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Nature of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)

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30 minutes ago, islam25 said:

Yes.

So you agree that we are not a fully manifestation of Allah rather we are a manifestation of His attributes in a way that is not greater then Him, and Allah is near/close to everything in every way  possible without being inside it, from the smallest particles that the eyes cannot grasp to the largest things that the eye can see,from within and out of it. And that Allah is the Lord of all His creation and everything, and we partially rely on Him, and we are not part of Him. 

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2 hours ago, Anonymous2144 said:

So you agree that we are not a fully manifestation of Allah rather we are a manifestation of His attributes in a way that is not greater then Him, and Allah is near/close to everything in every way  possible without being inside it, from the smallest particles that the eyes cannot grasp to the largest things that the eye can see,from within and out of it. And that Allah is the Lord of all His creation and everything, and we partially rely on Him, and we are not part of Him. 

Allah is clser by being inside and outside 'before and after .Hideen and manifest.

Because everything is appearance whose reality is Allah.

Imam Ali as I don't any thing but Allah before it, into it and after it.

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17 minutes ago, islam25 said:

Allah is clser by being inside and outside 'before and after .Hideen and manifest.

Because everything is appearance whose reality is Allah.

Imam Ali as I don't any thing but Allah before it, into it and after it.

You mean Allah is closer to the thing’s particles and close to it and close to what’s after it(behind it), all at the same time?Correct ? 

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5 hours ago, Anonymous2144 said:

Allah’s Essence and Attributes are one

 

4 hours ago, Anonymous2144 said:

we cannot Be a literal manifestation of Him fully nor Like Him but we are a manifestation of His attributes.

 

Can you explain as to why there is difference in the above two highlighted statements?

At one place you were saying Allah's essence & attributes are one while at other place you are mentioning them as they are something other than Him. 

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13 minutes ago, Anonymous2144 said:

You mean Allah is closer to the thing’s particles and close to it and close to what’s after it(behind it), all at the same time?Correct ? 

Mr. things all are just appearce but what really  is  that isAllah 

How close is wave to the Ocean.

How close is soul to us.

Mohammed Hussain Tabtabie "Soul of souls is Allah" .

 

 

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Sermon 65:
Praise be to Allah for Whom one condition does not proceed another so that He may be the First before being the Last or He may be Manifest before being Hidden. Everyone called one (alone) save Him is by virtue of being small (in number); and everyone enjoying honor other than Him is humble. Every powerful person other than Him is weak. Every master (owner) other than Him is slave (owned). 
 

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Sermon 49:  
Praise be to Allah Who lies inside all hidden things, and towards Whom all open things guide. He cannot be seen by the eye of an onlooker, but the eye which does not see Him cannot deny Him while the mind that proves His existence cannot perceive Him. He is so high in sublimity that nothing can be more sublime than He, while in nearness, He is so near that no one can be nearer than He. But his sublimity does not put Him at a distance from anything of His creation, nor does His nearness bring them on equal level to Him. He has not informed (human) wit about the limits of His qualities. Nevertheless, He has not prevented it from securing essential knowledge of Him. So he is such that all signs of existence stand witness for Him till the denying mind also believes in Him. Allah is sublime beyond what is described by those who liken Him to things or those who deny Him. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Salsabeel said:

 

Can you explain as to why there is difference in the above two highlighted statements?

At one place you were saying Allah's essence & attributes are one while at other place you are mentioning them as they are something other than Him. 

If we are a manifestation of Allah’s full Essence and Attributes then we are God ourselves, that’s shirk Allah has no limbs and limitations His for greater then His creation. 

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2 minutes ago, Anonymous2144 said:

If we are a manifestation of Allah’s full Essence and Attributes then we are God ourselves

So which one of the following is correct statement:

1. Allah’s Essence and Attributes are one
2. we cannot Be a literal manifestation of Him fully nor Like Him but we are a manifestation of His attributes.

 

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4 minutes ago, Salsabeel said:

So which one of the following is correct statement:

1. Allah’s Essence and Attributes are one
2. we cannot Be a literal manifestation of Him fully nor Like Him but we are a manifestation of His attributes.

 

We believe in the unity of Allah so it’s 1 but also 2

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3 minutes ago, Anonymous2144 said:

I don’t understand that because of the typo

لَمْ يُطْلِعِ الْعُقُولَ عَلَى تَحْدِيدِ صِفَتِهِ

He has not informed (human) with about the limits of His qualities. 

 

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1 minute ago, Salsabeel said:

لَمْ يُطْلِعِ الْعُقُولَ عَلَى تَحْدِيدِ صِفَتِهِ

He has not informed (human) with about the limits of His qualities. 

 

So we are not aware of the limits of His attributes? Correct?

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16 minutes ago, Salsabeel said:

Everyone called one (alone) save Him is by virtue of being small (in number); and everyone enjoying honor other than Him is humble.

I didn’t quiet understand that ? 

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6 minutes ago, Anonymous2144 said:

I didn’t quiet understand that ? 

As per the words of Ma'soom:

There is nothing except that it perishes, or changes, or there enters into it the change and the decline, or transfers from a colour to a colour, and from a form to a form, and from an attribute to an attribute, and from an increase to a decrease, and from a decrease to an increase, except for the Lord of the worlds. So He has never ceased to be or will cease to be in one state. He was first before everything and He would be Last for as long as eternity.

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1 minute ago, Salsabeel said:

As per the words of Ma'soom:

There is nothing except that it perishes, or changes, or there enters into it the change and the decline, or transfers from a colour to a colour, and from a form to a form, and from an attribute to an attribute, and from an increase to a decrease, and from a decrease to an increase, except for the Lord of the worlds. So He has never ceased to be or will cease to be in one state. He was first before everything and He would be Last for as long as eternity.

I’ve read that Hadith before, now I understand. 

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