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Nature of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)

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5 minutes ago, Anonymous2144 said:

So,now you agree with me that Allah is no manifest but his Attributes are, right?

Why should a agree you.Because it is it's attributes by which things manifest.

And in Qur'an Allah clearly says that He is manifest.

Imams clearly says it is only Allah who is manifest.

Our scholars say what ever exists is manifestation of Allah.

Why should I agree you.

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10 minutes ago, islam25 said:

Why should a agree you.Because it is it's attributes by which things manifest.

And in Qur'an Allah clearly says that He is manifest.

Imams clearly says it is only Allah who is manifest.

Our scholars say what ever exists is manifestation of Allah.

Why should I agree you.

Yes he is manifest but maybe there’s a meaning Behind it. 

Imam Ali a.s says “My lord is near to all things without physically touching them”

”He is distant from them without being separate”

”He is manifest but not physically” 

“He has made Himself evident but without allowing direct vision” 

“He is seperated but not through distance”

“He is close but without sacrificing His exaltedness”

“He is within all things” (this part I have trouble understanding) 

“Without being merged with them and also without being separated from them”

“attributes do not define Him with due respect”

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1 minute ago, Anonymous2144 said:

What is your understanding of Allah being manifest?

It is Qur'an says Allah is manifest.

Not going too deep.

That means that ever we see that represent Allah 

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2 minutes ago, islam25 said:

It is Qur'an says Allah is manifest.

Not going too deep.

That means that ever we see that represent Allah 

How can our poop by representative of Allah.... unless it represents Allah’s wrath...

Imam Ali a.s says “He is manifest but not physically” 

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2 minutes ago, Anonymous2144 said:

@islam25 the Hadith that you mentioned about Imam Ali a.s saying “I see Allah next to it, in it and after it” could Imam Ali a.s mean that he saw Allah’s glory within that thing that he saw. And knew that Allah is next to it and after it was gone Allah is with him and with it??

Imam didn't used word Glory.

So what Imam said We can't change it

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24 minutes ago, Anonymous2144 said:

How can our poop by representative of Allah.... unless it represents Allah’s wrath...

Imam Ali a.s says “He is manifest but not physically” 

Mr.

Allah clearly says He's is manifest.why should I deny or try to change it .

Even when mujahid like Imam Khomeini ra and other's are of same view why should I deny it.

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43 minutes ago, Anonymous2144 said:

What is your understanding of Allah being manifest?

What Manifest is His (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) Actions, Signs, Will, Attributes but not His Essence. God is Pure Existence and there is no definition for Existence. And we have the same Existence.

Edited by Abu Nur

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10 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

What Manifest is His (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) Actions, Signs, Will, Attributes but not His Essence. God is Pure Existence and there is no definition for Existence. 

So you agree that Allah is not manifest but his attributes is manifest, and not everything is manifestation of Allah but a manifestation of Allah’s attributes..?

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1 minute ago, Anonymous2144 said:

So you agree that Allah is not manifest but his attributes is manifest, and not everything is manifestation of Allah but a manifestation of Allah’s attributes..?

Not His Essence, because only He knows It. Whatever Manifest can be understood by Intellect. So when I see power in front of me, it is God who is Most Powerful and it is He who make the power happen, so such a power Manifest His Power.

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12 minutes ago, Anonymous2144 said:

@Abu Nur @islam25

watch this video here, it’s not long and it explains what I’m trying to say. Abu Nur I agree witth what you said, but Islam25 says otherwise. 

 

Allah' has described His Tawheed at different levels in Qur'an.

Again if you say all things are attributes of Allah.Abe that is true.

But we know that attributes of Allah is not separate from essence.Rathher attributes and essence of Allah is same.

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