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Why do we neglect iftirash and tawarruk positions in salah?

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It is quite noticeable in most Shia mosques, but during tashahhud (2nd or last rakah) most people tend to sit with their feet folded on top the other but hardly ever do iftirash in the 2nd sitting (right foot upright) or tawarruk in the final sitting (sitting on left thigh, with right ankle placed in the left sole).

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From older threads on this there are narrations and rulings by marja.

But if these are only Sunnah or only mustahab, why do we diligently and almost strictly adhere to other mustahab acts like qunut in 2nd rakah or 3 takbirs after salaam?

While I am on the topic, even turning of the head after salam has also been neglected.

 

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You know what peeves me off, those mass regurgitated YouTube videos and social media posts that say something along the lines of '10 Most Common Mistakes During Salah' or those diagrams where you get a generic Salafi (face blurred out of course) with condescending ticks and crosses next to various 'wrong' positions. 

It's like being back at school, except the person marking your work is an 11 year old.

Anyway... That aside... I can't do the weight on the right foot thing, so I just sit on my feet. Is this something people do too?

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Putting the left leg under the right crus and sitting on the left thigh. This type of sitting during Tashahud in prayer is recommended (Mustahab)

خویی، شرح عروة الوثقی، ۱۴۱۸ق، ص ۱۷۷ و ۳۴۳

Khoei , explaining of Urwat al Wuthqa , p 177 , 343

http://fa.wikishia.net/view/تورک

https://www.islamquest.net/fa/archive/question/fa60970

https://www.medinaminds.com/Sunni-prayer-vs-Shia-prayer/

http://www.shiapen.com/fiqh/Shia-method-of-prayers-salat/open-hands.html

 

 

Chapter 21: Manner of Sitting

Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from ibn Abu 'Umayr from those whom he has mentioned (in his book) from Abu Hamza al-Thumali who has said the following:



"I saw Ali ibn al-Husayn, recipient of divine supreme 
covenant, when sitting place one foot over his thigh. I said, 
'People dislike this sitting posture and say, "It is the sitting 
posture of the Lord.'" The Imam said, 'I sit this way to relieve 
myself of tiredness. The Lord does not tire and slumber or sleep 
cannot overcome Him.'" 

 

Share...Chapter: 21, Hadith: 3704, Number: 2

Chapter 21: Manner of Sitting
Abu Ali al-Ash'ari has narrated from Mu' Alla ibn Muhammad from al- Washsha' from Hammad ibn 'Uthman who has said the following:


"Once Abu 'Abd Allah, recipient of divine supreme covenant, 
was sitting with his right foot on his left thigh. A man said, 'May 
Allah keep my soul in service for your cause, this sitting posture 
is not desirable.' The Imam said, 'It is not so. That is a thing the 
Jews say that when Allah, the Most Majestic, the Most Holy, 
finished creating the heavens and Earth and took His place on the 
Throne, He sat in this posture to rest and relax. Allah, the Most 
Majestic, the Most Holy, revealed 255 of Chapter 2 of the Holy 
Qur'an, "Allah exists. No one deserves to be worshipped except 
Allah, the Everlasting and the Guardian of life. Drowsiness or 
sleep does not seize him. . . .'" (2:255) Abu 'Abd Allah, 
recipient of divine supreme covenant, continued to remain in 
that sitting posture.'" 

Share... Chapter: 21, Hadith: 3707, Number: 5

http://www.fourshiabooks.com/hadith/al-kafi/8/21/5

 

Kitab Al-Kafi Book # 8: The Book of Social Discipline
Chapter 21: Manner of Sitting
A number of our people have narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn Khalid from al-Nawfali from 'Abd al-'Azim ibn 'Abd Allah ibn al-Hassan al-'Alawi in a marfu' manner from the Imam who has said the following:


"The Holy Prophet would sit with three postures: al-Qurfusa . 
In this posture both knees are up and one holds them with both 
arms and hands around them, folding both legs backwards so 
one can sit on them and one leg folded and the other spread over 
the folded one. He was never seen sitting with legs squared." 

Share... Chapter: 21, Hadith: 3703, Number: 1

http://www.fourshiabooks.com/hadith/al-kafi/8/21/1

 
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48 minutes ago, Propaganda_of_the_Deed said:

@Ashvazdanghe so in simple terms, what are you suggesting by your post? 

 

Salam it's a mustahab Act but Sunni way by putting down toes is not true & considers Makruh by Shia fiqh & you must put the bridge of foot on Earth that is mustahab at end of Namaz when you recite both Tashahud & Salam but during Namaz that you rise up is Makruh.

http://wiki.isca.ac.ir/wiki/index.php/تورک_در_نماز

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