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ali_fatheroforphans

I lack physical strength

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Salam,

I have noticed that even after 3 years worth of gyming, I don't even have much strength. I can only lift max 30 kg dumbells (total). 

Recently I had an arm wrestling match with this 17 year old, and he has never ever visited a gym, yet he won against me. 

I donno if I'm eating the wrong food or just happen to be naturally weak. How can I gain strength? Is there any sport or exercise I can do?

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Arm wrestling is very technical, if you can curl 30kg with correct form. You should have won the arm wrestling against a non gym goer. Either you curling technique. Is poor or your arm wrestling technique is poor.

What is you height and weight and how much do you squat and deadlift. This is a better indicator of strength.

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1 minute ago, Propaganda_of_the_Deed said:

Swimming is the best.

This is great for cardiovascular. But for strength either judo/ wrestling or Olympic lifting. You will need a coach. Don't try Olympic style lifits without a trainer.

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2 minutes ago, ali_fatheroforphans said:

Great lol, I can only swim with a life jacket on.

You should learn it's important, could even save your life.

It is the only exercise that more or less works every part of the body.

Also lacks the pressure on joints you put on yourself when lifting.

Look at Phelps physique, dude eats all kind of junk too.

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2 hours ago, Warilla said:

This is great for cardiovascular. But for strength either judo/ wrestling or Olympic lifting. You will need a coach. Don't try Olympic style lifits without a trainer.

Swimming is commonly thought of as a cardiovascular workout—it challenges your heart and lungs as you repeatedly travel the length of the pool, racking up those laps. But viewing swimming workouts as only cardiovascular sells the activity short. When you travel through water, every single movement you make works against the natural resistance of the water itself—every push, every pull, every kick, and stroke, requires you to displace the water around your body, pushing it out of the way.

That, by itself, offers an opportunity to enhance muscular endurance. It also means you can plan workout routines to maximize the resistance training effect of swimming, using tools and a combination of laps and pool-based bodyweight exercises to further develop strength.

https://www.verywellfit.com/swimming-workouts-that-build-strength-4155213

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I get what you are saying. But somebody who already goes gym and trains for strength will see a difference in muscle endurance but the resistance is not enough to see large gains in strength. When I say cardiovascular I mean the majority of the effect. As weight lifting is seen has "strength" but also gets your heart pumping faster and resp rate up. Every excercise hit muscle and cardiovascular but it's about desired effect and most efficient path to the initial goal.

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2 hours ago, ali_fatheroforphans said:

Salam,

I have noticed that even after 3 years worth of gyming, I don't even have much strength. I can only lift max 30 kg dumbells (total). 

Recently I had an arm wrestling match with this 17 year old, and he has never ever visited a gym, yet he won against me. 

I donno if I'm eating the wrong food or just happen to be naturally weak. How can I gain strength? Is there any sport or exercise I can do?

Lol isn’t 30kg good ? 

Try protein shakes, they might help. 

And diet is also important. Are you eating enough steak and chicken ? 

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11 minutes ago, ali_fatheroforphans said:

I'm 178 cm and weigh 67 kg.

I can squat 20 kg max, I've never tried anything above that.

This is a big problem. You can dumbbell curls 30kg but only squat 20kg 

Ok I suggest you get a fitness trainer or take up judo (if in Europe)or wrestling( if you live in the United States). Then supplement it with a core weight lifting program. Based on deadlift and squats as your consistent lifts.

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Let's say you begin lifting weights and take up wrestling. You will be a beast in 2 years. Your strength and endurance will be amazing.

Ps as the brother said try and swim as well it will help in whatever you do.

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4 minutes ago, Warilla said:

This is a big problem. You can dumbbell curls 30kg but only squat 20kg 

Yeah man, I feel like I'm not going hard enough when I'm at the gym or my form is not the best. I just rely on the exercises my brother taught me. I've never considered investing in a personal trainer.

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@ali_fatheroforphans brother I had the same problem of lack of energy and feeling sleepy and tired for many years which effected my life and jobs until I had a blood test to reveal that I had an Underactive Thyroid gland. many people have it. my doctor gave me tablets to have every day for life. the medicine improved my life. I got my energy back and I was able to work again. its worth having a blood test. there is nothing to fear because as I say many people have this condition as the chemist told me because they make the medicine for many people.

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2 hours ago, ali_fatheroforphans said:

 I don't even have much strength.

I thought that was a common IndoPak trait? 

Most I meet are super thin toothpicks who can't lift a box. They lack the Persian wrestling genes. Also why they don't win any athletic competitions.

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53 minutes ago, Reza said:

I thought that was a common IndoPak trait? 

Most I meet are super thin toothpicks who can't lift a box. They lack the Persian wrestling genes. Also why they don't win any athletic competitions.

