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Yasir Qadhi compares Abu Talib (ra) with Iblis (A'udhu billahi mina shaytani rajim)

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36 minutes ago, Simon the Canaanite said:

Why would anyone even listen to this layman?

But he's not a layman though... he's a scholar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ammaar_Yasir_Qadhi#Islamic_University_of_Madinah

Anyway, this is the Sunni position on the matter (they think he died a kafir and is in hellfire). 
http://www.thesunniway.com/articles/item/246-was-Abu-talib-a-Muslim
https://islamqa.org/hanafi/daruliftaa-birmingham/87386

There is some ambiguity and disagreement among Sunnis though:

This position is not well known or popular among laymen though... just read the comments section where they call this a "Sufi belief".


Regardless, the Sunnis are wrong on this no doubt...
https://www.al-Islam.org/180-questions-about-Islam-vol-2-various-issues-makarim-shirazi/30-was-Abu-talib-Muslim
http://en.wikishia.net/view/Faith_of_Abu_Talib_(a)
https://themuslimvibe.com/faith-Islam/Abu-talib-the-uncle-of-Prophet-Muhammad

 

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1 hour ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

Why are you surprised? He is a Sunni, this is a mainstream Sunni belief. 

It is not really mainstream Sunni belief at the presentf .

Sunnis are divided on the subject, at least in India and Pakistan.

May be not in the Middle East but at least in the sub-continent, they are divided.

And this man actually actually mentions those Sunnis who believe that Abu Talib was a Muslim.

These include Sufis (who are mostly Sunnis) and Barelvis (another branch of Hanafi Sunnis in India and Pakistan). 

This man, Yasir Qadhi, himself is a Wahabi (Salafi).

His father migrated to the US from India in the sixties and I think he lives in Houston. 

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18 minutes ago, baqar said:

So what is he? 

Nevermind, this is misinformation... he still follows the way of the Salaf but he has left behind the label of 'Salafi':

 

I remember watching this video, which made me think he had left Salafi'ism:

 

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This guy is one of the most corrupt individuals around - he used to make public anti-Shi'a statements in the US - all kinds of nonsense (his old talks are still around the web). Dude then got challenged by real academics and scholars when he wanted to play in the big leagues at Yale - so he changed some of his positions because any half way academic scholar could point out that he had no standing. Then the FBI went after him because some of his students were involved in extremist activities - so he then allied himself with the FBI. More recently he has given talks in Pakistan sponsored by the English speaking "educated" wahabbi/salafi outfit called Live Deen - that has been focused on whabbifying the "educated" English speaking Pakistanis. 

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9 hours ago, AmirioTheMuzzy said:
:furious: :tongueangry:

:ranting:    

The hadith he quoted, itself proving him wrong. 

So Abu Talib (عليه السلام) was a kafir according to them and because of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) he will not be put into "darakil asfale min an-naar" (lowest part of the hell). 
Who are promised to be in darakil asfal? 

إِنَّ الْمُنَافِقِينَ فِي الدَّرْكِ الْأَسْفَلِ مِنَ النَّارِ وَلَنْ تَجِدَ لَهُمْ نَصِيرًا 
4:145

Oups!!!! Darakil Asfal is for "Munafiqeen". Was the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) unaware of that? Or Abu Talib (عليه السلام) was a munafiq? How can he be munafiq while according to them he never recited the kalima? While Qur'an witnesses that Munafiqeen are those who testify the oneness of God & Prophethood of Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)

إِذَا جَاءَكَ الْمُنَافِقُونَ قَالُوا نَشْهَدُ إِنَّكَ لَرَسُولُ اللَّهِ
63:1

So Mr.. Yasir Qadhi, please check the status of this hadith itself first. And let us know which "Nasibi" from the so called companions, has fabricated this hadith? 

Secondly, What was the religion of Abdul Muttalib (عليه السلام)? Was he an idol worshipper who used to worship idols of Quresh? Or was he on the religion of Ibrahim (عليه السلام)? Perhaps they don't even care what was discussed between Abraha and Abdul Muttalib (عليه السلام) and what happened after that was witnessed in Qur'an chapter Al-Fil 

أَلَمْ تَرَ كَيْفَ فَعَلَ رَبُّكَ بِأَصْحَابِ الْفِيلِ

 

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Sunnis &  Shi’ism :press TV interview Dr. Yasir Qadhi

In defense of Abu Taleb - Sayed Mahdi Modarresi

 

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1 hour ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Sunnis &  Shi’ism :press TV interview Dr..... Yasir Qadhi

Excellent interview with Br. Qadhi

I agree with almost everything he said.

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We have lots of Shia scholars, lectures, resources available online and offline. To listen to non-Shia ones (for knowledge/Aqeedah) is utter foolishness. 

This should be an eye-opener for those Shias who are fan of some Sunni scholars. 

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