Bashar al Assad

[Zain el-Abidine]

3 hours ago, Simon the Canaanite said:

Who said I wasn’t rich? Your friend is rich by money, and I’m rich by faith & belief!

(9:34)

“O' you who have faith! Indeed, many of the scribes and monks wrongfully eat up the people’s wealth, and bar [them] from the way of God. Those who treasure up gold and silver, and do not spend it in the way of God, inform them of a painful punishment.”

 

So you don’t like him because he has money...

[Simon the Canaanite]

14 hours ago, Zain el-Abidine said:

So you don’t like him because he has money...

It’s not like that. If he had spent it to help Iraq, I would’ve respected him, but he’s spending it on himself, and at the same time pretending to be ascetic!

If he spent it on himself, without talking, I would’ve let it pass, but he’s being a hypocrite.

Also, you didn’t tell me. Are you from Iraq?

Edited April 21, 2019 by Simon the Canaanite

[realizm]

On 4/20/2019 at 7:52 PM, Panzerwaffe said:

He just has a bad rep problem 

Could be a great ally of US but unfortunately he is demonized by both major parties 

Like good reputation should be setup on appreciation by the US.

[Simon the Canaanite]

21 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

As on my experience from last month travel to Holy cities of Iraq  ,he has few fans but majority are neutral about him but propaganda of Shirazis is very strong specially in Karbala ,I only prayed with some of his fans in Kazemein  & it was only holy city that not polluted so much with Shirazis propaganda and banners & majority of them were neutral about Iran but we can find hot fuss people in social media that are calling themselves as his fans but in reality they are influenced by Shirazis propaganda against Iran but older sadists are neutral about Iran 

You should be the first one to despise him, and his followers, because of this.

[Zain el-Abidine]

5 hours ago, Simon the Canaanite said:

It’s not like that. If he had spent it to help Iraq, I would’ve respected him, but he’s spending it on himself, and at the same time pretending to be ascetic!

If he spent it on himself, without talking, I would’ve let it pass, but he’s being a hypocrite.

Also, you didn’t tell me. Are you from Iraq?

So spending his money to build an army to defend the Iraqi people from foreign occupation is on himself? Sending aid to Fallujah while America and Iraq's "government" were besieging thousands of people is on himself, and standing up for Iraq whilst its neighbors Turkey and Iran are draining its water, using its resources and sending its young people to die for the tyrant Bashar is on himself?

 

I don't need to be Iraqi brother to be logical and understand basic things, Iran is clearly taking advantage of Iraq and the Arab world, they want to dominate the Arab states, Hezbillah's founder even acknowledged this when they were fighting Israel back in the 80s how Iran began to infiltrate their movement from being the Islamic Resistance to being Iran's mercenaries. Iraq is no different today, Iran's people were the same ones who administrated Abu Ghraib with the CIA they are dividing Iraqis and Arabs.

[Simon the Canaanite]

50 minutes ago, Zain el-Abidine said:

So spending his money to build an army to defend the Iraqi people from foreign occupation is on himself? Sending aid to Fallujah while America and Iraq's "government" were besieging thousands of people is on himself, and standing up for Iraq whilst its neighbors Turkey and Iran are draining its water, using its resources and sending its young people to die for the tyrant Bashar is on himself?

 

I don't need to be Iraqi brother to be logical and understand basic things, Iran is clearly taking advantage of Iraq and the Arab world, they want to dominate the Arab states, Hezbillah's founder even acknowledged this when they were fighting Israel back in the 80s how Iran began to infiltrate their movement from being the Islamic Resistance to being Iran's mercenaries. Iraq is no different today, Iran's people were the same ones who administrated Abu Ghraib with the CIA they are dividing Iraqis and Arabs.

I definitely agree with you, that the aforesaid country and it’s 'sprigs' and propagandists are taking advantage of my country and the Middle East. And that evinces that I’m not in a personal 'war' with you, neither am I jealous of whom you follow. At the end, we’re followers of the holy family. And we won’t be asked about this or that. What’s important is to love him, and him alone.

