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Will Bolton Get His War?

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There is an argument presented by Persoids that Iran spends too much on its regional activities, and that money could be better spent at home. The following is an extract from an FT story:

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https://www.ft.com/content/6b47d1dc-7179-11e9-bf5c-6eeb837566c5

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I am wondering whether the trade negotiations with the Chinese have a compromise position whereby the Americans go easy on the trade deal, in return for the Chinese to drop their economic and other support for the Iranians.

Of course, there might never be a public acknowledgement of a link between the two. The only evidence would be an agreed Sino/US trade deal and some weeks or months afterwards, the Chinese quietly dropping investments/trade deals in Iran.

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On 4/10/2019 at 12:51 PM, Akbar673 said:

Its not just Bolton that wants the war, its also...

  1. Benjamin Netanyahu
  2. Steve Bannon
  3. Robert Mercer
  4. Sheldon Adelson
  5. Haim Saban
  6. Mohammed Bin Salman
  7. Vladimir Putin
  8. Theresa May
  9. Every Arms manufacturer in the U.S. and Europe
  10. Every Petroleum Exec. who's companies stand to lose financially if the Persian Oil Patch is tapped and a physical pipeline is constructed from Iran/Iraq into Europe, Russia, China and India.
  11. Every Natural Gas Exec. as well.
  12. Every Evangelical 
  13. Every Zionist
  14. Every Wahabbi/Salafi

All of this is what is behind the Iran War. All about money and preventing the Petroleum from flowing from Iran/Iraq while maintaining the Saudi prodiction. The Israel angle only pertains to Evangelicals and Zionists. Its mostly about $$$. 

Note: I left Donald Trump off the list because he's not capapble of complex thought. He's a minion that does what his Evangelical masters tell him what to do.

Agree with EVERY one on that list except....Putin and China? I mean yeah he's a bad man but I thought he and China were the whole force behind Iran and Syria which prevented them from falling thus far

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47 minutes ago, Kirmani said:

Agree with EVERY one on that list except....Putin and China? I mean yeah he's a bad man but I thought he and China were the whole force behind Iran and Syria which prevented them from falling thus far

Putin and China only want Iran/Syria's petroleum at a cheaper price. That's all they are after.

Now, with Trump hitting China with tariffs you can expect China to hit back somehow.

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51 minutes ago, Kirmani said:

Agree with EVERY one on that list except....Putin and China? I mean yeah he's a bad man but I thought he and China were the whole force behind Iran and Syria which prevented them from falling thus far

Salam both  Putin & China are following their interests that looks like these two are supporting Iran but it’s policy of Allah to engages tyrants with tyrants both of them specially China have problem with Islam & they can betray to Iran less than a blink of eye but they are tools for greater plan of protection of Iran by Imam Mahdi (aj) that they are useful tools that they think that have Iran in their hands & don’t want to gift it to America but Iran is using them as shield .

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8 hours ago, Kirmani said:

Agree with EVERY one on that list except....Putin and China? I mean yeah he's a bad man but I thought he and China were the whole force behind Iran and Syria which prevented them from falling thus far

I very much doubt it is in Putin or China's interest to see Iran fall to the Americans. Putin saw the mistake that he had made with Libya and letting the Europeans get their way and he did not let Syria go the same way. For the past few years, there were lots of articles that he'd sell out Assad, that has not happened.

Similarly, for the Chinese, there is nothing to be gained by instability in that region given the money they are ploughing into Gwadar in Pakistan. Look how close it is to Sistan Baluchistan province in Iran. I doubt they'd be happy be more lawlessness there.

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In respond to  the question that " Will Bolton get his war"? I should say : بکلمتین ( by two words) NEVER EVER 

 Who the hell he thinks he is to attack our country ?? No man can attack Iran while we r alive. 

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The US war of attrition is not merely economic and diplomatic. Iran has faced cyber attacks. Its scientists have been assassinated, its ballistic missile programme sabotaged. It is the target of fake news and disinformation about its past nuclear activities and present-day links to terrorism. It is a country under siege. And US officials say they are just getting started.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/09/Trump-Iran-regime-change-resistance

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The top British general in the US-led coalition against Isis has said there is no increased threat from Iranian-backed forces in Iraq or Syria, directly contradicting US assertions used to justify a military buildup in the region.

