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Akbar673

If a Shi'a runs for office in the U.S.

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4 hours ago, Akbar673 said:

More the reason for a Shi'a to run in my opinion. Politics and elected office isn't for the weak or the ignorant.

Politics is no longer about running for the people. Its self endulging self fulfiling egoisticism. Its all about characters playing a role like an actor on the world stage. Shia Islam is not a movie or a theatre play. 

4 hours ago, Akbar673 said:

That's been happening for decades already. (I.e. Ahmed Chalabi). Its time for a Shi'a to step forward

Step forward where? It's all gimick no matrer how much people try to change nothing changes. I don't follow politics but from the days I did I remember some major figure in American politics whose daughter was married to a Shia iranian influenced him to support Muslims but it was something that the men behind the scenes disapproved at the White House. Not surprisingly he disappeared from the world political stage. 

4 hours ago, Akbar673 said:

The only way to gain the support of the general masses is to come across as moral, inclusive and to disaprove the lies that are being pushed.

It doesn't matter what you try it will not work because the whole system is controled by them. The system is politics, mass media and popular culture. We do not own this complex machine and would only get hurt trying. 

4 hours ago, Akbar673 said:

A scumbag with a history of deceit and lack of character will of course be attacked because the attacks are true. You need an honest person with no baggage who can disprove the attacks by projecting morality and honesty

These were not scumbags but Pakistani, brown skinned Muslims with high public profiles. It was quite obvious to the whole nation it was propaganda bullying against them by the way media dismantled them every day by finding whatever they could and by lying. Now its all finished and forgotten and lives ruined tney got what they wanted. They control the masses as they wish like puppets and the masses cannot do anything. Being a public figure as a Muslim really is not the answer these days, trust me on that. 

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13 minutes ago, Akbar673 said:

Would you vote for me if I did ?...:D

On a side note, a Shi'a by the name of Yasmine Taeb is running for State Senate in Virginia. As is an Ahmediyya Muslim named Qasim Rashid in Virginia as well.

 

Maybe. 

I'll check out both of those people, see if they're in my district. 

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4 hours ago, Akbar673 said:

the U.S. you can't even make it onto a ballot without the support and endorsements from these groups. However, the bigger problem is that the Republicans have claimed Anti-Abortion, Anti-Gay positions as their own. No Muslim in their right mind should even go within a mile of being a Republican. As such, Muslims need to align themselves with the Democrats. Quite the dilemma. Also, there's only 4 million Muslims in the U.S. and most do not donate at a sufficient level. You can't run on only support from Muslims, its not enough.

21 hours ago, Murtaza1 said:

Anyway a Shia won’t have a chance because of being a minority inside the minority also Sunni groups won’t support him & rest of Americans will relate him/her to Iran so it’s better that candidate comes as independent person & only accepts support from groups that are in coherence with Shia Islamic value either republican or Democrat 

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3 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Anyway a Shia won’t have a chance because of being a minority inside the minority also Sunni groups won’t support him & rest of Americans will relate him/her to Iran so it’s better that candidate comes as independent person & only accepts support from groups that are in coherence with Shia Islamic value either republican or Democrat 

Sam Rasoul (Roanoke VA delegate) isn't Shia as far as I know, but to the average American there is no difference. 

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1 hour ago, notme said:

Sam Rasoul (Roanoke VA delegate) isn't Shia as far as I know, but to the average American there is no difference. 

Your right. Don't forget the saying 'wolves in sheeps clothes'. Nowadays people use Islam as a bandwagon to further their interests and gain recognition and popularity in a indirect way. 

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2 hours ago, Murtaza1 said:

Nowadays people use Islam as a bandwagon to further their interests and gain recognition and popularity in a indirect way. 

No, definitely not going to work for a politician in the United States. 

Might work for a media figure. 

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50 minutes ago, notme said:

No, definitely not going to work for a politician in the United States. 