However, I’d beg to differ & ‘difference in opinion, doesn’t deprave of friendliness,’ as they say. Politics is structured on interests; that’s why you’d see the aforementioned country and it’s branches, wishing to have a friendly alliance with Turkey or the 'Muslim Brotherhood,' because they’ve got the same colonial, exponential and conquering mindset. Turkey wishes to bring back their Ottoman Empire, and the 'Muslim Brotherhood' dreams of a caliphate.

The aforementioned country also wishes to expand the operation, and rule more countries from afar, by the remote-control - of fear from foreign powers, obviously.

 

Your friend, also has the same political sly and guileful mindset. He tried fighting the invasion (and failed at the end...) - and got his funding from Iran. After failing in doing so, he went to Saudi Arabia and made an alliance with them.

Such people, are called in Arabic:

Quote

خَبٌّ ضَبٌّ

Meaning, sly/cunning spiny-tailed lizard. They’ll try to deceive and trick for their interests, even if that meant going to the eternal hellfire.

 

As for pushing off terrorism: that, I’ll give for the soldiers that gave their lives. He wasn’t on the front. All militia 'leaders' in Iraq live in their palaces, and only come out when a province is liberated, to go take selfies and pose with dead fighters - they go in military uniform, that has clay and soil on it, to make it seem as if they did anything.

Also, his so called, 'Peace Companies' participated in Syria. And he met the Syrian president many times. Not once, not twice... but thrice!

 

The best I see, is to leave them all alone & follow the Holy Family of our Prophet.

Edited April 21, 2019 by Simon the Canaanite

[Zain el-Abidine]

5 minutes ago, Simon the Canaanite said:

I definitely agree with you, that the aforesaid country and it’s 'sprigs' and propagandists are taking advantage of my country and the Middle East. And that evinces that I’m not in a personal 'war' with you, neither am I jealous of whom you follow. At the end, we’re followers of the holy family. And we won’t be asked about this or that. What’s important is to love him, and him alone.

However, I’d beg to differ & ‘difference in opinion, doesn’t deprave of friendliness,’ as they say. Politics is structured on interests; that’s why you’d see the aforementioned country and it’s branches, wishing to have a friendly alliance with Turkey or the 'Muslim Brotherhood,' because they’ve got the same colonial, exponential and conquering mindset. Turkey wishes to bring back their Ottoman Empire, and the 'Muslim Brotherhood' dreams of a caliphate.

The aforementioned country also wishes to expand the operation, and rule more countries from afar, by the remote-control - of fear from foreign powers, obviously.

 

Your friend, also has the same political sly and guileful mindset. He tried fighting the invasion (and failed at the end...) - and got his funding from Iran. After failing in doing so, he went to Saudi Arabia and made an alliance with them.

Such people, are called in Arabic:

Meaning, sly/cunning spiny-tailed lizard. They’ll try to deceive and trick for their interests, even if that meant going to the eternal hellfire.

The best I see, is to leave them all alone & follow the Holy Family of our Prophet.

Undoubtedly Turkey is the Sunni equivalent of Iran with their Neo-Ottomanism which should also be rejected and is no surprise the two are beginning to become closer and closer?

[Guest ASunniGuy]

How does unity with Sunnis work when you support Assad?

How would you justify 10,000s of Sunni women who have been raped in his dungeons to a Sunni? Is that really a lesser evil? Many of you liking pro-Assad or atleast sympathetic-to-Assad posts on here are women ( judging from your usernames) and all of you who liked them are people who have mothers. Would you as a female like to be in an assadist prison or would you like your mothers to be there?

Statistically speaking, in regards to murder and rape, Assad is head and shoulders above the rest in sheer number. You may think no no that's not true but that is what the majority of people believe. So how would you persuade us for unity? Saying we are dumb or have fallen for propaganda won't do the trick. 

Would Imam Hussain (رضي الله عنه) call Assad the lesser evil and give him hugs (as little old precious Khamenei does)?

[Ar.alhindi]

On 4/20/2019 at 4:48 PM, Guest Itsme said:

Sayed Sistani isn't going around telling people to do it privately, because a scholar of his sheer intellect recognises just how counterproductive that would be. He flat out wants people to do their own research, know our position and not get involved after that in discussions to do with this in the way I have detailed. 

Is this not the very reason why Sunnis struggle to trust Twelver Shia with intellectual discussions? It is like a massive elephant in the room which is also stuck between a rock and a hard place.