Maj Gen Christopher Ghika, who is a deputy commander of Operation Inherent Resolve, the coalition conducting counter-terrorist operations against Isis in Iraq and Syria, was repeatedly questioned by reporters about the threat from Shia militias in Syria and Iraq, cited by US officials over the past week as justification for speeding up the deployment of an aircraft carrier strike group in the Gulf and for sending B-52 Stratofortress bombers and an anti-aircraft battery to the region.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/14/no-Iran-threat-in-Syria-or-Iraq-says-top-british-officer-in-defiance-of-us

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Hussein Dakroub| Th
May. 15, 2019 | 12:03 AM
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Hezbollah will join battle if US hits Iran

BEIRUT: Hezbollah and other Iranian-backed Shiite forces will join the battle if Iran were to be attacked by the U.S. or Israel over its nuclear program, political analysts said Tuesday.

They say the spiraling tensions in the volatile Gulf region as a result of the U.S. military deployment to confront alleged Iranian threats, coupled with the toughening of American sanctions on Iran, were designed to force Tehran to the negotiation table.

But any American or Israeli attack on Iran to punish it over its nuclear and ballistic missile program and interference in regional conflicts might trigger an all-our war that would involve all fronts. This could include the generally calm south Lebanon front, with Hezbollah and other Iranian-backed militias joining the battle, the analysts said.

Washington has ramped up economic and military pressure on Iran, with U.S. President Donald Trump last week urging Iranian leaders to talk to him about giving up their nuclear program and saying he could not rule out an armed confrontation.

Amid rising tensions with Tehran, the U.S. announced the deployment of an aircraft carrier, the USS Abraham Lincoln, and B-52 bombers to the Middle East in a show of force to counter what it says are “clear indications” of Iranian threats to U.S. forces there.

A Hezbollah source refused to say what the party would do if Iran were attacked by either America or Israel.

“The situation in the region is sensitive and critical. America’s policy aims to push the region toward tensions and instability, with the intention of exerting pressure on Iran and bringing it to the negotiation table,” the source told The Daily Star.

But in one of his speeches, Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah warned that all fronts - the Iraqi, Syrian and south Lebanon fronts - would be ignited if Iran were to be attacked by America or Israel. Nasrallah said Hezbollah, which is reported to possess over 100,000 medium and long-range missiles, had all the precision missiles it needed for “any upcoming war and to hit any target.”

Although neither Washington nor Tehran appears to be seeking war in the region, political analyst Kassem Kassir warned that things might spiral out of control as a result of the mounting tensions and exchange of threats between the two sides.

“There are fears that minor skirmishes between the U.S. and Iran might lead to an American attack against the Islamic Republic. Should this happen, all fronts, including the south Lebanon front, will be ignited and no one will be able then to foresee the scope and nature of the military battle and its arenas,” Kassir told The Daily Star.

Kassir said the battlefronts in the Middle East are intertwined. “This means that any war on any front will not be confined to one area,” he said.

Kassir recalled a speech by Nasrallah last year in which he warned that “hundreds of thousands of Arab and Muslim fighters” would be ready to fight against Israel if it attacked Lebanon.

This comes as tensions in the Gulf region rose to an alarming level this week, heightening fears of an imminent military confrontation between the U.S. and Iran amid an exchange of harsh rhetoric and threats between the two archfoes.

Saudi Arabia, a key ally of the U.S. and an archrival of Iran, said drones attacked one of its oil pipelines as other assaults targeted energy infrastructure elsewhere in the kingdom Tuesday, shortly after Yemen’s Iranian-backed Houthi rebels claimed a coordinated drone attack on Saudi Arabia.

The assaults marked the latest incidents challenging Mideast security after the alleged sabotage of oil tankers off the coast of the United Arab Emirates Sunday.

The attack on the Saudi oil pipeline came two days after two Saudi oil tankers and a Norwegian-flagged vessel were damaged in what Gulf officials described as a “sabotage” attack off the coast of the UAE.

While Gulf officials declined to say who they suspect may be responsible, the U.S. has warned ships that “Iran or its proxies” could be targeting maritime traffic in the region.

 
 

While accusing fingers are pointed at Iran, a spokesman for the Iranian Foreign Ministry warned against any “conspiracy orchestrated by ill-wishers” and “adventurism by foreigners” to undermine the maritime region’s stability and security.

Asked at the White House about the incident, Trump responded: “It’s going to be a bad problem for Iran if something happens ... I’m hearing little stories about Iran ... If they do anything they will suffer greatly.”

Tensions have risen since Trump withdrew the U.S. from the 2015 nuclear deal between Iran and world powers and restored sanctions that have pushed Iran’s economy into crisis.

Last week, Iran warned it would begin enriching uranium at higher levels in 60 days if world powers failed to negotiate new terms for the deal. An Israeli Cabinet minister has warned of possible direct or proxy Iranian attacks on Israel should the standoff between Tehran and Washington escalate.

While Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has largely been reticent about the U.S.-Iranian standoff, Israeli Energy Minister Yuval Steinitz said that, in the Gulf, “things are heating up.”

