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How authentic is the the will of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)?

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2 minutes ago, Flying_Eagle said:

If you do not know then why believe in such lies ?

Have you done meaningful research to call it a lie?

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1 minute ago, Flying_Eagle said:

Do you think that those whom Allah (عزّ وجلّ) chooses, he would leave them like strangers in this world and will not help him with authority that are moral and physical. A Prophet never learns from any infallible person for if he learns than infallible becomes his master and has guided him and one whom infallible guides is lying upon Allah that Allah (عزّ وجلّ) choose for him a teacher which can make mistakes and therefore Allah (عزّ وجلّ) has did mistake as well. 

1. What makes you think that Ahmed al Hassan is a stranger in this world and he is not receiving an moral or physical help from Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)?

2. Who said that Ahmed al Hassan is learning from an infallible?

Brother where are you getting your claims from.

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Just now, aaljibar said:

1. What makes you think that Ahmed al Hassan is a stranger in this world and he is not receiving an moral or physical help from Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)?

2. Who said that Ahmed al Hassan is learning from an infallible?

Brother where are you getting your claims from.

brother from truthful sources

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10 minutes ago, Flying_Eagle said:

He is claiming to be his son right ? why don't do his DNA 

 

8 minutes ago, Flying_Eagle said:

Do you know what DNA Imam Mehdi (عليه السلام) had or how to figure out an Imam's DNA from a non-Imam Syed ?

 

7 minutes ago, Flying_Eagle said:

If you do not know then why believe in such lies ?

Let's say we got his DNA for you. How do we then know he's related to Imam al Mahdi ((عليه السلام))?

We have hadeeths that Imam Al Mahdi ((عليه السلام)) has children.

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4 minutes ago, aaljibar said:

Have you done meaningful research to call it a lie?

no need to research for a truth which u know, doubting your belief is weakness itself says Imam Ali (عليه السلام) 

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1 hour ago, aaljibar said:

Everything I claimed had a reference.

What about you about this claim?

I have references too ,he & Al-Baghdadi both were baathi spies inside Shia & Sunnis that joined to CIA after invading Iraq by United States that they joined to CIA that CIA & Mossad used them to astray Shias & Sunnis but Al-Hasan exposed by Shia scholars & reaserchers in field of Imam Mahdi (aj)

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Just now, Flying_Eagle said:

no need to research for a truth which u know, doubting your belief is weakness itself says Imam Ali (عليه السلام) 

So if an ISIS member doubts in his belief then he is experiencing weakness?

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Just now, Ashvazdanghe said:

I have references too ,he & Al-Baghdadi both were baathi spies inside Shia & Sunnis that joined to CIA after invading Iraq by United States that they joined to CIA that CIA & Mossad used them to astray Shias & Sunnis but Al-Hasan exposed by Shia scholars & reaserchers in field of Imam Mahdi (aj)

Bring forth the references for we are all students of truth and realities for the sake of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)

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Just now, aaljibar said:

 

 

Let's say we got his DNA for you. How do we then know he's related to Imam al Mahdi ((عليه السلام))?

We have hadeeths that Imam Al Mahdi ((عليه السلام)) has children.

How do you know ?

1. If this hadith is good chain of narrators ?

2. If one of all Sadiq chain of narrators got insane in his life where there is no control over thoughts and even one questions his beliefs

3. If one of the person who told the hadith is Sadiq heard from a person who became kaffir but the compiler did not know ?

There are plenty of hadith which speak that Imam Mehdi (عليه السلام) lives in island, desert, village and so on....some hadith say he is hidden, some say a village know him

Have to be cautious, this is not fantasy it is religion. 

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5 minutes ago, aaljibar said:

Let's say we got his DNA for you. How do we then know he's related to Imam al Mahdi ((عليه السلام))?

 

And according to Islamic Jurisprudence, the claimant has to supply the proof. Ask Ahmed al Hasan, how would he prove his DNA depicts he from the progeny of Imam al Mehdi (عليه السلام) ?

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40 minutes ago, Flying_Eagle said:

And according to Islamic Jurisprudence, the claimant has to supply the proof. Ask Ahmed al Hasan, how would he prove his DNA depicts he from the progeny of Imam al Mehdi (عليه السلام) ?

Why must he provide his DNA? Will Imam al Mahdi provide his DNA?. Imam al Sadiq ((عليه السلام)) says of recognising a person from Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) proof is that he must be mentioned in divine text, his divine knowledge and calling towards the supremacy of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)

As for Ahlul Bayt pbut Imam Al Saadiq (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) said: Do not follow a man at all until you see a man from the children of Hussain, with him is the Will of the Prophet of Allah, his banner and weapon Bihar Al Anwar.

Abi Yafoor asked Imam Al Ridha (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم): Is the weapon separated from knowledge? He(Imam) said: No. Kafi volume 1 page 238

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6 minutes ago, aaljibar said:

Why must he provide his DNA? Will Imam al Mahdi provide his DNA?. They say that the rules of recognising a person from Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) proof is that he must be mentioned in divine text, his knowledge and calling towards the supremacy of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)

hahaha, Allah (عزّ وجلّ) says in Qur'an, we send Prophets with authority......Authority is degree of Prophets and Imams that is they have blameless character like our Prophet was termed as Sadiq and Ameen but Ahmed al Hasan is not proved such among his people and also Prophets and Imams had knowledge which is mentioned in Qur'an that Allah (عزّ وجلّ) choose Hazrat Talut (عليه السلام) for his Knowledge, Which Maraja or scientist has Ahmed al Hasan defeated while our Prophets and Imams defeated many preachers, Alims and scientists.

if he want responsibility, he have to prove his credentials. 

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I mean no offense by this, but this reminds of that Russian cat named Vissario who says he is Isa (PB)

Description from Wikipedia,

"Vissarion claims to be a reincarnated Christ. He teaches reincarnation, vegetarianism, and apocalypse. On 18 August 1990, when he was 29, Vissarion claims that he had a revelation that he was the reincarnation of Christ. He first spoke publicly in Minusinsk on 18 August 1991. He founded the "Church of the Last Testament" (Церковь Последнего Завета Tserkov Poslednego Zaveta), also known as "Community of Unified Faith"."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vissarion?wprov=sfla1

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