1. If it is publically conceded that the official Twelver position is that various Sahabah died upon Kufr, Nifaq, Nasb, or otherwise Dhulm, then Sunnis would increasingly feel justified in their opposition to Twelvers.

Or

2. Twelvers continue to stay silent on the topic and just encourage research to know what the position and belief is regarding various Sahabah, but this implies very strongly you guys are trying to hide Twelver beliefs so lay Sunnis do not feel averse to them ('reconciliatory Taqiyyah'?).

I guess you guys just see more harm in 1 because then all Sunnis would hate Twelvers whereas 2 is a way of using ambiguity to slide under the radar and still reach the lay people. But rather than showing the academic integrity and strength of Twelver beliefs though, this just implies that the only way to call people to Tashayyu is through deceipt.

I know that in a general manner all Muslims do this to some degree when talking non-Muslims e.g. about the Hudood, because they need to unpackage their questions and get to the crux of problem with their understanding (which is the fact they don't believe in La Illaha IlAllah), but at the end of the day, a Sunni would not ouright deny the existence of the Hudood or hide it - they would mention it and justify it and agree to disagree if they have to, even if the Kafir he is talking to hates Muslims because of the reality of Hudood. On the other hand, many Twelvers will use all the linguistic ambiguity at his desposal to deny the reality of La'nah upon the Dushman of the Ahlul Bait and those who make up that group. 

[Abu Nur]

1 hour ago, Ar.alhindi said:

Is this not the very reason why Sunnis struggle to trust Twelver Shia with intellectual discussions? It is like a massive elephant in the room which is also stuck between a rock and a hard place.

1. If it is publically conceded that the official Twelver position is that various Sahabah died upon Kufr, Nifaq, Nasb, or otherwise Dhulm, then Sunnis would increasingly feel justified in their opposition to Twelvers.

Or

2. Twelvers continue to stay silent on the topic and just encourage research to know what the position and belief is regarding various Sahabah, but this implies very strongly you guys are trying to hide Twelver beliefs so lay Sunnis do not feel averse to them ('reconciliatory Taqiyyah'?).

I guess you guys just see more harm in 1 because then all Sunnis would hate Twelvers whereas 2 is a way of using ambiguity to slide under the radar and still reach the lay people. But rather than showing the academic integrity and strength of Twelver beliefs though, this just implies that the only way to call people to Tashayyu is through deceipt.

I know that in a general manner all Muslims do this to some degree when talking non-Muslims e.g. about the Hudood, because they need to unpackage their questions and get to the crux of problem with their understanding (which is the fact they don't believe in La Illaha IlAllah), but at the end of the day, a Sunni would not ouright deny the existence of the Hudood or hide it - they would mention it and justify it and agree to disagree if they have to, even if the Kafir he is talking to hates Muslims because of the reality of Hudood. On the other hand, many Twelvers will use all the linguistic ambiguity at his desposal to deny the reality of La'nah upon the Dushman of the Ahlul Bait and those who make up that group. 

Brother chill out. 

[Ar.alhindi]

1 hour ago, Abu Nur said:

Brother chill out. 

It is something that I have been wanting to speak out about for a long time - I come across far too many people saying "we don't curse", which is far from the reality of the Twelvers. As a seeker of truth (may Allah keep me sincere), I just want the cold hard truth (and so do others), but it is hard to get that if people are being disingenuous or otherwise hiding their beliefs and trying to present a sanitised PR version of Twelverism. 

[Ashvazdanghe]

8 hours ago, Zain el-Abidine said:

So spending his money to build an army to defend the Iraqi people from foreign occupation is on himself? Sending aid to Fallujah while America and Iraq's "government" were besieging thousands of people is on himself, and standing up for Iraq whilst its neighbors Turkey and Iran are draining its water, using its resources and sending its young people to die for the tyrant Bashar is on himself?

 

I don't need to be Iraqi brother to be logical and understand basic things, Iran is clearly taking advantage of Iraq and the Arab world, they want to dominate the Arab states, Hezbillah's founder even acknowledged this when they were fighting Israel back in the 80s how Iran began to infiltrate their movement from being the Islamic Resistance to being Iran's mercenaries. Iraq is no different today, Iran's people were the same ones who administrated Abu Ghraib with the CIA they are dividing Iraqis and Arabs.

