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i'm very sorry if this has been asked before but i really need help. 

i started wearing hijab when i was 8 bc my mom told me the old lollipop analogy and i was too young to reason w it. did i understand hijab and why i was wearing it? no. now, 10 years later, i am still looking for answers. everytime i ask my mom she keeps using analogies like if you have a diamond you should hide it away so you can protect it??? or she would say im not a man so I don't know how men think? but i find that that contradicts with the fact that Allah is fair because now i am being held accountable for how men think which is obv not my fault. i also cannot find solid proof that hijab is wajib. i know the women in the rasool's family peace be upon him and them wore it but they also went for jihad and did all these things that we don't do anymore like freeing slaves. i know that we should look up to them and try to live like them but i feel that a lot of things from their lives should be considered alongside the context and the life they lived at the time. i am rly lost and i need to find an answer please help me.

ps my mom says i follow sistani bc i wore hijab at 8 and bc her and my dad follow him so i inherently follow him apparently but i never rly made a conscience decision to follow him nor did i know who he was when i started wearing the hijab so I don't know. i'm starting to question the whole marja thing bc rly they all say different things depending on their understanding and interpertation of Islam and i don’t really know who i agree with or if i agree with any of them at all. 

please don't comment things like sister go repent bc all i want is guidance.

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6 hours ago, dragonxx said:

well it seems your problem is exactly that, your idea of "guidance".

based off what you described, you have always relied on your mother to explain things to you, now you are saying you are old enough to think for yourself and yet you are still relying on others to provide you with impossible answers. 

so my suggestion is to review the fundamentals of your religion for yourself, and (much later) once you reach issues of hijab and taqleed, come back with specific questions and your 'proofs' of "why hijab isn't wajib", because your post implies that you are coming to conclusions purely off emotions, and any honest person knows decisions based on emotions are not grounded in logic and/or reasonable deduction.

Step up and act like the adult you are claiming to be.

I am not saying one does not need any guidance and shouldn't seek out answers, as Imam al-Sadiq (a.s) said (paraphrasing), 'when one of you decide to travel you find a guide and directions even if its a few miles, yet your ignorance of the paths of the heavens is much more than your ignorance of the paths of the Earth. You must find a guide for yourself'.

So I'm directing you to search for your guide, and come back with the right questions rather than "prove to me hijab and taqleed" because guaranteed no matter how great an answer anyone provides, you won't agree, because you're basic knowledge isn't there to understand such answers meaning you will rely on your emotions/personal experiences. 

So go forth in your quest for knowledge and guidance. Indeed, it will be a struggle. Hope I wasn't too stern and I do sincerely hope the best for you in your quest.

I have looked for answers all over the internet, so please don’t make assumptions. As a young Muslim woman I would obviously look up to my mom for guidance, see her point of view and what she believes in, and as much as I tried to be convinced with her explanations I was not. I asked other family members and my other Shia friends who wear hijab but none of them really knew why they were wearing the hijab and what was the point of it. Therefore, I came here.

Your reply basically says I have no idea why women wear hijab so i’m going to attack you, treat you like you’re immature and know nothing, and put all the blame on you for even asking a question and for trying to understand why you do something instead of following it blindly. 

You’re implying it’s so easy to go do research and find the answer waiting for you to read it. Well it isn’t, like you said it’s “Impossible answers”. You tell me i’m asking a wrong question which you have no right to say. Did the rasool peace be upon him and his family ever make someone feel bad for asking a question? No. So what makes you think you can do that? 

And when did I get emotional? All I ever stated is my thoughts that have been lingering in my head for years and as much as I want to shut them down and blindly believe I can’t. That’s not how the human brain works. 

As for the Hadith you mentioned, how is it related to this topic? Do you have a verse of the Qur'an that I missed that says women who don’t wear Hijab will burn in hell? How is this related to ignorance when ignorance is doing something blindly without knowing why or what you’re doing?

