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Saudi journalist accused of being a traitor for being part of a delegation of Arab journalists visiting Israel attacked by Palestinians at Al Aqsa.

Some hurled abuse, threw chairs and spat at him.

 

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On 7/23/2019 at 6:15 PM, Propaganda_of_the_Deed said:

Saudi journalist accused of being a traitor for being part of a delegation of Arab journalists visiting Israel attacked by Palestinians at Al Aqsa.

Some hurled abuse, threw chairs and spat at him.

 

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Wth look at his face looks like some dajjal

 

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Lol this is funny, and just so you know how hypocritical the trash of Hamas are, go and ask them if they supported throwing sandals and objects at those who fund + house them, but have also visited Tel Aviv, like Erdogan and certain Qatari officials, like the Emir.

On 7/24/2019 at 12:35 AM, Soldiers and Saffron said:

Very nice to see that the people of Palestine are waking up to the reality of things.

Yes, Israel is scared now, Palestinians are now waking up because they threw rocks at a Saudi journalist. :hahaha: Netanyahu is trembling. 

Listen, everyone knows the Saudis and others could care less about Palestine, and in fact they see the whole conflict as a meaningless distraction. Even if the entirety of Palestine went against Saudi Arabia, -which they won't because Saudi has strong influence in Palestinian leadership and aid money - it still won't change a thing. Nothing will change. 

On 7/24/2019 at 8:28 AM, realizm said:

InshaAllah, all that money kept them silent all these years.

Whether they're silent or whether they're shouting, they will always achieve nothing because their leadership are a bunch of clowns and trash. The reality of Gaza and Palestine is this:

- only around 30% of Palestinians believe Shi'a are Muslim (Pew Poll)

- Palestinians are known to be hardcore Saddamists, with statues and pictures of Saddam visible to the public, with Palestinians organising ceremonies commemorating his death or as they say, "martyrdom" (LOL), and the fact is they openly supported Saddam's war on Iran - from Arafat and PLO's own mouth.

- Hamas, which enjoys large support in Gaza, bit the hand which was feeding them for many years, by refusing to support Assad's regime, and instead - the Hamas affiliated media was promoting certain rebel factions which aimed to topple his regime. 

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5 hours ago, Sumerian said:

Lol this is funny, and just so you know how hypocritical the trash of Hamas are, go and ask them if they supported throwing sandals and objects at those who fund + house them, but have also visited Tel Aviv, like Erdogan and certain Qatari officials, like the Emir.

Yes, Israel is scared now, Palestinians are now waking up because they threw rocks at a Saudi journalist. :hahaha: Netanyahu is trembling. 

Listen, everyone knows the Saudis and others could care less about Palestine, and in fact they see the whole conflict as a meaningless distraction. Even if the entirety of Palestine went against Saudi Arabia, -which they won't because Saudi has strong influence in Palestinian leadership and aid money - it still won't change a thing. Nothing will change. 

Whether they're silent or whether they're shouting, they will always achieve nothing because their leadership are a bunch of clowns and trash. The reality of Gaza and Palestine is this:

- only around 30% of Palestinians believe Shi'a are Muslim (Pew Poll)

- Palestinians are known to be hardcore Saddamists, with statues and pictures of Saddam visible to the public, with Palestinians organising ceremonies commemorating his death or as they say, "martyrdom" (LOL), and the fact is they openly supported Saddam's war on Iran - from Arafat and PLO's own mouth.

- Hamas, which enjoys large support in Gaza, bit the hand which was feeding them for many years, by refusing to support Assad's regime, and instead - the Hamas affiliated media was promoting certain rebel factions which aimed to topple his regime. 

:salam:

You are unfortunately basing an analysis on the last 15-20 years of Saudi-wahabisation of the region's conflicts, brushing away a more important aspect of the struggle, its pan-Arab or pan-Islamic aspect -not sure which one of the two is more correct.

Remember what happened in 2000 when French PM Lionel Jospin visited Ramallah and dared to call Hezbollah terrorists in front of student and academicians. He was stoned by a crowd chanting 'with our souls and blood, we sacrifice for you Lebanon'.