Salam whole of your words are same as anti Iranian regime groups that receive their agenda & Support from Israel & America & like parrot are reapeating accusations of Zionists 

Iran like as Iraq suffers from draining water by Turkey dams & all people that go to Syria from Iran were volunteers to defend shrines that also protected Bashar as ally of all Shias in region

Hasan NasruAllah clearly said that they are independant from Iran but they will support Iran to last breath , Abu Ghuraib was totaly under administration of CIA & former Baathis & Iran didn't no rule in it but you just repaeat Zionists accusations against Iran 

 

[Zain el-Abidine]

12 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam whole of your words are same as anti Iranian regime groups that receive their agenda & Support from Israel & America & like parrot are reapeating accusations of Zionists 

Iran like as Iraq suffers from draining water by Turkey dams & all people that go to Syria from Iran were volunteers to defend shrines that also protected Bashar as ally of all Shias in region

Hasan NasruAllah clearly said that they are independant from Iran but they will support Iran to last breath , Abu Ghuraib was totaly under administration of CIA & former Baathis & Iran didn't no rule in it but you just repaeat Zionists accusations against Iran 

 

Are you familiar with Solagh who over saw operations in Abu Ghraib? Iraq's take over was a coordinated effort.

[Hassan-]

19 hours ago, Guest ASunniGuy said:

How would you justify 10,000s of Sunni women who have been raped in his dungeons to a Sunni?

Proof?

[Ashvazdanghe]

5 minutes ago, Zain el-Abidine said:

Are you familiar with Solagh who over saw operations in Abu Ghraib? Iraq's take over was a coordinated effort.

I don’t have no word who insults to Shia martyrs & repeats Zionists propaganda 

[Zain el-Abidine]

7 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

I don’t have no word who insults to Shia martyrs & repeats Zionists propaganda 

Badr organization assistated the invaders Mehdi Army fought the invaders but all you can say is Zionist to wipe away the truth.

[Ashvazdanghe]

5 minutes ago, Zain el-Abidine said:

Badr organization assistated the invaders Mehdi Army fought the invaders but all you can say is Zionist to wipe away the truth.

You just uses Sadr picture as your profile picture it doesn’t prove your connection to Sadrist or Imam Mahdi Army also I never talked about it but your enmity toward Iran completely match with Wahhabists & Zionists 

[Zain el-Abidine]

22 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

You just uses Sadr picture as your profile picture it doesn’t prove your connection to Sadrist or Imam Mahdi Army also I never talked about it but your enmity toward Iran completely match with Wahhabists & Zionists  

I have no affiliation with the Mehdi Army or Sayyid Sadr but I do admire him, and agree with him, and you act more like a nationalist than someone actually concerned with the teachings of this religion and the justice we as the Shia of Ali must uphold

[Laayla]

Bismehe Ta3ala 

Assalam Alikum 

If the Shias themselves can't come to a common understanding of truth vs falsehood, then do not be surprised of the rest of the world not knowing Islam, Rasoul Allah and Ahulbayt.

The common Shia knows only about Amir al mo2mneen and Imam Hussain.  Little do they know about the 10 other Imams.

There is so much work that needs to be done.  God help us.

M3 Salamah, Fe Amin Allah 

[Guest Asunniguy]

5 hours ago, Hassan- said:

Proof?

Countless witnesses, victim testimonies, videos taken by assadist scum of the rapes themselves. 

Do you ask for proof when you talk about Shias getting killed in nigeria too or do you instantly believe that?

[BowTie]

Three words: temporary necessary evil 

[Guest SunniGuy]

On 4/25/2019 at 8:20 PM, BowTie said:

Three words: temporary necessary evil 

Why is he a necessary evil? What special quality does he have which makes him the necessary evil and not any other group in Syria?

How do you know he is a temporary (other than him being mortal)? His family could end up ruling for a 100 years or more. 

 

[BowTie]

14 hours ago, Guest SunniGuy said:

Why is he a necessary evil? What special quality does he have which makes him the necessary evil and not any other group in Syria?

