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Offensive Jihad Under Infallible Imam Only?

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2 minutes ago, Urwatul Wuthqa said:

"The tribes of Bani Salim raised a huge army to launch a surprise attack on Madina in order to kill the believers and arrest the Holy Prophet. The Holy Prophet, after receiving the information, sent one of his companions along with a party of Muslim warriors to prevent the planned attack"

Perhaps this is the example with us for offensive Jihad!

No in this case it was defensive because the enemy was already moving towards the Prophet it seems. Thank God we have Qur'an to be the benchmark for things that can even explain possible reasons for attacking in incomplete stories as the above, if they true.

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My argument remains that it can only occur under the Imam (aj).

"Significantly, in contrast to Sunni jurists who aspired to reconstitute Muslim power, most mujtahids had viewed expansionist or offensive jihad as illegitimate in the absence of the Hidden Imam and continue to do so. In contrast, most mujtahids align with Sunni jurists in the belief that defensive jihad against foreign aggression on the umma is obligatory."

"Broadly speaking, the concept of jihad for both Shi’a and Sunnisis multivalent. A key theoretical difference between the two concepts lies in the Shi’a belief that an offensive jihad cannot be carried out during the occultation of the Hidden Imam, though defensive jihad to aid oppressed people beyond the borders of the concerned Muslim society can occur if it is in accordance with a legal ruling by a mujtahid. Significantly, the ideology of Salafi-jihadism similarly defines the concept of jihad as in defense of Islam, but the Shi’a concept of jihad does not allow for the Salafi-Jihadi goal of reconstituting Muslim political power, even in the case of oppression."

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/fikraforum/view/contextualizing-jihad-and-takfir-in-the-Shia-conceptual-framework

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7 minutes ago, 313 Seeker said:

Thank God we have Qur'an to be the benchmark for things that can even explain possible reasons for attacking in incomplete stories as the above, if they true.

Actually it is mentioned in the tafseer of chapter Al-Adiyaat

[Shakir 100:3] Then those that make raids at morn,
 

9 minutes ago, 313 Seeker said:

No in this case it was defensive because the enemy was already moving towards the Prophet

Enemy is not moving but they do planned to launch surprise attack and raised army for that. The response from Muslims was a sort of preemptive strike. I think it can come under offense because you have questioned who will attack first.

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2 minutes ago, Urwatul Wuthqa said:

Actually it is mentioned in the tafseer of chapter Al-Adiyaat

[Shakir 100:3] Then those that make raids at morn,
 

Enemy is not moving but they do planned to launch surprise attack and raised army for that. The response from Muslims was a sort of preemptive strike. I think it can come under offense because you have questioned who will attack first.

You don’t know the details of this story, but we have Qur'an and the orders of Prophet to guide us, we trust this campaign was done under the rules and limitations of Qur'an and what the Prophet preached concerning this.

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4 minutes ago, 313 Seeker said:

You don’t know the details of this story, but we have Qur'an and the orders of Prophet to guide us, we trust this campaign was done under the rules and limitations of Qur'an and what the Prophet preached concerning this.

That's the title of this thread "Offensive Jijad under infallible Imam only". Qur'an & Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) both are infallible and the Imams from Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) too

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6 hours ago, 313 Seeker said:

Can anybody get me the words "offensive jihad" from anywhere in Qur'an or hadith? Or is it an invented concept and terminology as I've been saying?

There is no term of defensive or offensive. It just jihad. But we trying to see if jihad can be proactive as well as reactive

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Amir al-Mu’minin `Ali ibn Abi Talib (peace be upon him) has said:

أُمِرْتُ أَنْ أُقٌاتِلَ النٌّاسَ حَتَّـى يَقُولُوا لاٌ إِلٌهَ إِلاٌّ اللٌّهَ فَإِذٌا قٌالُوهٌا فَقَدْ حَرُمَ عَلَيَّ دِمٌاؤُهُمْ وَ أَمْوٌالُهُمْ

“I have been commanded to fight the people until they testify that there is no creature or entity worthy of worship except for Allah, and when they say this then at that time, their blood and property are sacrosanct.”

Bihar al-Anwar, Volume 68, Page 262.

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12 hours ago, Ejaz said:

But will Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام). do offensive jihad?

I have heard of narrations stating that he will not be as merciful as Imam Ali (عليه السلام).

Salam he will follow exactly policy of Imam Ali (عليه السلام) in war but in first 8 months after his reappearance he restlessly will fight with his enemies until all of them accept him or will be  killed & during this 8 months won't  be a peace 

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