 

The fact the leaders are trash now is not a valid argument to me. The former Sulta leaders were corrupt, I could say that was it the reason why they supported Saddam. This does prove anything regarding the people.

A PEW poll ? Lol please.

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2 hours ago, realizm said:

:salam:

You are unfortunately basing an analysis on the last 15-20 years of Saudi-wahabisation of the region's conflicts, brushing away a more important aspect of the struggle, its pan-Arab or pan-Islamic aspect -not sure which one of the two is more correct.

Lol what does that even mean?

2 hours ago, realizm said:

lRemember what happened in 2000 when French PM Lionel Jospin visited Ramallah and dared to call Hezbollah terrorists in front of student and academicians. He was stoned by a crowd chanting 'with our souls and blood, we sacrifice for you Lebanon'.

You mean the same Palestinians in 2000 that were out in the street dancing for Saddam? And forget it now, Hezbollah's clout in Palestine has largely faded due to the intervention in Syria. You can blame largely Aljazeera and other Arab media for that, for constant anti-Hezbollah attacks. The fact is this: most Palestinians sided with the Syrian uprising. 

A French minister was attacked in Ramallah in 2,000? Habibi, this is 2019. 

brother if this was 2,000, everyone in those video would have praised Hezbollah. This isn't 2,000 anymore lol. The fact is the anti-Iranian Arab media (especially "friendly" Qatari Aljazeera) has been ruthless and largely successful in its goals.

And it is strange you laugh at the Pew poll. Do you dismiss any and every poll that does not suit your narrative? This is the truth: Sunni Arabs (to whom Palestinians are part of) simply do not like Shi'as. That's just the fact. Pandering to the Sunni Arabs is a misguided strategy. 

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9 hours ago, Sumerian said:

Lol this is funny, and just so you know how hypocritical the trash of Hamas are, go and ask them if they supported throwing sandals and objects at those who fund + house them, but have also visited Tel Aviv, like Erdogan and certain Qatari officials, like the Emir.

Yes, Israel is scared now, Palestinians are now waking up because they threw rocks at a Saudi journalist. :hahaha: Netanyahu is trembling. 

Listen, everyone knows the Saudis and others could care less about Palestine, and in fact they see the whole conflict as a meaningless distraction. Even if the entirety of Palestine went against Saudi Arabia, -which they won't because Saudi has strong influence in Palestinian leadership and aid money - it still won't change a thing. Nothing will change. 

Whether they're silent or whether they're shouting, they will always achieve nothing because their leadership are a bunch of clowns and trash. The reality of Gaza and Palestine is this:

- only around 30% of Palestinians believe Shi'a are Muslim (Pew Poll)

- Palestinians are known to be hardcore Saddamists, with statues and pictures of Saddam visible to the public, with Palestinians organising ceremonies commemorating his death or as they say, "martyrdom" (LOL), and the fact is they openly supported Saddam's war on Iran - from Arafat and PLO's own mouth.

- Hamas, which enjoys large support in Gaza, bit the hand which was feeding them for many years, by refusing to support Assad's regime, and instead - the Hamas affiliated media was promoting certain rebel factions which aimed to topple his regime. 

What are you doing brother ?

Why do not you look at Baitul Muqqadas and Masjid-al-Aqsa rather you look at people ? Do not think that you are opposing Palestinans but not the Masjid al Aqsa and Baitul Muqaddas. Imam Ali (عليه السلام) remained in Medina and among Kafireen to save the values and heritage of Islam. Was not Imam Ali (عليه السلام) and Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) living among their enemies but even then Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) left Mecca so that it may not be polluted. 

Besides in the video which you sent, how are you sure that the interviewer aired all interviews and not the selected ? 

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11 hours ago, Flying_Eagle said:

What are you doing brother ?

Why do not you look at Baitul Muqqadas and Masjid-al-Aqsa rather you look at people ? Do not think that you are opposing Palestinans but not the Masjid al Aqsa and Baitul Muqaddas. Imam Ali (عليه السلام) remained in Medina and among Kafireen to save the values and heritage of Islam. Was not Imam Ali (عليه السلام) and Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) living among their enemies but even then Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) left Mecca so that it may not be polluted. 