Might work for a media figure. 

but it won't do any good to Islam because media would find ways to attack the religion regardless of whatever contribution a Muslim media figure may make to society

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On 4/17/2019 at 10:27 AM, Akbar673 said:

Do you mean in their favor personally with you, or overall ?

Also, if their position on issues didn't pair up with yours, the fact that they are Shi'a wouldn't sway you in their favor regardless?

Its irrelevant to me if they are backed by iranian lobby then definitely not 

If they are secular it's a moot point I'm indifferent 

If they are Arab most likely they will favor arabs so definitely not getting my vote 

Vanilla white secular leaders I want as leaders of United States otherwise this country will fall apart 

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12 hours ago, Murtaza1 said:

But does being a Shia mean coming from Iran? Shias live in many countries. 

Currently they see any Sunni Muslim as Arab representative that they don’t have problem with them like as KSA but they comsider that that every Shia has a connection with Iran in politics even he/she denies it but they will see him/her as a lobbyist for Iran & maybe Iraq .

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9 hours ago, Panzerwaffe said:

Vanilla white secular leaders I want as leaders of United States otherwise this country will fall apart 

I don’t see how a lighter skinned leader would make better changes to a country 

49 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

they comsider that that every Shia has a connection with Iran in politics even he/she denies it but they will see him/her as a lobbyist for Iran & maybe Iraq .

I think its America's lack of intelligence rooted in their culture which is their weak point. It is mind boggling how a superpower can be so stupid when we meet some of them that have never even travelled abroad and do not even have a passport. Its more worrying when their leaders have this type of mentality too. 

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1 hour ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Currently they see any Sunni Muslim as Arab representative that they don’t have problem with them like as KSA but they comsider that that every Shia has a connection with Iran in politics even he/she denies it but they will see him/her as a lobbyist for Iran & maybe Iraq .

No, as I've said before, to the American non-Muslim, there is no difference. None. Not any.

Non-Muslim Americans divide Muslims into two classes: "moderate" and "terrorist". What beliefs they hold or even talk about are irrelevant. 

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Sister @notme

The thing with titles is, we don't know what they mean by saying "moderate"

Who is a moderate according to Americans?

Irshad Manji LA :angry:, the lesbian that wants to reform Islam

Noor Taguri LA :sign_no:, the sick freak that went on Playboy mag

Nadia Ali LA :ranting: , the erotic dancer/pornographic actress who says she also prays and fasts, I know right?!?!?!?!

My standard is NEVER to please what people want from me, but what rab al 3lameen guided me through Qur'an and Ahulbayt.

 

 

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10 hours ago, Murtaza1 said:

I don’t see how a lighter skinned leader would make better changes to a country 

I think its America's lack of intelligence rooted in their culture which is their weak point. It is mind boggling how a superpower can be so stupid when we meet some of them that have never even travelled abroad and do not even have a passport. Its more worrying when their leaders have this type of mentality too. 

No but secular western upbringing will do wonders 

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9 hours ago, notme said:

No, as I've said before, to the American non-Muslim, there is no difference. None. Not any.

Non-Muslim Americans divide Muslims into two classes: "moderate" and "terrorist". What beliefs they hold or even talk about are irrelevant. 

It’s a little better than MSM  propagates about Islam & Muslims but rest of world by propaganda of Hollywood movies still are seeing Sunni Muslims as Arabs & Shias as representatives of Iran 

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2 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

It’s a little better than MSM  propagates about Islam & Muslims but rest of world by propaganda of Hollywood movies still are seeing Sunni Muslims as Arabs & Shias as representatives of Iran 

I can't remember ever having seen a Hollywood character that was Shia, but I really don't watch much TV or movies. I just read. 

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3 hours ago, notme said:

I can't remember ever having seen a Hollywood character that was Shia, but I really don't watch much TV or movies. I just read. 

Apart from Shia La boeuf or at least his name is called Shia lol

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12 hours ago, Murtaza1 said:

I don't understand what you mean 

Minority politicians play identity politics based on furthering the interests of their particular ethnic groups mostly 

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