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4 hours ago, IbnSina said:

My wife wears hijab so people don’t approach her like that to begin with, nor does she work with men. Also she can just wear one of the other rings I have given her on that finger if she wants to.

Women don’t approach me for marriage on the streets, nor do I work with women, so I don’t have that "problem" in my life, unfortunately.

It’s not about the workplace entirely. It’s to also show to the community that you are married. It’s a respectful thing to do for your wife. Wearing a ring wouldn’t harm you. 

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3 hours ago, Islandsandmirrors said:

It’s not about the workplace entirely. It’s to also show to the community that you are married. It’s a respectful thing to do for your wife. Wearing a ring wouldn’t harm you. 

It's just a European cultural thing, not an obligation. Wearing or not wearing a ring has nothing to do with respect, but it may be related to wanting to make a public display of the marriage in some cultures. 

I'm of mostly white European ancestry, and I reject taking my husband's name, as that was traditionally a mark of ownership, and I don't wear a diamond because diamond mining is oppressive to people and environmentally disastrous. It's just a personal choice.

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Just now, Abu Nur said:

You don't need to show it or wear it, it is just a western culture. 

How is this Western culture? 

A lot of things are Western, but regardless, people around the world nowadays wear rings when they get married (it doesn’t have to be a diamond, or even expensive.) — because it’s custom to do so. In fact, anywhere around the world, wether in Iran or in America, people would find it extremely odd if you don’t wear one in today’s time. They might think bad things about you for refusing to wear one, such as not wanting to seem “tied down” or taken. 

Just because the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) or the Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) didn’t wear rings, it doesn’t make it wrong to do so. 

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Just out of curiosity, since this is linked to the discussion now, how did the Arabs/people in the time of the Prophet show women were married?  In that time or even before, women were treated like objects (undisputed fact), so surely there was some sort of sign used to signify a woman was owned/taken by a husband? I know in some cultures the women would wear something or style their hair a certain way. 

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20 minutes ago, notme said:

It's just a European cultural thing, not an obligation. Wearing or not wearing a ring has nothing to do with respect, but it may be related to wanting to make a public display of the marriage in some cultures. 

I'm of mostly white European ancestry, and I reject taking my husband's name, as that was traditionally a mark of ownership, and I don't wear a diamond because diamond mining is oppressive to people and environmentally disastrous. It's just a personal choice.

Nowadays, not wearing a ring in majority of the world will give a false impression that you’re single or that you’re having problems with your spouse for not doing so. That’s my biggest issue. And if people think you’re single, when you’re not, well, I don’t think that’s very respectful. 

Taking your husband’s last name (which I didn’t do myself) is not always necessary, nor should people choose to wear diamond rings if they don’t want to. Not wearing a ring at all can give off a bad impression. 

@IbnSina: the Prophet (عليه السلام) didn’t wear suits to work, yet suits nowadays to meetings is a sign of professionalism. Are you not going to wear a suit also just because they didn’t?

Come up with a better argument. 

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16 hours ago, Hameedeh said:

Due to the high price of real diamonds

Did you know the price of diamonds is very clever and deceptive lie perpetuated by DeBeers?

https://archive.attn.com/stories/3016/engagement-ring-diamonds-scam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Beers

Also, a little known fact is that DeBeers (originally a British company) was the key driver in the British Empire conquering India, specifically bringing the kingdom of Hyderabad under British "control", as well as South Africa, because at the time India was the world's top mining location of not only diamonds, but also the other gemstones that people were paying money for. As such, the British then shut down the mines in Hyderabad (which coincidentally was where the Hope diamond, the Akbar Shah, the Daria-E-Noor, the Koh-I-Noor, as well as many of the other Crown Jewels of the British Royal Family were mined from). They did this to allow DeBeers to start mining diamonds from mines that were under their direct control where they could use cheap labor in South Africa. The blood diamond stories we now hear about were common practice by DeBeers in the late 1800's. Murder and kidnapping was standard practice for DeBeers.

As such, DeBeers then started this mind manipulation of lying about a diamond being rare when in actuality it is one of the most abundant items found on Earth. Its simply carbon that becomes crystallized due to seismic pressures.

https://www.gemsociety.org/article/are-diamonds-really-rare/

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18 minutes ago, Islandsandmirrors said:

How is this Western culture? 

A lot of things are Western, but regardless, people around the world nowadays wear rings when they get married (it doesn’t have to be a diamond, or even expensive.) — because it’s custom to do so. In fact, anywhere around the world, wether in Iran or in America, people would find it extremely odd if you don’t wear one in today’s time. They might think bad things about you for refusing to wear one, such as not wanting to seem “tied down” or taken. 

Just because the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) or the Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) didn’t wear rings, it doesn’t make it wrong to do so. 

I did not say it is wrong Sister. 

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2 hours ago, Islandsandmirrors said:

Nowadays, not wearing a ring in majority of the world will give a false impression that you’re single or that you’re having problems with your spouse for not doing so. That’s my biggest issue. And if people think you’re single, when you’re not, well, I don’t think that’s very respectful. 

Assuming a person's marital status is disrespectful. Why would it be anyone's business but mine and my husband's? 

If it's your preference, cultural or personal, that's perfectly fine. But it is still nothing but a choice to either wear or not wear, not an obligation. 

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To those who say that the Prophet didn’t wear a ring, so I’m not going to wear one, etc. Should also go live in some desert area, only eat dates and bread, not have a TV, not drive, not use the internet, not get a diploma (formal university), use camels as transportation, because the Prophet (عليه السلام) didn’t live with technology. 

Edited by Islandsandmirrors

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24 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

You don't need to show it or wear it, it is just a western culture. 

Agree. In Pakistan women usually wear a bangle/s(made out of gold) as a symbol of being married. Hindu women wear a long black beaded necklace so it varies from culture to culture.

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4 minutes ago, Islandsandmirrors said:

not get an education

???!

 

You mean like university diplomas, I assume, not actual education, because that's the only way this bit makes sense. 

Edited by notme

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Just now, notme said:

???!

Did the Prophet get a formal education (go to a university) like we do today? 

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1 minute ago, Islandsandmirrors said:

Did the Prophet get a formal education (go to a university) like we do today? 

Sorry. I edited after I realized you meant diplomas not education.

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1 minute ago, notme said:

Sorry. I edited after I realized you meant diplomas not education.

Yeah, I meant diplomas, not that he was uneducated. 

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15 minutes ago, realizm said:

:salam:

I do not even know. My wife probably does not either.

Anyway, she lost the ring in a train a year later and replaced it with a gift from her mother.

My ring rusted lol. People see significant on wedding rings while they should focus more on aqeeq rings first.

Edited by Abu Nur

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Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum.

I picked out the wedding ring with my dh's mother, it is a white gold triple band ring.  Something similar below.

Image result for white gold triple band ring

One day, I hope I'm strong enough against my desires to give it away.  

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah

Edited by Laayla

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1 hour ago, Laayla said:

One day, I hope I'm strong enough against my desires to give it away.  

It's very pretty. Hopefully if you give it away, the recipient will cherish the gift. 

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