How many carats was your diamond ring?

[Miss Wonderful]

Women how many carats was your diamond ring? Men how much did you spend on your wife ‘s ring and how many carats and not carrots lollll

[King]

How many carats would you like?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Miss Wonderful said:

Women how many carats was your diamond ring?

Zero.I got married without any diamonds.

OMG!! Was my marriage valid?!?!?

 

Edited February 19, 2019 by starlight

[Guest]

@Miss Wonderful Why the sad reaction?

[Miss Wonderful]

14 minutes ago, starlight said:

@Miss Wonderful Why the sad reaction?

I actually burst out laughing at “was my marriage valid” and I put in sad reaction as humour lolllllll 

[Nevsevug]

I don’t mean to dampen the mood but many diamonds are mined using slave and child labor. Try looking for synthetic diamonds. Studies also show a positive correlation between having expensive rings/weddings and divorce. I’m not really interested in diamonds or gold and I would like a cheaper/unique ring just to signify that I’m married. 

Edited February 19, 2019 by Nevsevug
Spelled slave wrong

[313_Waiter]

Get a halal snake lolly and use glue to wrap it into a ring. Or u can use tissue paper first roll it then use glue. 

If u want extra carrots first make carrot juice then soak the tissue paper then just rap into a ring.

hope this helps

[Laayla]

Yaaaaa Miss W, is he going to put a ring on it? 

[notme]

I dislike diamonds because their mining causes much misery. I guess a lab diamond might be alright, but my preference would be for other, less tainted stones. 

I don't wear a diamond ring. 

My first husband gave me one, but I gave it back when we divorced. It was nice though - a family heirloom. I don't know how many carats, but it was tastefully small and pretty. 

[Akbar673]

12 hours ago, Miss Wonderful said:

Women how many carats was your diamond ring? Men how much did you spend on your wife ‘s ring and how many carats and not carrots lollll

Not going to comment on how many carats the ring was, but the wife liked it when she saw it so I guess it was good enough...

Also, its not the size of the stone or the size of the ring that matters. Its the meaning and realization of the bond it creates that truly matters. A ring with the smallest stone can be priceless in value to the wearer if its a sign of the happiness and joy that they have found with their soulmate, while the biggest and gaudiest ring will mean nothing if happiness and love is absent from the marriage. 

[Reza]

Most people don't even know what a carat is.

[Islandsandmirrors]

0.7 carats. It’s a solitaire. I love it  because it was given to me by the person I love the most. 

[ShiaMan14]

Mistake to ask just carats. 

Cut, Clarity, Color and Carat go together in determining the price.

I opted for a .75 Carat, VS1 clarity, F color and Very good cut.

[Hameedeh]

Due to the high price of real diamonds (or refusing to have a real diamond mined by slave labor), some are opting for a lab created diamond (cz, cubic zirconia). I have heard that a 3/4 carat cz is a very believable size. A 1 carat cz is probably the popular size, but not believable if the husband could not possibly afford a real 1 carat diamond. 

[Soldiers and Saffron]

I have bought my wife rings and other jewelry but we did not exchange any rings when we got married, its not the sunnah of Rasulullah(S) nor his Ahlul Bayt(عليه السلام).

[Islandsandmirrors]

8 hours ago, IbnSina said:

I have bought my wife rings and other jewelry but we did not exchange any rings when we got married, its not the sunnah of Rasulullah(S) nor his Ahlul Bayt(عليه السلام).

How are you going to show to others you’re taken/married? 

[Ashvazdanghe]

11 hours ago, Hameedeh said:

Due to the high price of real diamonds (or refusing to have a real diamond mined by slave labor), some are opting for a lab created diamond (cz, cubic zirconia). I have heard that a 3/4 carat cz is a very believable size. A 1 carat cz is probably the popular size, but not believable if the husband could not possibly afford a real 1 carat diamond. 

