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Feminine and masculine traits

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5 hours ago, Sumerian said:

I never said Islam supported capitalism, I said Islam has capitalism - meaning certain parts of Islamic economics are capitalistic in nature, such as the belief in private property, markets, contracts etc...

These are mechanisms that predate the word “capitalism”, and are not exclusive to it. 

Capitalism is not simply private transactions, it’s a social system where the culture is primarily subjected to the forces of capital. 

Anyway, we’re way off topic.

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Salam Alaykum

I have an interesting psychology article that may contribute to this topic. I don't like anything that has to do with ''humanist'' extremely atheist Sweden and getting the answers of my religion from there is not something that I approve to either. But I really bursted out in sarcastic laugh(sorry) when I read the article.

The original article is in swedish (https://fof.se/tidning/2019/1/artikel/jamlika-man-och-kvinnor-ar-mer-olika), this one is translated: 

''When people themselves estimate their personalities, the differences between the sexes are greater in equal countries. It is evident from a study in which men and women in 22 countries have had to estimate their personality traits within what is commonly referred to as psychology as "Big Five": openness, conscientiousness, extroversion / introversion, benevolence and emotionality.

The differences between men and women in countries with a high degree of gender equality were greatest. Women in these countries especially rated the characteristics of benevolence and extroversion higher than men.

- We got a relatively strong connection, says Erik Mac Giolla, researcher in psychology at the University of Gothenburg and associate professor at the Högskolan Väst and the main author of the study.

- This is really nothing new - we have seen similar results in several major studies over the past 15 years.

In other studies it has been found that gender differences in the choice of education follow similar patterns.

- In Sweden, for example, there are fewer women in engineering education than in Algeria, says Erik Mac Giolla. This is in line with our results.

Exactly why this is so is difficult to say. It has long been thought that gender differences should decrease with increased gender equality.

- There are theories that the biological differences become clearer when gender equality increases. Others argue that increased gender equality can make the gender identity more important, which can explain that men and women then make different choices, says Erik Mac Giolla.

Repeated studies over time could find the mechanisms behind this. If one can follow countries that become more equal over time, one can see if, and how, men's and women's preferences change.

- At the moment we do not know if this has happened over time, says Erik Mac Giolla. We can only state that more equal countries have greater gender differences in these issues.

How have your results been received?

- As I said, this is nothing new in personality research. I don't think this is controversial, but many social scientists and humanists seem to think so. So it depends on who you ask, but my feeling is that in Sweden many mean that this is controversial. Our study has received great attention internationally, but not in Swedish media.

Why is this controversial do you think?

- I don't know, says Erik Mac Giolla. But I think the results go against some form of consensus on the gender roles.

The results are based on surveys with over 130,000 people aged 19 to 69 in 22 different countries, and are published in the International Journal of Psychology.''

2018-11-03 

 

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The makinations (it’s a God work from Islamicpulse but is a little harsh & not recommended for children +18]

 

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On 3/31/2019 at 12:29 AM, Reza said:

These are mechanisms that predate the word “capitalism”, and are not exclusive to it. 

Capitalism is not simply private transactions, it’s a social system where the culture is primarily subjected to the forces of capital. 

Anyway, we’re way off topic.

"A social and cultural system". All nonsense. Capitalism is simply an economic system.

Merriam-Webster;

Capitalism: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market.

So yes, these are all components capitalism, whether they predate the existence of the word or not. These mechanisms as you put it would not exist in a completely socialist or communist society. 

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3 hours ago, Sumerian said:

These mechanisms as you put it would not exist in a completely socialist or communist society. 

Such a pure system has never existed and possibly can never exist. As long as there is trade, there will be elements of capitalism. Even if a society is purely socialist or communist, if they engage in trade with neighbor societies, there are elements of capitalism. 

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3 hours ago, Sumerian said:

"A social and cultural system". All nonsense. Capitalism is simply an economic system.

Where does “economics” end and “social and cultural” begin? 

People engage in economic transactions, but are also part of society. Economics doesn’t exist unless there’s a social container holding it.

Which is why every social transaction can be interpreted as an economic transaction.

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Listened to this on BBC Radio 4, quite relevant to what was discussed in the thread:

https://www.bbc.co.United Kingdom/sounds/play/m0003tcm

What it means to be a man in today’s world is confusing. There are lots of mixed messages. Men are often portrayed as needing to be the alpha male, remain strong under pressure, to get on and succeed in life but they are also supposed to be loving, caring, sensitive and talk about feelings. So what does it mean to be a man today? How should we define masculinity and what answers and tips can religion give to men today? Joining Ernie Rea to discuss these questions are Rabbi Neil Janes, Congregational Rabbi at the West London Synagogue; Dr. Andrew Boakye, Lecturer in Religions and Theology at the University of Manchester and Assad Zaman, an Imam at several mosques in Manchester. Plus Citizen Khan actor Abdullah Afzal talks about how he juggles with competing pressures on how to be a modern Muslim man.

Next week is Femininity and Religion

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1 hour ago, Propaganda_of_the_Deed said:

Men are often portrayed as needing to be the alpha male, remain strong under pressure, to get on and succeed in life but they are also supposed to be loving, caring, sensitive and talk about feelings. 

Shocking. The same expectations upon men as have been upon women since forever. (Among poor women, this always has been the expectation; middle class women, at least since the 1970s.)

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13 hours ago, Reza said:

Where does “economics” end and “social and cultural” begin? 

People engage in economic transactions, but are also part of society. Economics doesn’t exist unless there’s a social container holding it.

Which is why every social transaction can be interpreted as an economic transaction.

Lol so where do these "mechanisms" fit if not for capitalism?

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