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Aliya 16

Does your fast count if you do not pray?

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Bismehe Ta3ala 

Assalam Alikum 

Your fasting is without merit if salat is not in order.

Shahr Ramadan should be an opportunity to break the shackles of Shaitan and start anew.

Allah is Most Generous Most Merciful where he gave us two bonus sacred months of Rajab and Sha'ban to be ready and in full bloom once the month of Ramadhan arrives.  

Everyday in the month of Ramadhan, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) releases thousands of necks from the hellfire, we have numerous du32s, prayers, and types of dhikr we can incorporate in our daily schedule, but one just needs to act on it.  

If people just go into this month thinking it is just about restricting oneself from drinking and eating during a certain time, then you have the wrong idea of what Shahr Ramadhan is all about.

This takes more work on your end to learn, understand and inform yourself about this holy month.  

You need to remove the love of this dunya from your heart and establish a relationship with Rasoul Allah and his family.  

Start by talking to Allah that you want to change for the better and you wish to seek proximity to your Creator.  You need the intention to change, once your intention is in order, you follow with action.  Most importantly, stay away from haram and do your wajab and fundamentally that means salat is intact.

M3 Salamah, Fe Amin Allah 

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1 hour ago, AbdulKarim313_Austin/Nola said:

Alhamdulilah, 

That’s Incorrect. That’s exactly what’s being said by telling people their fast is validated with without prayer. Inshallah Tomorrow morning she will wake up and intentionally miss Fajr, Zuhr, Asr, Maghrib, and Isha prayer!!!  And she will be happy not to have to pray because fast is good enough! And she will tell her friends who might follow this advice then maybe they will not pray as well, And soon it can spread so now everyone is not praying at all. And everyone is going to feel ok by this because it’s not on the list of Sistani’s 9 things that invalidate fast. It was verified and ok’ed by you. You can explain to Allah. I love you brrother but I take no part in this.  I have done my part here. 

What would our Commander and chief of the believers Amir Al Mumineen (عليه السلام). think of this ruling. 

You seem to have missed the key point which is that missing your prayers is always a problem, regardless of whether you are fasting or not. 

Anyway, all I can say is as salaamu alaikum and allahu a'lam 

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3 minutes ago, Mahdavist said:

You seem to have missed the key point which is that missing your prayers is always a problem, regardless of whether you are fasting or not. 

Anyway, all I can say is as salaamu alaikum and allahu a'lam 

Alhamdulilah, 

May Allah Subhana wa ta’ala Bless you and your family, brother. Ramadhan Mubarak. 

May Allah have mercy on the believing men and believing women around the world 

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3 hours ago, AbdulKarim313_Austin/Nola said:

Alhamdulilah, 

May Allah Subhana wa ta’ala Bless you and your family, brother. Ramadhan Mubarak. 

May Allah have mercy on the believing men and believing women around the world 

Allah ibarak feekum. May He bless you and your family and all the believers.

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14 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

It seems that I did get the same conclusion by reading that work. Now I'm not 100% sure about the issue because I read from other source that it would be great sin but it will not void the fasting. But how can a great sin not void it?

Salam without praying Namaz , true Fasting will be only experiencing hunger & thirst that just benefits physically in this world but for acceptance of our Fasting & rest of our deeds at first our Namaz must be accepted first of all without accepting Namaz rest of our deeds like as fasting won't accept in judgment day & for acceptance of Namaz the Wilayah must be accepted first.

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6 hours ago, AbdulKarim313_Austin/Nola said:

What would our Commander and chief of the believers Amir Al Mumineen (عليه السلام). think of this ruling. 

In a Hadith, fasting has been classified into two groups by Imam Ali (AS): body fast and soul fast.

Body fast is in a lower place of fasting and it is limited to a specific time. Since everybody with a weak will is able to body fast, it is considered an easy fasting.

Not eating for some hours is easy for a religious person. She/he is able not to eat and drink even for some days and survive safe and sound.

What is important is soul fast which covers a wide range of activities, so it is a tough fasting. It is not possible for everyone, and every person cannot achieve it through physical fasting.

Body fasting could be a preparation to the higher level of soul fasting. Overcoming doubts, temptations and incentives is not achievable by just body and physical fasting.

Another point is that at the level of soul fasting, all of organs do fast. Ears, eyes, looks, tongues, minds and breaths do fast. These organs fast when person eats and sleeps. They fast not only among people but also in private.

Imam Ali (عليه السلام) states that soul fast is the avoidance of sins of five senses. So souls can be set aside from filth.

If man's soul fasts, five senses would be always vigilant. So the soul would not tend to do sins.