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21 hours ago, Ralvi said:

Hello sister

i understand your concern, you want an exact answer but that’s not really realistic

there are many reasons for hijab. One is that Allah requires it, therefore it’s a bridge for a woman and her creator. It’s a special symbol of Islam. Women in Hijab are symbols of Islam. The VEIL is the symbol for Islam. You do it to please Allah, and to be pleased with him. He takes care of you everyday, so hijab in that manner becomes a source of energy for you to keep striving in your religion. Which Allah recognizes dear sister 

Also another big reason is because of the events of Karbala. All the women were stripped of their hijab. That is a source of calamity and sadness for the holy ahulbayt. It’s said that if Imam Mehdi finds a Shi’a woman without her hijab, he cries. He cries out of grief for what happened in Karbala. All their dignity and honor snatched away, why wouldn’t a woman want to wear hijab then...it’s a source of sadness for our Imam.

another is for the betterment for society. I genuinely believe change in this world emanates from our women. And if our women are women of honor and faith then they are not showcasing their beauty to strangers. Hijab is what separates Muslims from the rest of the world

a woman needs to realize her power. She is the symbol of Islam 

may it be a source of ease and betterment for you. Be thankful your mother, she realized you were strong, and you were! Wearing hijab since 8! Mashallah. Let it be easy for you and not a source of doubt. It’s your safeguard sister, though you may not realize 

Salam sisters 

Thank you for taking the time reply. 

What is the proof that Allah requires hijab? It has never been mentioned explicitly in the Qur'an. Modesty is one of the symbols of Islam, but it has never been to my knowledge specifically referred to women covering their heads. 

My understanding is that in Karbala the women in the rasool’s family peace be upon him and them were forced to take off their niqab exposing their faces, but they did not take off their hijab thus their hair and neck were still covered. And this was significant because only slaves at the time exposed their faces and  they were treated like slaves which made this an even bigger atrocity. But just because they covered their hair doesn’t mean it is wajib (obligatory). For example, they also prayed all these mustahab prayers alongside the wajib prayers, but these didn’t become wajib for us just because they prayed them. Also, the context in this  is related to slavery or jawary which is not present in today’s world. 

20 hours ago, 2Timeless said:

Firstly, ignore the insensitive haters sister. Don't take everyone's words to heart. Some people simply don't understand the struggle of a hijabi woman living in the west. But that also means we get more thawab for the greater jihad we go through day in day out of our lives. To those keyboard warriors, first think about the struggle of being a walking flag of Islam and being judged and even abused for it in a foreign country that alienates you. If you don't know what that's like and you have nothing useful to offer, don't comment.

As for the OP, it's normal to question things. You're not a robot. You want to know what you believe in, and you want to know why. Too often people shame for others for that, which is wrong. I understand where you're coming from about the taqleed thing. Marjas aren't infallible, and I know what I'm going to say will anger some, but some of their fatwas are just... they allow for abuse and things I know are completely unislamic. That's a whole other debate to go into. But those fatwas are about more particular topics, not a more generic and widely agreed concept. 

I don't know the exact reason for hijab Islamically. Young girls are told things about hiding their beauty, etc ,things similar to what you mentioned.  One way I like to think of it is, I wont let myself become objectified by men or by my society. I don't care what everyone else says, I'm going to wear the clothes I want and I'm still going to be powerful and independent. Having a more resilient  view might give you more determination and love for the hijab. There's no doubt about it being wajib. Marjas have, at the end of the day, dedicated their life to fiqh, and they all agree (as far as I know) that hijab is compulsory from  a certain age. So even if you studied Islam and became your own marja  you'd probably come up with the same ruling yourself. If you want to reconsider all taqleed because of the hijab fatwa, I don't recommend it. This is just Islam and it doesn't have much to do with the marjas.

