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Salam I see it  a possible thing but in Shia narrtions said that Iran will not invade by any foreigen force outside of it's border but Iran will suffer from disunity from within until time of reappearance of Imam Mahdi (aj)  only invasion that mentioned is from Turks (maybe Russians) in two occasion but it seems matches to two Russian invasion during Qajar dynasty era that one time their army comes to Qazwin & treatend Tehran to invasion & second time they attacked to Mashhad during WW I also during Pahlavi era in WWII their army in coalition with Britain & America take control of some parts of Tehran also in some narration said that Sofyani (la) will try to attack to Iran but in region of Istakhr between Shiraz & Ahwaz his army by Sayed Khorasani will destroy completely   inshaAllah 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istakhr

but there is narrations that is common between Shia & Sunni that says about great fire in east before Imam Mahdi (aj) reappearance  that I think it relates to burning oil fields in east of Hijaz that KSA is always accusing Shias in there that they want to explode oil fields in favor of Iran & is trying to move all Shias from that area by brute force 

and it's another famous common narration that says a group of people from east will demand their right three time that in first two time it will be not answered that I think it can be 598 peace treaty between Iraq & Iran and JCPOA in recent years that before signing 598 peace treaty Iran has intention of overthrowing Saddam (la) and releasing Palestine from Israel that even a small group of Iranian army & commanders went near to Palestine from Syria during war but after killing commanders & signing peace deal they returned to Iran and JCPOA is now is in it's last days but it said in third time they are trying to make a peace deal with Iran but this time nobody will accept it & Khorasani Army will attack to Israel for last time that I hope it happens in our life time inshAllah.

 

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Wallahu 'aalim. I feel its only another scare tactic in response to Iran's considering blocking the Hormuz strait. As for war, two things. US only bombs and uses mercenaries like ISIS or Qaeda or Blackwater on the ground. Secondly, how are they going to invade Iran when Iran now extends from Lebanon to Syria to Iraq?

In case of conflict in the strait of Hormuz Iran has an obvious and big advantage there in its tight confines and adjacency to land. They know it, and it is why I think they are strutting and waving their swords.

Regarding Imam, he can appear any time and is not restricted by signs rather signs await the order. To wait is to be ready always.

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On 5/13/2019 at 7:59 PM, Lion of Shia said:

Is This a sign of Imam Mahdi? If the US and Iran do go to war or have a conflict, will it Mean the rise of the Imam(عليه السلام) If our time?

or the sufany rises?

Mr.. Lion, they were saying when Saudi King Abdullah dies Imam (عليه السلام) will rise within days.  Turns out that tradition was fake.  Bottom line: no one can say for sure which era will see the reappearance of our Imam (عليه السلام).  The only sure shot signs are 5 or 6 in number.  If you see those signs then know for sure that zuhoor is imminent.

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10 minutes ago, SyedOfBarha said:

Turns out that tradition was fake.

You shouldn't say this. We don't know which king the tradition was talking about.There could be another with the same name.

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1 hour ago, SyedOfBarha said:

Mr.... Lion, they were saying when Saudi King Abdullah dies Imam (عليه السلام) will rise within days.  Turns out that tradition was fake.  Bottom line: no one can say for sure which era will see the reappearance of our Imam (عليه السلام).  The only sure shot signs are 5 or 6 in number.  If you see those signs then know for sure that zuhoor is imminent.

Salam nobody in hadith claimed that it was Saudi King but attributes in hadith is matching with them but it can be about another ruling family  anyway I agree with rest of your word but it's a feeling between us that is near inshaAllah.

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On 5/14/2019 at 11:04 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

and it's another famous common narration that says a group of people from east will demand their right three time that in first two time it will be not answered that I think it can be 598 peace treaty between Iraq & Iran and JCPOA in recent years that before signing 598 peace treaty Iran has intention of overthrowing Saddam (la) and releasing Palestine from Israel that even a small group of Iranian army & commanders went near to Palestine from Syria during war but after killing commanders & signing peace deal they returned to Iran and JCPOA is now is in it's last days but it said in third time they are trying to make a peace deal with Iran but this time nobody will accept it & Khorasani Army will attack to Israel for last time that I hope it happens in our life time inshAllah.

Brother Correct me if I am wrong!!!!
 

That narration doesn't mention as per my little knowledge that Khorasani army will attack Israhell instead it says that people of East will ask for their rights, two times they will be silenced and third times they will not accept anything except they will go on to taste victory against Oppressors..

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8 hours ago, SyedOfBarha said:

they were saying when Saudi King Abdullah dies Imam (عليه السلام) will rise within days.  Turns out that tradition was fake.

Nowhere any knowledgeable person said that Imam (عليه السلام) will rise within days.. instead narration says regime of years will become of months and then days followed by rise of Qaem (عليه السلام).

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12 hours ago, starlight said:

You shouldn't say this. We don't know which king the tradition was talking about.There could be another with the same name.

Exactly my point... we shouldn't say: this or that sign applies to our times.  This is what was done with the "Abdullah" narration.  Several Shia scholars were claiming it was in regard to Saudi King Abdullah.  Wasn't that a big mistake?  The original poster be warned.

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