Besides in the video which you sent, how are you sure that the interviewer aired all interviews and not the selected ? 

I never said anything about Bayt Ul-Maqdis, I replied to a comment mentioning Palestinians. 

The fact of the matter is the interviewer found many anti-Shi'a and anti-Iran Palestinians, and they were proudly saying it in the middle of Palestine. What does this mean? They don't appreciate support. 

That's why Saddam's statue still rises high in the West Bank.

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13 hours ago, Sumerian said:

Lol what does that even mean?

You mean the same Palestinians in 2000 that were out in the street dancing for Saddam? And forget it now, Hezbollah's clout in Palestine has largely faded due to the intervention in Syria. You can blame largely Aljazeera and other Arab media for that, for constant anti-Hezbollah attacks. The fact is this: most Palestinians sided with the Syrian uprising. 

A French minister was attacked in Ramallah in 2,000? Habibi, this is 2019. 

brother if this was 2,000, everyone in those video would have praised Hezbollah. This isn't 2,000 anymore lol. The fact is the anti-Iranian Arab media (especially "friendly" Qatari Aljazeera) has been ruthless and largely successful in its goals.

And it is strange you laugh at the Pew poll. Do you dismiss any and every poll that does not suit your narrative? This is the truth: Sunni Arabs (to whom Palestinians are part of) simply do not like Shi'as. That's just the fact. Pandering to the Sunni Arabs is a misguided strategy. 

That means the Arab/Muslim street -not sure which term is more correct- is just jumping the bandwagon when some of their pairs are confronting the oppressor. Simple as that.

There was such a support towards Hezbollah in the 90s, in 2000 and 2006, probably in the whole Arab/Muslim world except for Saudi sellouts who forbade pro-Hezb demonstrations. Not sure why you are occulting this fact.

Palestinians dancing for Saddam in 2000 ? Well it's just the same story. They support the most vocal for their cause, had it been Nasrallah, Saddam or Qaddhafi. As long as it does not contradict their monetary agenda of course.

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6 minutes ago, realizm said:

That means the Arab/Muslim street -not sure which term is more correct- is just jumping the bandwagon when some of their pairs are confronting the oppressor. Simple as that.

And whose bandwagon are they on right now? Cause it certainly isn't Iran.

7 minutes ago, realizm said:

There was such a support towards Hezbollah in the 90s, in 2000 and 2006, probably in the whole Arab/Muslim world except for Saudi sellouts who forbade pro-Hezb demonstrations. Not sure why you are occulting this fact.

I never discredited that. I said the Arab media, probably since the Syrian uprising, has largely been successful in its propaganda against not just the Government of Iran and its allies, but against Shi'as in general. Sunni Arabs do NOT like Shi'as, this is simply the truth. That's why the most followed Sunni clerics online all happen to agree on one thing: anti-Shi'ism. 

9 minutes ago, realizm said:

Palestinians dancing for Saddam in 2000 ? Well it's just the same story. They support the most vocal for their cause, had it been Nasrallah, Saddam or Qaddhafi. As long as it does not contradict their monetary agenda of course.

:hahaha: What a great people

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4 minutes ago, Sumerian said:

And whose bandwagon are they on right now? Cause it certainly isn't Iran.

I never discredited that. I said the Arab media, probably since the Syrian uprising, has largely been successful in its propaganda against not just the Government of Iran and its allies, but against Shi'as in general. Sunni Arabs do NOT like Shi'as, this is simply the truth. That's why the most followed Sunni clerics online all happen to agree on one thing: anti-Shi'ism. 

:hahaha: What a great people

Shia Arabs do not like Sunni Arabs for the exact same reasons. They have no sense of equity in their judgements. You are the perfect example.

Great people ? Weren't you criticizing Iran's role in Iraq ? Blaming Iran for the situation of your country.

Not sure what we should think about people like you then ?

