Marriage between muqallids of different maraja

[CityOfKnowledge]

Salaam

With respect to all the maraja, May God give them all long lives for the truth they share with us, I wanted to know what sorts of frictions of conflicts one can foresee between a marriage of two people who strongly follow Sayyid Sistani and Sayyid Khamanei, respectively. 

I wasn’t able to find the question elsewhere; if it exists, please do kindly share it with me.

I don’t suspect there be any major issues but I am just looking into the topic for personal reasons. I’m especially curious if it will make it difficult for children who come from that marriage if no agreement for the influences the child will be exposed to was made beforehand. 

[Guest Baghdad sans Mongols]

Seriously it had to come to this???

Even their wives are not bound to do their taqleed, and are free to choose their own marja’. 

 

[starlight]

5 minutes ago, Guest Baghdad sans Mongols said:

Seriously it had to come to this???

 

Thank you for saying this.

[Abu Nur]

4 hours ago, CityOfKnowledge said:

Salaam

With respect to all the maraja, May God give them all long lives for the truth they share with us, I wanted to know what sorts of frictions of conflicts one can foresee between a marriage of two people who strongly follow Sayyid Sistani and Sayyid Khamanei, respectively. 

I wasn’t able to find the question elsewhere; if it exists, please do kindly share it with me.

I don’t suspect there be any major issues but I am just looking into the topic for personal reasons. I’m especially curious if it will make it difficult for children who come from that marriage if no agreement for the influences the child will be exposed to was made beforehand. 

There is absolutely no problem and conflict at all.

[Propaganda_of_the_Deed]

4 hours ago, CityOfKnowledge said:

I wanted to know what sorts of frictions of conflicts one can foresee between a marriage of two people who strongly follow Sayyid Sistani and Sayyid Khamanei, respectively. 

 

Sistani - haram

Khamenai - permissable

[aaaz1618]

Sounds very much like caste mentality to me 

Everyone bleeds the same, don't they?

[habib e najjaar]

For the specific marja's you've mentioned, I don't think it would be a major issue. But even with a similar marja', a problematic person will always marja hop when it suits their convenience 

[CityOfKnowledge]

9 hours ago, Guest Baghdad sans Mongols said:

Seriously it had to come to this???

Even their wives are not bound to do their taqleed, and are free to choose their own marja’. 

 

Im sorry I don’t understand what you mean by this. Where have we come and whose wives? 

 

5 hours ago, aaaz1618 said:

Sounds very much like caste mentality to me 

Everyone bleeds the same, don't they?

Yes, 100% we come from the same source and return to it. thank you for sharing your thoughts. 

 

To all,

Never thought there would be any major issues. You all seem like you’ve experienced a lot on shiachat to have taken this question offensively. I’m sorry that you have experienced it.

Conflicts between marriages between people that come from different countries or cultures exists even if they follow the same marja. I’m sorry, although I do respect the kind answers received, I don’t quite buy that there will be no frictions. For example, if I asked what are the frictions between people who come from different countries. An answer would be: they would need to discuss where they would live if they wanted to live together. 

 

5 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

There is absolutely no problem and conflict at all.

 

5 hours ago, Propaganda_of_the_Deed said:

 

Sistani - haram

Khamenai - permissable

Mind you, I posted this is the family section not in jurisprudence. Im not asking about the permissibility of this marriage. I know the differences between the maraja. Thank you for your input, however. The meme is funny so also thank you for sharing. 

 

Edited June 17, 2019 by CityOfKnowledge

[CityOfKnowledge]

1 hour ago, habib e najjaar said:

For the specific marja's you've mentioned, I don't think it would be a major issue. But even with a similar marja', a problematic person will always marja hop when it suits their convenience 

Thank you for sharing. It does sound like it’s possible that rulings may be confused in this type of marriage especially when teaching children. Ie. Your child follows one marja and asks you a question about a ruling, but you confuse the two rulings. For example, how khums is paid. 

 

That would entail that the parents know the basic rulings of the marja the child does taqlid of.

 

 

thats a really good point so thank you for sharing.

Edited June 17, 2019 by CityOfKnowledge

[CityOfKnowledge]

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Maybe the brother wants the Eid to be celebrated together as a family.

Thank you for sharing. That is definitely something to discuss beforehand as it can cause a bit of friction. That’s a good point. 

[realizm]

5 hours ago, Propaganda_of_the_Deed said:

 

Sistani - haram

Khamenai - permissable

Brother 'ganda always up for some killa meme - you should have made a proper meme for this !

[Propaganda_of_the_Deed]

1 minute ago, realizm said:

Brother 'ganda always up for some killa meme - you should have made a proper meme for this !

I know I was being lazy to be honest and let you all and myself down. 

Apologies everyone. No excuses.

[Islandsandmirrors]

Ok OP, here’s something you should know: I’m married to a non-Shia (who may become Shia) and by your logic, everything will be oh so confusing for the children, but in actuality it’s not a problem at all. Religion and fiqh are something we typically don’t argue about. 

Just because something doesn’t sound good on paper, it doesn’t mean that it wouldn’t work. There’s something called mutual respect and understanding within a marriage. You’re not supposed to marry your clone. 

[CityOfKnowledge]

1 hour ago, Islandsandmirrors said:

Ok OP, here’s something you should know: I’m married to a non-Shia (who may become Shia) and by your logic, everything will be oh so confusing for the children, but in actuality it’s not a problem at all. Religion and fiqh are something we typically don’t argue about. 

Just because something doesn’t sound good on paper, it doesn’t mean that it wouldn’t work. There’s something called mutual respect and understanding within a marriage. You’re not supposed to marry your clone. 

Thank you for your post. I’m not sure what "logic" of mine you are speaking of. You can elaborate if you’d like. 

My question is not about major problems and issues because I don’t suspect that would happen. My question is asking about the frictions - points of conversation that would need to be addressed whether before marriage or in the moment. If I, a shi’a, marry a non-shi’a and want children I would want to discuss before the marriage areas where there may be friction ie. What madressah will we send them to, how will we teach them to pray, how do they pay their khums. 

I hope that clarifies my question. 

Edited June 19, 2019 by CityOfKnowledge

[The Green Knight]

I think its a wonderful idea that the two spouses follow different marja. Think of the ijtihad that will result from their possible debates and how the children will learn from it. Those children should then be sent to the schools in Qom and Najaf to become mujtahids.

[CityOfKnowledge]

4 minutes ago, Darth Vader said:

I think its a wonderful idea that the two spouses follow different marja. Think of the ijtihad that will result from their possible debates and how the children will learn from it. Those children should then be sent to the schools in Qom and Najaf to become mujtahids.

I think it’s a beautiful thing as well, on the condition that the conversations are done respectfully. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. 

[The Green Knight]

2 minutes ago, CityOfKnowledge said:

I think it’s a beautiful thing as well, on the condition that the conversations are done respectfully. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. 

If both are muqallids it means they bother enough with religion and also know they must be respectful to their spouse. You are welcome sir.