The Philosophy of Fasting

1- Strengthening faith and will

Imam Ali (عليه السلام) has said that "Certainly, the best things to be resorted to for God seekers are believing in God and his Prophet, Jihad in their way which makes Islam proud, being a theist that human being's nature demands, praying which is religion pillar and paying Zakat (that is the needy's rights in your properties and is obligatory in Islam) and Ramadan fasting which deters from torment".

Imam has also said that "It's upon you to fast in Ramadan that is like a shield preventing you from the Hell".

 

2- Self -building

http://old.ido.ir//en/en-a.aspx?a=1390061509

Imam Ali (a)

The prayer of a fasting person at the time of Iftar is never rejected

Imam Ali (a)

Whoever is prevented from food that he likes, because of his fast, Allah will feed him from the food of Heaven and from its drink.

https://www.al-Islam.org/understanding-month-glory-lessons-month-ramadhan/ahadith-fasting

Right n. 11: The Right of Fasting

حق الصوم

وَأَمَّا حَقُّ الصَّوْمِ فَأَنْ تَعْلَمَ أَنَّهُ حِجابٌ ضَرَبَهُ اللهُ عَلَى لِسَانِكَ وَسمْعِكَ وبَصَرِكَ وَفَرْجِكَ وبَطْنِكَ لِيَسْتر'َكَ بهِ مِن النَّارِ وَهَكَذَا جَاءَ فِي الْحَديثِ «الصَّوْمُ جُنَّةٌ مِنَ النّارِ» فإنْ سكَنَتْ أَطْرَافُكَ فِي حَجَبَتِهَا رَجَوْتَ أَنْ تَكُونَ مَحْجُوبًا. وَإنْ أَنْتَ تَرَكْتَهَا تَضْطَرِبُ فِي حِجَابهَا وتَرْفَعُ جَنَبَاتِ الْحِجَاب فَتُطّلِعُ إلَى مَا لَيْسَ لَهَا بالنَّظْرَةِ الدَّاعِيةِ لِلشَّهْوَةِ وَالقُوَّةِ الْخَارِجَةِ عَنْ حَدِّ التَّقِيَّةِ للهِ لَمْ تَأمَنْ أَنْ تَخرِقَ الْحِجَابَ وَتَخرُجَ مِنْهُ. وَلا قُوَّةَ إلا باللهِ.

And the right of fasting is that you should know it is a veil, which God has set up over your tongue, your hearing and your sight, your private parts and your stomach, to protect you from the Fire. This meaning is asserted in the tradition: “Fasting is a shield against the Fire.” Thus if your parts become tranquil within the veil of fasting, you have hopes of being protected.1 But if you leave them agitated behind the veil and let them lift the sides of the veil, so they look at things that are not lawful for them to look at that incite lust and powers that are beyond the limits of being God-fearing, you will not be safe from tearing through the veil and coming out of it. And there is no power but in God

https://www.al-Islam.org/divine-perspective-on-rights-a-commentary-of-Imam-sajjads-treatise-of-rights/right-n-11-right

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6 hours ago, AbdulKarim313_Austin/Nola said:

What would our Commander and chief of the believers Amir Al Mumineen (عليه السلام). think of this ruling. 

In a Hadith, fasting has been classified into two groups by Imam Ali (AS): body fast and soul fast.

Body fast is in a lower place of fasting and it is limited to a specific time. Since everybody with a weak will is able to body fast, it is considered an easy fasting.

Not eating for some hours is easy for a religious person. She/he is able not to eat and drink even for some days and survive safe and sound.

What is important is soul fast which covers a wide range of activities, so it is a tough fasting. It is not possible for everyone, and every person cannot achieve it through physical fasting.

Body fasting could be a preparation to the higher level of soul fasting. Overcoming doubts, temptations and incentives is not achievable by just body and physical fasting.

Another point is that at the level of soul fasting, all of organs do fast. Ears, eyes, looks, tongues, minds and breaths do fast. These organs fast when person eats and sleeps. They fast not only among people but also in private.

Imam Ali (عليه السلام) states that soul fast is the avoidance of sins of five senses. So souls can be set aside from filth.

If man's soul fasts, five senses would be always vigilant. So the soul would not tend to do sins.

The Philosophy of Fasting

1- Strengthening faith and will

Imam Ali (عليه السلام) has said that "Certainly, the best things to be resorted to for God seekers are believing in God and his Prophet, Jihad in their way which makes Islam proud, being a theist that human being's nature demands, praying which is religion pillar and paying Zakat (that is the needy's rights in your properties and is obligatory in Islam) and Ramadan fasting which deters from torment".

Imam has also said that "It's upon you to fast in Ramadan that is like a shield preventing you from the Hell".