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2 hours ago, Sumerian said:

I never said anything about Bayt Ul-Maqdis, I replied to a comment mentioning Palestinians. 

The fact of the matter is the interviewer found many anti-Shi'a and anti-Iran Palestinians, and they were proudly saying it in the middle of Palestine. What does this mean? They don't appreciate support. 

That's why Saddam's statue still rises high in the West Bank.

You should think of securing Deen's holy sites first and then think about people. First thing first which is important and next thing is that you never know if people like Zakazaky rise among them due to your support.

 

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2 hours ago, Sumerian said:

And whose bandwagon are they on right now? Cause it certainly isn't Iran.

I never discredited that. I said the Arab media, probably since the Syrian uprising, has largely been successful in its propaganda against not just the Government of Iran and its allies, but against Shi'as in general. Sunni Arabs do NOT like Shi'as, this is simply the truth. That's why the most followed Sunni clerics online all happen to agree on one thing: anti-Shi'ism. 

:hahaha: What a great people

Salam this reaction against Saudi visitor was done by people not Hamas that is corrupted by pan Arabism & influence of Whabi doctrine of KSA also Palestinians like as Egyptians were under dominance of Fatimids that majority of Shias prescuted by Salahedin after conquering Jerusalem that still have some Shia based core beliefs even they deny it under influence of pan Arabism & influence of Wahabism 

2 hours ago, realizm said:

Shia Arabs do not like Sunni Arabs for the exact same reasons. They have no sense of equity in their judgements. You are the perfect example.

Great people ? Weren't you criticizing Iran's role in Iraq ? Blaming Iran for the situation of your country.

Not sure what we should think about people like you then ?

There is a good harmony between Shias & Sunnis in Iraq the matter of hatred is among few Ba'athi fans but they are majority & majority of them are silent because they exposed during their cooperation with ISIS but still are cooperating with Saudi backed media & spreading hatred like as MKO terrorists in social media but their affect on real world is very limited.

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7 minutes ago, realizm said:

:salam:

@Ashvazdanghe MKO ? Can we stay on topic please lol. 

I know but they are like as Saddamist toward Iraq ,I just said mentioned it for example because they are very active  against supporting of Iran from Palestinians & Sheikh Zakzaky like as pan Arab channels that are poisoning minds of Palestinians in other hand against Iran & Shias that both are receiving support from KSA.

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3 hours ago, realizm said:

Shia Arabs do not like Sunni Arabs for the exact same reasons. They have no sense of equity in their judgements. You are the perfect example.

Good. That's a good thing. We shouldn't pander to them, because they don't pander to us. Even better.

3 hours ago, realizm said:

Great people ? Weren't you criticizing Iran's role in Iraq ? Blaming Iran for the situation of your country.

Lol, and what does that have to do with me saying Palestinians and Sunni Arabs hate Shi'as?

3 hours ago, realizm said:

Not sure what we should think about people like you then ?

Well all I know is I'm better than a Mu'awiyah and Saddam lover. 

3 hours ago, Flying_Eagle said:

You should think of securing Deen's holy sites first and then think about people. First thing first which is important and next thing is that you never know if people like Zakazaky rise among them due to your support.

Good. No one is against liberating Holy Sites, no one has argued against that. I am arguing against pandering to people that hate you. 

This is the fact: Iranians have spent billions of dollars in aiding Palestinian militancy, with no real result - in fact those whom Iran gave money to, bit the hand that fed them. You do not keep feeding a lizard after it has bit you. 

Secondly, none of the money you give to Palestinians actually reaches the Palestinian people. Hamas and PLO maintain a stronghold on Palestinian leadership, any and all money goes to them. What do they do with it? Well Hamas leaders use it to live a comfortable life in Qatar and Turkey, PLO use it to live a comfortable life in KSA and UAE. All media is controlled. The situation is hopeless.

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3 hours ago, Sumerian said:

Good. No one is against liberating Holy Sites, no one has argued against that. I am arguing against pandering to people that hate you. 