Salam also diamond market is under dominance of Jews that have strong ties with zionists & Israel so there can be possibility that with buying diamond from them we help Israel & Zionists undirectly

8 hours ago, IbnSina said:

I have bought my wife rings and other jewelry but we did not exchange any rings when we got married, its not the sunnah of Rasulullah(S) nor his Ahlul Bayt(عليه السلام).

[Soldiers and Saffron]

2 hours ago, Islandsandmirrors said:

How are you going to show to others you’re taken/married? 

My wife wears hijab so people don’t approach her like that to begin with, nor does she work with men. Also she can just wear one of the other rings I have given her on that finger if she wants to.

Women don’t approach me for marriage on the streets, nor do I work with women, so I don’t have that "problem" in my life, unfortunately.

[Guest Umm Amira]

I would rather have a yummy carrot cake instead. 

[Fakeha]

4 hours ago, IbnSina said:

Women don’t approach me for marriage on the streets, nor do I work with women, so I don’t have that "problem" in my life, unfortunately.

Justified 

[Islandsandmirrors]

4 hours ago, IbnSina said:

My wife wears hijab so people don’t approach her like that to begin with, nor does she work with men. Also she can just wear one of the other rings I have given her on that finger if she wants to.

Women don’t approach me for marriage on the streets, nor do I work with women, so I don’t have that "problem" in my life, unfortunately.

It’s not about the workplace entirely. It’s to also show to the community that you are married. It’s a respectful thing to do for your wife. Wearing a ring wouldn’t harm you. 

[notme]

3 hours ago, Islandsandmirrors said:

It’s not about the workplace entirely. It’s to also show to the community that you are married. It’s a respectful thing to do for your wife. Wearing a ring wouldn’t harm you. 

It's just a European cultural thing, not an obligation. Wearing or not wearing a ring has nothing to do with respect, but it may be related to wanting to make a public display of the marriage in some cultures. 

I'm of mostly white European ancestry, and I reject taking my husband's name, as that was traditionally a mark of ownership, and I don't wear a diamond because diamond mining is oppressive to people and environmentally disastrous. It's just a personal choice.

[Abu Nur]

10 hours ago, Islandsandmirrors said:

How are you going to show to others you’re taken/married? 

You don't need to show it or wear it, it is just a western culture. 

[Islandsandmirrors]

Just now, Abu Nur said:

You don't need to show it or wear it, it is just a western culture. 

How is this Western culture? 

A lot of things are Western, but regardless, people around the world nowadays wear rings when they get married (it doesn’t have to be a diamond, or even expensive.) — because it’s custom to do so. In fact, anywhere around the world, wether in Iran or in America, people would find it extremely odd if you don’t wear one in today’s time. They might think bad things about you for refusing to wear one, such as not wanting to seem “tied down” or taken. 

Just because the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) or the Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) didn’t wear rings, it doesn’t make it wrong to do so. 

[2Timeless]

Just out of curiosity, since this is linked to the discussion now, how did the Arabs/people in the time of the Prophet show women were married?  In that time or even before, women were treated like objects (undisputed fact), so surely there was some sort of sign used to signify a woman was owned/taken by a husband? I know in some cultures the women would wear something or style their hair a certain way. 

[Islandsandmirrors]

20 minutes ago, notme said:

It's just a European cultural thing, not an obligation. Wearing or not wearing a ring has nothing to do with respect, but it may be related to wanting to make a public display of the marriage in some cultures. 

I'm of mostly white European ancestry, and I reject taking my husband's name, as that was traditionally a mark of ownership, and I don't wear a diamond because diamond mining is oppressive to people and environmentally disastrous. It's just a personal choice.

Nowadays, not wearing a ring in majority of the world will give a false impression that you’re single or that you’re having problems with your spouse for not doing so. That’s my biggest issue. And if people think you’re single, when you’re not, well, I don’t think that’s very respectful. 

Taking your husband’s last name (which I didn’t do myself) is not always necessary, nor should people choose to wear diamond rings if they don’t want to. Not wearing a ring at all can give off a bad impression. 