 

2- Self -building

http://old.ido.ir//en/en-a.aspx?a=1390061509

Imam Ali (a)

The prayer of a fasting person at the time of Iftar is never rejected

Imam Ali (a)

Whoever is prevented from food that he likes, because of his fast, Allah will feed him from the food of Heaven and from its drink.

https://www.al-Islam.org/understanding-month-glory-lessons-month-ramadhan/ahadith-fasting


I advise you, and all my children, my relatives, and whosoever receives this message, to be conscious of Allah, to remove your differences, and to strengthen your ties. I heard your grandfather, peace be upon him, say: "Reconciliation of your differences is more worthy than all prayers and all fasting." 

http://www.dinpajoohan.com/article15784.html

Imam Ali (AS): “Fasting was enjoined so that the sincerity of the righteous may come to light.” 15

http://www.islamicwisdom.net/the-effects-of-fasting-in-Ramadan/

fasting-imam-ali-300x75.png

http://www.aimislam.com/spiritual-dimension-fasting-Sayyid-Muhammad-Rizvi/fasting-Imam-Ali/

Right n. 11: The Right of Fasting

حق الصوم

وَأَمَّا حَقُّ الصَّوْمِ فَأَنْ تَعْلَمَ أَنَّهُ حِجابٌ ضَرَبَهُ اللهُ عَلَى لِسَانِكَ وَسمْعِكَ وبَصَرِكَ وَفَرْجِكَ وبَطْنِكَ لِيَسْتر'َكَ بهِ مِن النَّارِ وَهَكَذَا جَاءَ فِي الْحَديثِ «الصَّوْمُ جُنَّةٌ مِنَ النّارِ» فإنْ سكَنَتْ أَطْرَافُكَ فِي حَجَبَتِهَا رَجَوْتَ أَنْ تَكُونَ مَحْجُوبًا. وَإنْ أَنْتَ تَرَكْتَهَا تَضْطَرِبُ فِي حِجَابهَا وتَرْفَعُ جَنَبَاتِ الْحِجَاب فَتُطّلِعُ إلَى مَا لَيْسَ لَهَا بالنَّظْرَةِ الدَّاعِيةِ لِلشَّهْوَةِ وَالقُوَّةِ الْخَارِجَةِ عَنْ حَدِّ التَّقِيَّةِ للهِ لَمْ تَأمَنْ أَنْ تَخرِقَ الْحِجَابَ وَتَخرُجَ مِنْهُ. وَلا قُوَّةَ إلا باللهِ.

And the right of fasting is that you should know it is a veil, which God has set up over your tongue, your hearing and your sight, your private parts and your stomach, to protect you from the Fire. This meaning is asserted in the tradition: “Fasting is a shield against the Fire.” Thus if your parts become tranquil within the veil of fasting, you have hopes of being protected.1 But if you leave them agitated behind the veil and let them lift the sides of the veil, so they look at things that are not lawful for them to look at that incite lust and powers that are beyond the limits of being God-fearing, you will not be safe from tearing through the veil and coming out of it. And there is no power but in God

https://www.al-Islam.org/divine-perspective-on-rights-a-commentary-of-Imam-sajjads-treatise-of-rights/right-n-11-right

http://hadith.net/en/post/59371/Imam-Sadiq-as-on-fasting/

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22 hours ago, Aliya 16 said:

Hi

I would like to know if your fast still counts if you do not do the daily prayer? If anyone has a Ayah in the Qur'an etc that makes the answer clear.

Thank you.

I don't understand why people keep asking this, not just on this site but even on other Islamic sites I've visited; why on Earth would somebody even want to do that?

If you can manage to not eat or drink anything for the whole day (around 18 hours in the United Kingdom) in the summer heat for 30 days consecutively , surely you can take 15-20 minutes each day to pray?

It would make more sense, from a purely easiness perspective, to do your prayers and not fast (not that I'm endorsing that either obviously), but I've never seen anyone asking about that. I just don't understand the logic here.

If iman was like a house, fasting without prayer would be like spending all day fitting perfectly insulated windows and then leaving the front door open. It's illogical.

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Thank you all for your responses. Alhamdulillah I'm fasting and performing my saalat daily. I asked as I know someone is doing this. They know they should be praying and are able to pray but have not prayed in so long and so got into a bad habit which they can't seem to break. But they choose to fast everyday.

Everything everyone has said makes perfect sense. I personally believe and feel that without prayer your fasting should not count. After all women cannot fast when their on their cycle. Why is this? Surely it's because you cannot pray if your unclean and if you cannot pray then you cannot fast. The two go hand in hand.

May Allah accept all your good deeds this month..

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