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10 minutes ago, ali_fatheroforphans said:

^ All the dog lovers, now talk!

Still a beautiful creation of the Almighty :itsok:

Plus creatures do tasbih of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), which is a lot more than us humans who are forgetful in their rememberance.

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41 minutes ago, ali_fatheroforphans said:

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Very old dog visible from the teeth, and looks blind. This breed was bred the wrong way which gives it problems breathing and moving, but there are still people who love Bulldogs, and they do have a certain kind of charm. This picture is like showing a 98 year old human, with all kinds of genetic defects

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Dogs are good for 

Scaring your neighbors pets 

Running with them / keep you active as they need walks frequently 

Keeping pesky kids teenagers off your property 

Keep them outside your living quarters,  their saliva and hair are najis 

I would not keep a dog if I live in the city only if it's a far suburb or rural country 

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3 minutes ago, Panzerwaffe said:

Keep them outside your living quarters,  their saliva and hair are najis

Depends which breed, and also depends how the dog us kept. Most people are najis too apparently because it seems according to Qur'an that most people are bad. I think people are on average filthier than any dog. And most of the time the filthiness of a dog can be directly traced back to human activity. When left alone, nature is very clean. 

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8 minutes ago, 313 Seeker said:

Depends which breed, and also depends how the dog us kept. Most people are najis too apparently because it seems according to Qur'an that most people are bad. I think people are on average filthier than any dog. And most of the time the filthiness of a dog can be directly traced back to human activity. When left alone, nature is very clean. 

That's your opinion

But that of vast majority of scholars say they are najis 

I agree most people are filthy too but thsts a different issue 

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44 minutes ago, Panzerwaffe said:

That's your opinion

But that of vast majority of scholars say they are najis 

I agree most people are filthy too but thsts a different issue 

Majority of scholars are wrong if they don’t respect as7ab el kahf. It's ok to wrong as long as its forgiven. Let us stay in line with Qur'an and common sense, while giving space to dog lovers to Express more positive things. It's a big interesting field. If dogs are groomed correctly they wont be najis. Here is a chance to discuss proper grooming. 

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14 minutes ago, 313 Seeker said:

Majority of scholars are wrong if they don’t respect as7ab el kahf. It's ok to wrong as long as its forgiven. Let us stay in line with Qur'an and common sense, while giving space to dog lovers to Express more positive things. It's a big interesting field. If dogs are groomed correctly they wont be najis. Here is a chance to discuss proper grooming. 

I understand your stance, but even their saliva is najis and that is less easy to rectify than grooming them. 

Nothing wrong in owning them, just not indoors.

The role of dogs in families in the West has evolved over recent generations. In say, the 60s and 70s it was less common to have dogs sleeping on owners beds or having bedding in the family home. Traditionally they lived in the garden in a dog house.

Even Spike in old school Tom and Jerry lived outdoors.

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3 minutes ago, Propaganda_of_the_Deed said:

I understand your stance, but even their saliva is najis and that is less easy to rectify than grooming them. 

Nothing wrong in owning them, just not indoors.

The role of dogs in families in the West has evolved over recent generations. In say, the 60s and 70s it was less common to have dogs sleeping on owners beds or having bedding in the family home. Traditionally they lived in the garden in a dog house.

Even Spike in old school Tom and Jerry lived outdoors.

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Any healthily bred dog does not drool, and can be taught easily not to lick you. So drool isn't an issue I believe. Grooming is to avoid hair especially when change of season. Many scholars say that the hair is only an issue when wet as well.

It can be argued that the dog of ashab el kahf is inside the cave by the entrance. I think the way westerners treat animals is more Islamic than Muslims do. 

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8 minutes ago, 313 Seeker said:

I think the way westerners treat animals is more Islamic than Muslims do. 

I agree with this.

It is unfortunate how cruel Muslims can be to animals, usually out of ignorance and also as they do not prioritise animal rights as in the West, partly due to more existential issues and poverty.

But there is hope, with social media we are seeing more committed individuals and organisations in Muslim countries.

Like this young woman in Baghdad who looks after stray dogs.

 

Edited by Propaganda_of_the_Deed

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As someone who has spent time with an elderly lady and her poodle (a miniature one), they are remarkably intelligent creatures with an incredible depth of emotion. They cry, feel sad, feel scared, feel loved, and can even enjoy embracing and sleeping on top of their owner. 

I am sometimes startled with how human-like they can be. On certain Psychiatric wards, they are even used as therapy. 

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Why is there a fan club for dogs?

Read these hadiths:

إِنَّ جَبْرَئِيلَ ع أَتَانِي فَقَالَ إِنَّا مَعَاشِرَ الْمَلَائِكَةِ لَا نَدْخُلُ بَيْتاً فِيهِ كَلْبٌ‏ وَ لَا تِمْثَالُ جَسَدٍ وَ لَا إِنَاءٌ يُبَالُ فِيهِ.

The Gabriel came to the Prophet and said: We angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog.

يُكْرَهُ أَنْ يَكُونَ فِي دَارِ الرَّجُلِ الْمُسْلِمِ الْكَلْبُ.

It is discouraged for a Muslim man to have dog in his house.

لَا خَيْرَ فِي الْكِلَابِ إِلَّا كَلْبَ‏ صَيْدٍ أَوْ كَلْبَ‏ مَاشِيَةٍ.

There is no benefit in dogs, except in hunting and as shepherds

مَا مِنْ أَحَدٍ يَتَّخِذُ كَلْباً إِلَّا نَقَصَ فِي كُلِّ يَوْمٍ مِنْ عَمَلِ صَاحِبِهِ قِيرَاطٌ.

Whoever keeps a dog loses a little portion of his good deeds everyday

لَا تُمْسِكْ كَلْبَ‏ الصَّيْدِ فِي الدَّارِ إِلَّا أَنْ يَكُونَ بَيْنَكَ وَ بَيْنَهُ بَابٌ.

Do not keep your hunting dog in your house except there is a door between you and him.

The fatwa of Ayatollah Seestani (rahimahullah):

Question: Is it permissible to keep a dog as a pet in my house?

Answer: It is better not to, and its preferable to choose another animal as a pet, as a dog is ritually impure (Najis) according to Islamic law, and thus it would cause one to live with considerable difficulty. It's also been mentioned that prayers in a place with a dog around is abominable (Makrooh).

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