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8 minutes ago, Propaganda_of_the_Deed said:

I literally put that into Google, quotations and all. No Quranic ayah came up.

And you did not kill them, but it was Allah who killed them. And you threw not, [O Muhammad], when you threw, but it was Allah who threw that He might test the believers with a good test. Indeed, Allah is Hearing and Knowing. Qur'an 8:17

This is because Every good comes from Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى).

Edited by Abu Nur

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Just now, Abu Nur said:

And you did not kill them, but it was Allah who killed them. And you threw not, [O Muhammad], when you threw, but it was Allah who threw that He might test the believers with a good test. Indeed, Allah is Hearing and Knowing. Qur'an 8:17

Oh ok. My guy was talking about throwing pebbles earlier.

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2 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

Brother.In reality  all actions, and attributes and essence is only of Allah'. We are not recognising because we are veiled by sins and shrik.

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36 minutes ago, Hadi5 said:

You don't believe.Means you have not come across with information that all actions are Allahs.You need to grow up brother.Otherwise you will remain with poor understanding of Tawheed.

Predestination is a Sunni belief.

Free Will is a Shia belief. 

It's that's simple brother.

 

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39 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

Every action Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) allows it or not. And every good action is by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى).

Allah knowing about an action is different Allah performing that action.

8 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

And you did not kill them, but it was Allah who killed them. And you threw not, [O Muhammad], when you threw, but it was Allah who threw that He might test the believers with a good test. Indeed, Allah is Hearing and Knowing. Qur'an 8:17

This is because Every good comes from Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى).

Do you believe Allah actually threw?

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15 minutes ago, ShiaMan14 said:

Predestination is a Sunni belief.

Free Will is a Shia belief. 

It's that's simple brother.

 

Real Islam has nothing to do with what common Shia or Sunni says.Neither it means what ever come from Sunni is wrong.

And more important my question wasn't about predestination and free will.

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23 minutes ago, Hadi5 said:

Brother.In reality  all actions, and attributes and essence is only of Allah'. We are not recognising because we are veiled by sins and shrik.

If I say All Good is from Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) and All Evil is from Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), does it not contradict to the verse?

What comes to you of good is from Allah, but what comes to you of evil, [O man], is from yourself. 

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2 minutes ago, Hadi5 said:

Real Islam has nothing to do with what common Shia or Sunni says.Neither it means what ever come from Sunni is wrong.

And more important my question wasn't about predestination and free will.

You said "Shia belief" multiple times on pg1.

Simple question, if Allah performs actions, then will go to Heaven or the people who do good actions?

 

 

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21 minutes ago, ShiaMan14 said:

Allah knowing about an action is different Allah performing that action.

Do you believe Allah actually threw?

Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) action and will is explained very well in Qur'an and Hadiths of our Imams (عليه السلام), I'm talking in that ground.

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11 minutes ago, ShiaMan14 said:

You said "Shia belief" multiple times on pg1.

Simple question, if Allah performs actions, then will go to Heaven or the people who do good actions?

 

 

There is difference between intention  and action.

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15 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

 

Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) action and will is explained very well in Qur'an and Hadiths of our Imams (عليه السلام), I'm talking in that ground.

Unity of Act (tawhid al-af’Ali). That is, at the first stage he perceives that whatever is seen by the eye and pronounced by the tongue and heard by the ear and performed with the hands, feet and other organs and members derives in its entirely from his own soul (nafs), and the soul does what it wills. Then he perceives that the acts that occur in the external world derive from himself, and his soul is the source of all the external acts. Then he finds that his soul subsists through the Divine Being and is a door for the grace and mercy of God. Hence all acts in the external world derive from His Sacred Being.

Mohammed Hussain Tabtabie

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1 hour ago, Hadi5 said:

Is it true what ever  action we see  happening in our sourrounding be it natural phenomenon,or human's or animals is all  actions of Allah. @Anonymous2144 @ShiaMan14  @eThErEaL @notme @Sirius_Bright.

@power @layman 

 

This is called Tawhid Al-Afaliyya.   Oneness of Action. It means that there is no act but God's.

This is a basic fundamental of tawhid taught in all Shia and Sunni madrassas around the world.  Anyone who doesn't know about this means that he/she wasn't trained sufficiently or that there is a severe lack of education in the particular community he/she grew up in.   

 

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21 minutes ago, ShiaMan14 said:

You said "Shia belief" multiple times on pg1.

Simple question, if Allah performs actions, then will go to Heaven or the people who do good actions?

 

 

The First World: It is the world of the Unity of Act (tawhid al-af’Ali). That is, at the first stage he perceives that whatever is seen by the eye and pronounced by the tongue and heard by the ear and performed with the hands, feet and other organs and members derives in its entirely from his own soul (nafs), and the soul does what it wills. Then he perceives that the acts that occur in the external world derive from himself, and his soul is the source of all the external acts. Then he finds that his soul subsists through the Divine Being and is a door for the grace and mercy of God. Hence all acts in the external world derive from His Sacred Being.

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3 minutes ago, eThErEaL said:

This is called Tawhid Al-Afaliyya.   Oneness of Action. It means that there is no act but God's.

This is a basic fundamental of tawhid taught in all Shia and Sunni madrassas around the world.  Anyone who doesn't know about this means that he/she wasn't trained sufficiently or that there is a severe lack of education in the particular community he/she grew up in.   

 

@notme @ShiaMan14 @Abu Nur.

The above reply from eThral will help you.

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53 minutes ago, eThErEaL said:

This is called Tawhid Al-Afaliyya.   Oneness of Action. It means that there is no act but God's.

This is a basic fundamental of tawhid taught in all Shia and Sunni madrassas around the world.  Anyone who doesn't know about this means that he/she wasn't trained sufficiently or that there is a severe lack of education in the particular community he/she grew up in.   

 

Isnt that Tawheed Al-Ruboobiyah?

And isn't that Oneness about no one other than Allah doing the actions that only Allah can perform, eg. Only Allah can give life.

 

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57 minutes ago, Hadi5 said:

The First World: It is the world of the Unity of Act (tawhid al-af’Ali). That is, at the first stage he perceives that whatever is seen by the eye and pronounced by the tongue and heard by the ear and performed with the hands, feet and other organs and members derives in its entirely from his own soul (nafs), and the soul does what it wills. Then he perceives that the acts that occur in the external world derive from himself, and his soul is the source of all the external acts. Then he finds that his soul subsists through the Divine Being and is a door for the grace and mercy of God. Hence all acts in the external world derive from His Sacred Being.

Brother, you should quote the entire section:

One of the important issues in the discussion of Tawhid (monotheism) is in relation to Tawhid-e-Af’Ali (belief in the unity of the actions of Allah ((سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى))) and if one possesses the correct understanding of this issue, then it would have a profound impact on one's life.

The belief in 'Unity of the actions of Allah ((سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى))' informs us that everything and everyone which exists in the entire universe - even the leaves of a tree which move with the passing breeze - originate from Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). Nothing can take place without His command - the cutting which the sword performs, the burning which a fire produces and all other actions stem from His order. To sum this belief up in one sentence, we refer to the tradition mentioned in Bihar al-Anwar that reads:

لاَ مُؤَثِّرَ فِي الْوُجُودِ إِلاَّ اللٌّهَ.

“There is no one effector in the creation except Allah.”2

Even our own freedom and the choices we make in life all originate from Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), since if He had not given us the power of choice, then we would not be able to do a single thing! However at the same time, we understand that He has given us freedom in our life and has not compelled us to perform acts.

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