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Sumerian

Protectiveness and gender

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Some people object to certain families and parents who are more protective of their daughter or female members in comparison with their sons or male family members. 

I find this nonsensical because obviously a woman is more vulnerable to abuse and harrassment in comparison with a man. She is obviously an easier target. A child is also an easier target than a grown adult. And it isn't the fault of women, it is the fault of society and especially abusive and creepy guys.

I think it is necessary to evaluate risks and hazards simply based on possibility, likelihood and vulnerability rather than political correctness or virtue signalling. We see this attitude in the current attempts to pit females against males in sports, especially violent combat sports, which is pathetic but that's what extreme political correctness does.

What do you people think?

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9 hours ago, Sumerian said:

She is obviously an easier target. A child is also an easier target than a grown adult.

Lol. Women are comparable to children now eh? 

9 hours ago, Sumerian said:

think it is necessary to evaluate risks and hazards simply based on possibility, likelihood and vulnerability rather than political correctness or virtue signalling

You're right that we should protect young girls from certain situations because of certain disgusting people that exist. But, just because girls are at a higher risk of being attacked / abused at 10pm at night, doesn't mean boys are immune to any danger either. Yes, girls can get attacked and hurt by malicious predators. But boys can also be at risk of huge dangers if their parents let them out 24/7 not questioning anything. What about the rising threat of gang violence and drug and alcohol abuse? Are those not all threats posed on young men? If you let your 15 year old son be out of the house all day, let him socialise with all sorts of strangers and friends, is there not a huge risk of allowing him to be subject to such threats? 

In my opinion, we should treat young boys and girls similarly. That doesn't mean letting a girl walk in a dark alley alone at night. It means making sure you have an identical curfew for boys and girls. Both son and daughter should be home by Xpm. You do so in protection of your daughter and son's vulnerability. Only difference is the two are vulnerable to different things. The girl is more vulnerable physically while the boy is more vulnerable socially and even physically (considering drug/alcohol abuse and gang culture). 

I think the threat posed on boys by such things is underplayed because it is thought to make them "toughen up" and dealing with such things will help him "be a man ". That type of thinking is faulty on so many levels. 

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There is certainly some truth to gender generalisations; but at the end of the day, every individual is different. You have to treat your children according to their individual needs. If your daughter needs more protection than your son, you should give her more protection; and if the opposite, then the opposite. 

Boys need support and protection too. Teenage boys commit suicide nine times more than girls: one reason for which could be the fact that the type of emotional support available to girls is often not available to boys.

Girls also need to learn how to protect themselves. It's important to keep them safe and secure; but not to the degree of treating them like cute little fluffy kittens. 

Edited by SirajDin

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39 minutes ago, 2Timeless said:

Lol. Women are comparable to children now eh? 

No, not really. I'm saying certain segments of society are more vulnerable. Children are more vulnerable than adults, women are more vulnerable than men. Heck, even adults are different. A 5'6 man is more vulnerable than a 6'2 man. It is simply human logic, people are individuals, and individuals don't have the same level of vulnerability. If I wanted to hire someone for a job that is of high risk, I wouldn't hire the more vulnerable person even if they were of the same age and same gender, would I? I would hire based on ability and also yes, natural physique. It matters. Are you saying it doesn't matter, and we should treat everyone the exact same and disregard gender as even a factor? Do you not believe certain jobs,tasks and occupations are more suitable for men, and vice versa? Do you not see that certain social gatherings are more suitable for men?

47 minutes ago, 2Timeless said:

You're right that we should protect young girls from certain situations because of certain disgusting people that exist. But, just because girls are at a higher risk of being attacked / abused at 10pm at night, doesn't mean boys are immune to any danger either. Yes, girls can get attacked and hurt by malicious predators. But boys can also be at risk of huge dangers if their parents let them out 24/7 not questioning anything. What about the rising threat of gang violence and drug and alcohol abuse? Are those not all threats posed on young men? If you let your 15 year old son be out of the house all day, let him socialise with all sorts of strangers and friends, is there not a huge risk of allowing him to be subject to such threats? 

No one said boys are immune from danger, I said girls are more vulnerable and an easier prey. No one in the world is immune, not even heads of State. 

And no minor should be allowed out all day, but that doesn't mean we have to treat every single minor the exact same way. That is a strange assertion. Can a 15 year old boy work in a construction site, a high risk environment? Yes he can. Can a 15 year old girl? Well that would be stupid.

54 minutes ago, 2Timeless said:

In my opinion, we should treat young boys and girls similarly. That doesn't mean letting a girl walk in a dark alley alone at night. It means making sure you have an identical curfew for boys and girls. Both son and daughter should be home by Xpm. You do so in protection of your daughter and son's vulnerability. Only difference is the two are vulnerable to different things. The girl is more vulnerable physically while the boy is more vulnerable socially and even physically (considering drug/alcohol abuse and gang culture). 

I think the threat posed on boys by such things is underplayed because it is thought to make them "toughen up" and dealing with such things will help him "be a man ". That type of thinking is faulty on so many levels. 

Identical curfew? Really? Why would you treat people the same knowing that different variables and factors exist? I would even treat two boys of the same age differently, like I said, solely based on ability and physique.

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This overprotectiveness is the reason why my father refused to let me study at the university of my choice. (I have family in the city I wanted to be, so it’s not like I was going to be alone.) While all my friends, cousins of the same age, male and female, got the best college experience and got to travel abroad. While I stayed home, depressed and utterly miserable. All because I am a woman. 

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18 minutes ago, Islandsandmirrors said:

This overprotectiveness is the reason why my father refused to let me study at the university of my choice. (I have family in the city I wanted to be, so it’s not like I was going to be alone.) While all my friends, cousins of the same age, male and female, got the best college experience and got to travel abroad. While I stayed home, depressed and utterly miserable. All because I am a woman. 

overprotectiveness can be an issue but it doesnt mean we demand from every single human regardless of age, gender, physique etc.. the exact same thing. We can even treat two people of the same gender and age the same based on ability and physique. Certain jobs for example are more suitable for some people over others. Like a trades job, commercial job, military job, security job etc...

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