@IbnSina: the Prophet (عليه السلام) didn’t wear suits to work, yet suits nowadays to meetings is a sign of professionalism. Are you not going to wear a suit also just because they didn’t?

Come up with a better argument. 

[Akbar673]

16 hours ago, Hameedeh said:

Due to the high price of real diamonds

Did you know the price of diamonds is very clever and deceptive lie perpetuated by DeBeers?

https://archive.attn.com/stories/3016/engagement-ring-diamonds-scam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Beers

Also, a little known fact is that DeBeers (originally a British company) was the key driver in the British Empire conquering India, specifically bringing the kingdom of Hyderabad under British "control", as well as South Africa, because at the time India was the world's top mining location of not only diamonds, but also the other gemstones that people were paying money for. As such, the British then shut down the mines in Hyderabad (which coincidentally was where the Hope diamond, the Akbar Shah, the Daria-E-Noor, the Koh-I-Noor, as well as many of the other Crown Jewels of the British Royal Family were mined from). They did this to allow DeBeers to start mining diamonds from mines that were under their direct control where they could use cheap labor in South Africa. The blood diamond stories we now hear about were common practice by DeBeers in the late 1800's. Murder and kidnapping was standard practice for DeBeers.

As such, DeBeers then started this mind manipulation of lying about a diamond being rare when in actuality it is one of the most abundant items found on Earth. Its simply carbon that becomes crystallized due to seismic pressures.

https://www.gemsociety.org/article/are-diamonds-really-rare/

[Abu Nur]

18 minutes ago, Islandsandmirrors said:

How is this Western culture? 

A lot of things are Western, but regardless, people around the world nowadays wear rings when they get married (it doesn’t have to be a diamond, or even expensive.) — because it’s custom to do so. In fact, anywhere around the world, wether in Iran or in America, people would find it extremely odd if you don’t wear one in today’s time. They might think bad things about you for refusing to wear one, such as not wanting to seem “tied down” or taken. 

Just because the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) or the Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) didn’t wear rings, it doesn’t make it wrong to do so. 

I did not say it is wrong Sister. 

[notme]

2 hours ago, Islandsandmirrors said:

Nowadays, not wearing a ring in majority of the world will give a false impression that you’re single or that you’re having problems with your spouse for not doing so. That’s my biggest issue. And if people think you’re single, when you’re not, well, I don’t think that’s very respectful. 

Assuming a person's marital status is disrespectful. Why would it be anyone's business but mine and my husband's? 

If it's your preference, cultural or personal, that's perfectly fine. But it is still nothing but a choice to either wear or not wear, not an obligation. 

[Islandsandmirrors]

To those who say that the Prophet didn’t wear a ring, so I’m not going to wear one, etc. Should also go live in some desert area, only eat dates and bread, not have a TV, not drive, not use the internet, not get a diploma (formal university), use camels as transportation, because the Prophet (عليه السلام) didn’t live with technology. 

Edited February 21, 2019 by Islandsandmirrors

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

You don't need to show it or wear it, it is just a western culture. 

Agree. In Pakistan women usually wear a bangle/s(made out of gold) as a symbol of being married. Hindu women wear a long black beaded necklace so it varies from culture to culture.

[notme]

4 minutes ago, Islandsandmirrors said:

not get an education

???!

 

You mean like university diplomas, I assume, not actual education, because that's the only way this bit makes sense. 

Edited February 21, 2019 by notme

[Islandsandmirrors]

Just now, notme said:

???!

Did the Prophet get a formal education (go to a university) like we do today? 

[notme]

1 minute ago, Islandsandmirrors said:

Did the Prophet get a formal education (go to a university) like we do today? 

Sorry. I edited after I realized you meant diplomas not education.

[Islandsandmirrors]

1 minute ago, notme said:

Sorry. I edited after I realized you meant diplomas not education.

Yeah, I meant diplomas, not that he was uneducated.