Wrestling is very popular in India and Pakistan. India have won world medals in wrestling.

As for who you meet go meet some Punjabi Sikhs.

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53 minutes ago, Reza said:

I thought that was a common IndoPak trait? 

Most I meet are super thin toothpicks who can't lift a box. They lack the Persian wrestling genes. Also why they don't win any athletic competitions.

You seem quite ignorant about sports.  Based on sports accomplishments one could easily argue Pakistanis are way more athletic than Persians.  Squash, Hockey and Cricket champions.

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3 minutes ago, King said:

You seem quite ignorant about sports.  Based on sports accomplishments one could easily argue Pakistanis are way more athletic than Persians.  Squash, Hockey and Cricket champions.

I'm talking about sports that actually matter in the world. Squash and cricket ain't the Olympics or World Cup.

Anyway, not here to get into the lions den. Peace out!

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31 minutes ago, Warilla said:

Wrestling is very popular in India and Pakistan. India have won world medals in wrestling.

As for who you meet go meet some Punjabi Sikhs.

Kabbadi,Kabbadi, Kabbadi....!:grin:

@ali_fatheroforphans The best way to develop physical strength is........ to become a mother! :hahaha: a hands on one.

No, I am serious. Last week a an old coworker commented that she tried to copy me by carrying a laptop bag in one hand, books in the other (thick volumes of medical books) and a bag on the shoulder and walking from the parking lot to the office.She says she gave up after a few minutes and was surprised how I managed to do it everyday. What she didn't know was I had years of strength training lugging grocery bags while carrying a toddler and a bulky bag filled with baby essentials. :grin: 

Women rock!

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8 minutes ago, starlight said:

The best way to develop physical strength is........ to become a mother! :hahaha: a hands on one.

Omg you legit remind me of my mum. I once struggled to lift something, then she started questioning my gym membership. 

Sometimes I tell my mum how I need to go to the gym to gain strength. This is her response: "betaa gym ka kaya faida hai? Ghar mein tum ne pichlay das saal say kabhi toilet nai saaf kiya na tumnay laundri kabi saaf ki"

Translation: My son, what's the point of you going to the gym, when you haven't even cleaned the toilets nor the laundry for the previous ten years.

:hahaha:

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You have to slowly increase your weights at the gym. Lift heavy, fewer reps. 

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Change your workout routine to Push-Pull-Leg 6 days a week. Increase wieght by 2-5 pounds every week until you reach your threshold. With proper recovery and eating, you should get bigger and stronger.

For personal tips, message me privately. I can share my workout schedule that you can try for yourself.

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30 kgs in 3 years is very less. It is important to increase weight of the dumbells every week atleast or increase your reps. 

If you're not able to do that means you lack stamina. Look for a personal trainer. Diet will do nothing if you aren't lifting properly. 

For arm wrestling, do 2 reps of forearms every alternate day. Forget 17, even 70 year old will shiver against your mighty arm power. 

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On 2/24/2019 at 10:32 AM, Sirius_Bright said:

Diet will do nothing if you aren't lifting properly. 

Respectfully disagree. Diet is absolutely and entirely everything. Lifting comes secondary. You can gain tremendous strength from eating a lot. In fact, people who weight more -- can lift more. Just look at power lifters compared to bodybuilders. 

I would say, center your diet on around 50-30-20 protein-fat-carbs and get in that gym and just focus on compound lifts. 

The big 4: Squats, Deadlift, Bench Press and OHP. 

Tl;Dr.. Eat a lot, lift heavy compound.

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3 minutes ago, Wise Muslim said:

Respectfully disagree. Diet is absolutely and entirely everything. Lifting comes secondary.

I think you misunderstood me. Planning a diet like (eggs, bananas, Protein sources, etc) are important but in our brother's case it is necessary for him to lift properly otherwise he won't get the desired strength.

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9 minutes ago, Wise Muslim said:

I would say, center your diet on around 50-30-20 protein-fat-carbs

I think 20 grams is a very low amount of carbs. Maybe you meant the other way round between fat and carbs, although I would personally make carbs no lower than 70 but at the very least no lower than 40

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On 2/24/2019 at 1:51 PM, ali_fatheroforphans said:

Salam,

I have noticed that even after 3 years worth of gyming, I don't even have much strength. I can only lift max 30 kg dumbells (total). 

Recently I had an arm wrestling match with this 17 year old, and he has never ever visited a gym, yet he won against me. 

I donno if I'm eating the wrong food or just happen to be naturally weak. How can I gain strength? Is there any sport or exercise I can do?

Too late to the party here but answer me this;

1. Are you eating enough

2. Are you consistent in your workout routines?

3. Are you upping the amount you lift gradually?

4. Have you thought about visiting the doctor?

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