This is the fact: Iranians have spent billions of dollars in aiding Palestinian militancy, with no real result - in fact those whom Iran gave money to, bit the hand that fed them. You do not keep feeding a lizard after it has bit you. 

Secondly, none of the money you give to Palestinians actually reaches the Palestinian people. Hamas and PLO maintain a stronghold on Palestinian leadership, any and all money goes to them. What do they do with it? Well Hamas leaders use it to live a comfortable life in Qatar and Turkey, PLO use it to live a comfortable life in KSA and UAE. All media is controlled. The situation is hopeless.

First you opposed Palestinians for being anti-Shia and played the Shia card so that you may convince Shias that Iran should not support them, then when I asked you is not safeguarding of Holy Places our responsibilities ? then you switched about PLO and Hamas because Iran give them aid. I think you are anti-iranian brother to be very specific. You do not want that there be less enmity between Iran and Arabs, Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) offered his murderers for peace even after his sons, brothers and companions were killed. If Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) can offer peace to those then why not to Palestinians ? I believe that you are convinced that no any good is likely to come from Palestinians, which is not accurate belief because no any human can claim to know future. 

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OMG I can’t STOP LAUGHING :hahaha: 

Just now in one Lebanese channel, they talk about this pervert journalist. He actually went to Israel to meet Jewish girl and date them. He uploaded his pictures in tinder and guess what? NO ONE LIKED HIS PICTURE :hahaha:

So he went to Masjid al aqsa praying to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) for dating a Jewish girl. Instead he got kicked. 

I just wish I have the source, I watched it in tv.

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4 hours ago, realizm said:

Just that you are doing the same as what you accuse them of. Iranians spent a LOT for Iraq. Are you biting their hands ?

 

False equivalence if I have ever seen it. Iraqis do not hate Iranians, Iraqis do not oppose Iranians, Iraqis are not in an alliance against Iranians. Palestinians are.

Saying that Iraq should have a normal relationship with Iran, not a puppet-master relationship, is not the same as Palestinians actually hating Iran lol.

5 hours ago, Flying_Eagle said:

First you opposed Palestinians for being anti-Shia and played the Shia card so that you may convince Shias that Iran should not support them, then when I asked you is not safeguarding of Holy Places our responsibilities ? then you switched about PLO and Hamas because Iran give them aid. I think you are anti-iranian brother to be very specific. You do not want that there be less enmity between Iran and Arabs, Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) offered his murderers for peace even after his sons, brothers and companions were killed. If Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) can offer peace to those then why not to Palestinians ? I believe that you are convinced that no any good is likely to come from Palestinians, which is not accurate belief because no any human can claim to know future. 

I oppose Iranian policies, I do not shy from that. They are wrong in my opinion, counter-productive, and do backfire.

No one is against safeguarding our Holy places, no one has said go sign a recognition pact with Israel. But let me tell you one thing: giving billions of dollars to Palestinian militants will not result in even liberating a metre of land in Palestine. This is a fact. They are useless.

Who is against peace with Palestinians? I am against wasting money and time with them. Instead of giving money to Palestinians that use it to chill in Qatari hotels, go spend money on your Shi'a brethren around the world. 

Not against peace with them, I'm against giving a sword to someone that hates you. 

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11 hours ago, Sumerian said:

go sign a recognition pact with Israel. But let me tell you one thing: giving billions of dollars to Palestinian militants will not result in even liberating a metre of land in Palestine. This is a fact. They are useless.

Who is against peace with Palestinians? I am against wasting money and time with them. Instead of giving money to Palestinians that use it to chill in Qatari hotels, go spend money on your Shi'a brethren around the world. 

Not against peace with them, I'm against giving a sword to someone that hates you. 

Aren't you supporting Israel by this?

:hahaha:

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12 hours ago, Sumerian said:

Who is against peace with Palestinians? I am against wasting money and time with them. Instead of giving money to Palestinians that use it to chill in Qatari hotels, go spend money on your Shi'a brethren around the world. 

Not against peace with them, I'm against giving a sword to someone that hates you. 

