky enough to attend will be segregated from men and watched over by 150 female police officers.

People on the streets of Tehran said they supported the decision to allow women into stadiums.

The death of a female football fan sparked an investigation Credit: JONATHAN NACKSTRAND/AFP/Getty Images

"I would like there to be freedom for women, like men, to go freely and even sit side by side without any restrictions, like other countries," said a woman who gave her name only as Hasti.

Nader Fathi, who runs a clothing business, said the presence of women could improve the atmosphere in stadiums.

But he said "they will regret it" if they are exposed to "really bad swear words" and "bad behaviour".

The bumpy road Iranian women have travelled in order to gain free access to stadiums has not been without tragedy.

Sahar Khodayari died last month after setting herself ablaze outside a court in fear of being jailed for attending a match.

Dubbed "blue girl" because of the colours of the club she supported - Tehran giants Esteghlal FC - she had reportedly been detained last year when trying to enter a stadium dressed as a boy.

Her death sparked an outcry, with many calling for Iran to be banned and matches boycotted.

The judiciary dismissed reports she had been told she would be jailed, and Khodayari's father said she did not "sacrifice" herself for any cause.

 

 

[AliSaleh]

wooooooohooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!! 14-0 baby!!!!!!!!!!!

[hasanhh]

I never understood the conceptual difference between a 'segregated'/separate seating section in a classroom and separate seating in a stadium.

[Mohammadi_follower]

7 hours ago, hasanhh said:

I never understood the conceptual difference between a 'segregated'/separate seating section in a classroom and separate seating in a stadium.

What do you mean Hassan? 

[hasanhh]

18 minutes ago, Mohammadi_follower said:

What do you mean Hassan? 

If women can go into classrooms, mosques and shopping areas where men are, why not stadiums?

[Mohammadi_follower]

1 hour ago, hasanhh said:

If women can go into classrooms, mosques and shopping areas where men are, why not stadiums?

I think this is because men wear tiny shirts or some stuffs like that. I think men are also not supposed to go in stadium where women play. 

[Soldiers and Saffron]

Imagine caring about football.

Imagine caring about who watches and who does not watch football.

Imagine people from another place on Earth, caring about who watches and who doesnt watch football in an entire different part of the Earth.

 

Good thing theres not more important things to care about.