How do you know he is a temporary (other than him being mortal)? His family could end up ruling for a 100 years or more. 

A special quality he has is that he is simply against the Zionist state of Israel, which is a quality that many Arab and Muslim leaders now days lack to have.

Is he a dictator? He definitely is. But so is all the Arab and Muslim kings and presidents. They're not better, but they're conspiring against him.

End of discussion mate.

[Hassan-]

On 4/22/2019 at 7:34 PM, Guest Asunniguy said:

Countless witnesses, victim testimonies, videos taken by assadist scum of the rapes themselves. 

Do you ask for proof when you talk about Shias getting killed in nigeria too or do you instantly believe that?

Witnesses and testimonies by Nusra sympathizers and anti-assadists? That’s not proof, I can go on tv and say whatever I want does that make it true? The media spends 10s of millions of dollars to portray Assad as evil, and many people fall victim to there propaganda. If you see one or two videos of a soldier raping, you automatically conclude the whole army does it and Assad approves of it? There are bad people everywhere, look at the anti-assadists for example, not only do they rape but they behead and torture there victims by the thousands, so maybe you should address these crimes first.

Edited April 27, 2019 by Hassan-

[Guest ASunniGuy]

On 4/27/2019 at 10:26 AM, Hassan- said:

Witnesses and testimonies by Nusra sympathizers and anti-assadists? That’s not proof, I can go on tv and say whatever I want does that make it true? The media spends 10s of millions of dollars to portray Assad as evil, and many people fall victim to there propaganda. If you see one or two videos of a soldier raping, you automatically conclude the whole army does it and Assad approves of it? There are bad people everywhere, look at the anti-assadists for example, not only do they rape but they behead and torture there victims by the thousands, so maybe you should address these crimes first.

You're trying to deliberately slander people in order to put their testimony under the rug.Yes anytime there is anything bad about Assad its just propaganda and anyone who says anything bad is a paid actor. Or maybe it's a zionist conspiracy? That's also a popular excuse used by assad supporters.

Noone really rapes on the scale as the syrian regime. So that's not comparable. Even ISIS with all their crimes across Syria and Iraq, don't come close in the sheer amount of rape that's done by the assad regime. 

Again, noone tortures or murders people on the scale the syrian regime does. The regime is head and shoulders above the rest. The stats seem to have the assad regime as the number 1 criminals leading the way, ISIS normally at number 2 and then everyone else afterwards. Some 60000+ alone have been tortured to death in regime dungeons. 

This is a big problem I have with Shia. You people never stand up for justice. You stand up only for your own interests. You'll spend the whole year crying about Karbala but ignore the tyrant that sits in Damascus in the present day. Actually ignoring is the wrong word, you people go out of your way to support him or make excuses for him. If your mothers and daughters and sisters were mass raped, you guys wouldn't be here crying propaganda against their testimonies or supporting the rapist and calling him the lesser evil or a necessary evil.

Someday your people's actions and lack of empathy may come back to haunt all of you. 

[Guest ASunniGuy]

On 4/27/2019 at 7:26 AM, BowTie said:

A special quality he has is that he is simply against the Zionist state of Israel, which is a quality that many Arab and Muslim leaders now days lack to have.

Is he a dictator? He definitely is. But so is all the Arab and Muslim kings and presidents. They're not better, but they're conspiring against him.

End of discussion mate.

How many zionists has Assad killed? Next to none or very low insignificant numbers.

How many Sunni Muslims has Assad massacred? 100,000+ easily. 

Muslims are against Israel because Israel oppresses Muslims. The syrians Assad massacres are Muslims too. Palestinian blood isn't more valuable than syrian blood.

Israel is probably jealous of Assad's support here, they kill one palestinian rock thrower and the Shias on this forum raise their virtual fists, Assad kills 100,000+ innocent Muslims and the Shias here call him the necessary evil or make excuses for him and say it's propaganda. 

[Ashvazdanghe]

Exclusive : who are actually “ Assad mercenaries “ killing “ innocent Saudi tourists”in Syria? (Anyway the guest that calls himself a Sunni will say it’s a propaganda) 

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 4/27/2019 at 4:30 PM, Guest ASunniGuy said:

How many zionists has Assad killed? Next to none or very low insignificant numbers.