Salam many people in Iran after fall of Saddam (la) had same idea like as you about Iraqis too but by insisting of IRGC & Quds force & giving martyrs in this way they changed negative mindset of people about Iraqis , if we were following your mindset still now whole of Iraq & Syria were in hands of ISIS & we were fighting with it in borders or maybe inside Iran but I agree with you that palestinians are  lazy & don't help themselves like as Iraq & Syria because Iraq & Syria accepted more support of Shia Muslims & Iran more than Palestinians but Palestinians are more relying on pan Arabism & corrupted Sunni countries like as KSA than Iran  that are serving both Palestinians & Israel .

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6 minutes ago, Diaz said:

Lol, because oh you guys today I dreams about a Palestinian old man chocking me because I am Shia :grin:

:salam:

Brother @Sumerian had warned you !

12 hours ago, Sumerian said:

 

Not against peace with them, I'm against giving a sword to someone that hates you. 

You still seem confuses about why you are opposed to helping them. Is it because they hate us or because they are useless ?

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On 7/23/2019 at 12:15 PM, Propaganda_of_the_Deed said:

Saudi journalist accused of being a traitor for being part of a delegation of Arab journalists visiting Israel attacked by Palestinians at Al Aqsa.

Some hurled abuse, threw chairs and spat at him.

 

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Good!

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14 hours ago, Sumerian said:

False equivalence if I have ever seen it. Iraqis do not hate Iranians, Iraqis do not oppose Iranians, Iraqis are not in an alliance against Iranians. Palestinians are.

Saying that Iraq should have a normal relationship with Iran, not a puppet-master relationship, is not the same as Palestinians actually hating Iran lol.

I oppose Iranian policies, I do not shy from that. They are wrong in my opinion, counter-productive, and do backfire.

No one is against safeguarding our Holy places, no one has said go sign a recognition pact with Israel. But let me tell you one thing: giving billions of dollars to Palestinian militants will not result in even liberating a metre of land in Palestine. This is a fact. They are useless.

Who is against peace with Palestinians? I am against wasting money and time with them. Instead of giving money to Palestinians that use it to chill in Qatari hotels, go spend money on your Shi'a brethren around the world. 

Not against peace with them, I'm against giving a sword to someone that hates you. 

 

I thank God that the leaders of Iran does not think the way you do or see the world and their duties the same way you do.

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5 hours ago, Flying_Eagle said:

Aren't you supporting Israel by this?

:hahaha:

So if someone doesn't give money to Hamas, then he supports Israel? LOL great logic bruv. 

4 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam many people in Iran after fall of Saddam (la) had same idea like as you about Iraqis too but by insisting of IRGC & Quds force & giving martyrs in this way they changed negative mindset of people about Iraqis , if we were following your mindset still now whole of Iraq & Syria were in hands of ISIS & we were fighting with it in borders or maybe inside Iran but I agree with you that palestinians are  lazy & don't help themselves like as Iraq & Syria because Iraq & Syria accepted more support of Shia Muslims & Iran more than Palestinians but Palestinians are more relying on pan Arabism & corrupted Sunni countries like as KSA than Iran  that are serving both Palestinians & Israel .

Iraqis do not hate Iranians. Iraqis do not want bad relations with Iranians. Iraqis thank Iran for its support on the fight against Daesh. Just because I disagree with Iranian policy regarding having regional parties and militants working as agents of influence, doesn't mean I am against any co-operation. For example, in trade and fighting terror, of course Iran and Iraq should co-operate.

The problem with Palestinians is they - like all Sunni Arabs - hate Shi'a. You cannot deal with them like you deal with the Iraqis. And let's be honest, you and me both know Hamas cannot liberate even a singlr metre of their own land. The battle against ISIS was actually successful, while billions of dollars given to Palestinian militants has had no success and has proven to be worthless.

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4 hours ago, realizm said:

:salam:

Brother @Sumerian had warned you !

Well they can't choke us because they are weak, in the mean time they are choking themselves. 

4 hours ago, realizm said:

You still seem confuses about why you are opposed to helping them. Is it because they hate us or because they are useless ?

Both? lol

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