“If there’s some sort of conflagration between Iran and the United States, between Iran and its neighbors, I’m not ruling out that they will activate Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad from Gaza, or even that they will try to fire missiles from Iran at the state of Israel,” Steinitz, a member of Netanyahu’s security Cabinet, told Israel’s Ynet TV Sunday.

Imad Salamey, associate professor of political science and international affairs at the Lebanese American University, said the U.S. military show of force in the Gulf region was intended to force Iran to the negotiation table. But he warned that any war with Iran would push Hezbollah and other Iranian-backed Shiite forces to attack Israel.

“The U.S. intends to force Iran to the negotiation table through the threat of war and economic embargoes. The idea is to suffocate the Iranian economy and build internal and external pressure to concessions,” Salamey told The Daily Star. “An additional aim is to lift up the price tag of Chinese and Russian support to the Iranian regime to an unbearable level as to yield a containment of Iranian power.”

“The U.S. show of force demonstrates strong resolve to curb potential Iranian threats against its bases in the region. Military mobilizations have remained limited without amounting to a preparation for a full scale war,” he said.

Salamey said that neither side has, thus far, expressed an implicit or explicit aim for military confrontations. “Therefore, it remains premature to suggest an imminent war despite the delicate situation and limited escalations on the ground.”

But Salamey cautioned that a U.S. attack on Iran could spark a global war.

“A war with Iran could quickly turn into a WWII&1/2. The sides and the geographic range of such a war may easily span to include the direct and indirect participation of at least 10 countries, including regional and super powers,” he said.

“Hypothetically, if Israel decided to participate directly or logistically in assisting American forces, nothing would refrain Hezbollah and other Shiite forces aligned with the IRGC across the Iraqi, Syrian and Lebanese territories from targeting Israel,” Salamey added.

Iranian officials have warned that U.S. military bases and warships in the Gulf region would be targeted if Iran was attacked.

Trump is bent on throttling Tehran economically by cutting its oil exports after imposing new tough sanctions on the Islamic Republic to punish it for its ballistic missile and nuclear programs, its involvement in regional conflicts and its support for Hezbollah and other militant groups labeled “terrorist” by Washington.

Last week, Trump targeted Iran’s steel and mining sectors in his latest tough sanctions and threatened further action unless Tehran “fundamentally” changed its behavior.

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-News/2019/May-15/483190-hezbollah-will-join-battle-if-us-hits-Iran.ashx

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Imam Khamenei:

Neither a war will happen; nor will we negotiate

http://en.abna24.com/news//neither-a-war-will-happen-nor-will-we-negotiate_941597.html

May 15, 2019 - 2:58 PM News Code : 941597 Source : Khamenei.irLink: 
Neither a war will happen; nor will we negotiate
 

On the eighth day of the auspicious month of Ramadan, the heads of power branches, officials and government authorities as well as a group of senior managers of various sectors, members of parliament, political, social and cultural activists met with the Leader of the Islamic Revolution, Ayatollah Khamenei, on Tuesday, May 14, 2019. 

Ayatollah Khamenei informed his audience across the globe that, “The United States will definitely fail in its policy of countering the Islamic Republic and their plots will end up to our benefit. 

The Supreme Leader then advised everyone not be awe-stricken by U.S.’s outward glory and asserted: So beware not to glorify the enemy. Of course, we cannot underestimate them either; but they are not that strong and they suffer from a lot of problems. 

His Eminence went on to assert: No one should fear the apparent grandeur of the U.S.; neither their grandeur nor the wealth of the Qaruns of the Persian Gulf: their real power is much less than their uproar. No one should fear the apparent grandeur of the U.S.; this is a big mistake. 

Finally, Ayatollah Khamenei reminded his audience of the many fiascos of the U.S. in their policies against the Islamic Republic and added: Their plots have usually bounced back at them and ended up being harmful to themselves both politics and security wise. Through their media, the economic experts in the U.S. are warning their politicians that this pressure will lead to an economic boom in Iran. The domineering powers seek to reach their goals by making uproars, however, their power is much less than their claims. Billions of dollars have been spent against us, yet they failed to do anything. 

 


 

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Late last year, several rockets fell harmlessly near the American embassy in Baghdad and the American consulate in Basra during a halting and acrimonious government formation process in which the United States tried to thwart Iraqi militia members from shaping the nation’s cabinet following elections in which they gained the second most seats in parliament.

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/rocket-lands-near-us-embassy-inside-baghdads-green-zone/2019/05/19/c09c42ee-7a66-11e9-a66c-d36e482aa873_story.html?utm_term=.c12b2ecd31a8

 

In case anyone was wondering what sort of democracy the Americans have in mind for Iran.

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