 How many Sunni Muslims has Assad massacred? 100,000+ easily. 

Muslims are against Israel because Israel oppresses Muslims. The syrians Assad massacres are Muslims too. Palestinian blood isn't more valuable than syrian blood.

Israel is probably jealous of Assad's support here, they kill one palestinian rock thrower and the Shias on this forum raise their virtual fists, Assad kills 100,000+ innocent Muslims and the Shias here call him the necessary evil or make excuses for him and say it's propaganda. 

You are mixing right & wrong to justify ISIS fighters as Sunnis but in reality they were Zionists with Islamic disguise anyway Assad killed more Zionist than people that call themselves a Sunni guy but you always condemn him for killing people that used by ISIS soldiers as human shield in war & was really hard to distinguish them from ISIS fighters that some Sunnis in first welcomed ISIS & Al Nusra Zionist fighters but they used them as human shields in battle  because they were thinking like as you that they are their saviors but when they used them as human shields again people like you blamed Assad for killing Sunnis 

zionist entity treats al Nosra to the hospital

https://youtu.be/r0ef0Fa3D18

Israel  treat wounded Islamic terrorists

https://youtu.be/T8uKLMXj87Q

ISIS ISISL DAESH TAKFIRI WAHABISM AND Israel ZIONISM SIMILARITIES 

https://youtu.be/vFQNXQci68M

Renowned Iraqi Sunni cleric : ISIS created by Jews ,Al Baghdadi is a dog (English subtitle)

https://youtu.be/6UQSlFgx0Eg

I.S.I.S & fake Israel :Arab Masonic Zionists vs true Muslim and Christians 

https://youtu.be/f_0DVASjhWI

Netanyahu visits Syrian injured in civil war , blames Iran for violence 

https://youtu.be/Egl9NzuiD8c

Netanyahu visits ISIS in Syria

https://youtu.be/nBjiScfsfkc

PM Netanyahu visits IDF Base treating wounded from Syria

https://youtu.be/5doeBEyjVDg

Syrian fighters rescued  by the UDF :The war next door 

https://youtu.be/G785kB8OKcU

 

Edited May 21, 2019 by Hassan-
Displayed videos to links

[Simon the Canaanite]

On 4/27/2019 at 10:30 PM, Guest ASunniGuy said:

How many zionists has Assad killed? Next to none or very low insignificant numbers.

How many Sunni Muslims has Assad massacred? 100,000+ easily. 

Muslims are against Israel because Israel oppresses Muslims. The syrians Assad massacres are Muslims too. Palestinian blood isn't more valuable than syrian blood.

Israel is probably jealous of Assad's support here, they kill one palestinian rock thrower and the Shias on this forum raise their virtual fists, Assad kills 100,000+ innocent Muslims and the Shias here call him the necessary evil or make excuses for him and say it's propaganda. 

His army, legions and brigades are all made up of Sunnis. By fighting him, in essence, you’re fighting your people. However, I’d love if you object to the construction of Israeli embassies in:

Jordan, Egypt, United Arab Emirates, Turkey and Saudi Arabia (in the heart of Riyadh).

Whilst, you can evidently see that there are no such embassies and friendly, warm relations between the aforesaid country, and ours, that includes: Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq and Bahrain.

It’d be a lot evenhanded and equitable, if you objected to your countries!

I’ll say what I said before:

"If you were Shi’ite, and you opposed him, he’d probably kill you too. His ‘Pan-Arabist’ ideology doesn't differ from any other traditional/classical Arabian dictator’s actions."

 

The lesson learned, is that he wants his throne, and instead of overthrowing him and firing up the land in chaos, and handing it over to the cannibalistic terrorists, that eat the hearts and livers of their opponents - why not keep him? He’s not sectarian, and is a superior counterpart (to the people that have logic, not yokels). Thus and so, I say, that you should stop feeding the Zionist media, that wants this war to keep on going, and answer your conscience.

On 5/1/2019 at 8:32 PM, Ashvazdanghe said:

zionist entity treats al Nosra to the hospital

Also, can you please not place way too many videos? It kind of ruins the thread, to spam it with multiple videos. Thanks.

Edited May 21, 2019 by Simon the Canaanite