To be honest, and sadly, the truth is most (if not all) of the Muslim societies are corrupt. If you go to a Muslim country, you find men harassing women who are wearing modest clothes and have their hair covered and not wearing make up  (happened to me so I would know) but when you go to the west, no one does that, and if they do, they’re always condemned. So really, my hijab doesn’t do anything to benefit society because a lot of men will act the way they want to act. Wearing hijab will not stop them objectifying women. I don’t feel strong or powerful wearing the hijab I feel weak and vulnerable that I need a piece of fabric to protect me. And as for honour, i think that women are honourable regardless of them wearing the hijab or not.

I don’t really know if I trust marjas. There are many new ones nowadays that say hijab is not in fact obligatory. They all in some ways contradict each other. Fiqh is really to some extent subjective. What hadiths do you believe and which ones do you reject? Will you burn in hell for having a certain logic or opinion that turns out to be wrong? I don’t know. We know that Allah is the Most Merciful but at the same time fair so would you be punished for your opinion? I don’t know. 

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18 hours ago, Nevsevug said:

Please think twice before posting in this manner. If this is how we respond how will anyone ever get their doubts answered? How will anyone’s problems be addressed? She hasn’t said she stopped doing either of those things. If our youth cannot question our institutions, how will they understanding any of them, and become able to better follow them? You can’t follow things blindly. 

I am not educated enough myself on the topic of Taqleed so I will refrain from adding unnecessary comments to it. Other members have given better answers than I could. For hijab however, I can try and explain to you what makes sense to me about it. I have worn hijab since I was 10 and I have gone through troubling times with it. I’ve had children try to rip it off in grade school, people tell me I’m ugly for it, question if I’m a t-word and so much more. It was very worrisome when I was a child and it often hurt and I didn’t want to be different or noticed by anyone. I didn’t understand why I did it either. Thankfully I grew up to understand a lot more about my religion and what modesty really means. Sure, modesty is about concealing ourselves from the eyes of strange men, but I don’t believe hijab is all that. Hijab is so much more. Hijab is in our manner of speech, our gait, our garments, our thoughts, our entire being. Hijab is something intimate between God and a woman. It serves as a constant reminder of how we must behave. It reminds us that God is always near and always watching. It reminds us to be modest and kind and always do good to ourselves and those around us. Hijab isn’t all about men. Hijab is for us to better ourselves. I hope this helps. May Allah help you and give you strength to combat these doubts. 

Salam sister 

thank you for taking the time to reply. 

I admire your paitience and your strong iman. It truly is beautiful. 

I guess my concern is, how do you know that it is something intimate between God and a woman? To me it is just a label, a tag, in the western world and in the Muslim world it’s just a reminder that men are superior to women and that your hair and your body is something you should be ashamed of, that if you do choose to not cover up then  men have the right to harass you because you’re not honourable and you’re a shame to your family. 

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@Laayla I like how you remained strong mashallah. It's alright how you're concerned about the OP's views regarding taqleed. Let's inshallah always come up with rational arguments when we're concerned for the youth, and leave the rest to Allah. It's not our job to guide people, we only warn them.

But yeah, it's good how you were careful with your words.

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23 hours ago, Guest maryam said:

i'm very sorry if this has been asked before but i really need help. 

i started wearing hijab when i was 8 bc my mom told me the old lollipop analogy and i was too young to reason w it. did i understand hijab and why i was wearing it? no. now, 10 years later, i am still looking for answers. everytime i ask my mom she keeps using analogies like if you have a diamond you should hide it away so you can protect it??? or she would say im not a man so I don't know how men think? but i find that that contradicts with the fact that Allah is fair because now i am being held accountable for how men think which is obv not my fault. i also cannot find solid proof that hijab is wajib. i know the women in the rasool's family peace be upon him and them wore it but they also went for jihad and did all these things that we don't do anymore like freeing slaves. i know that we should look up to them and try to live like them but i feel that a lot of things from their lives should be considered alongside the context and the life they lived at the time. i am rly lost and i need to find an answer please help me.

ps my mom says i follow sistani bc i wore hijab at 8 and bc her and my dad follow him so i inherently follow him apparently but i never rly made a conscience decision to follow him nor did i know who he was when i started wearing the hijab so I don't know. i'm starting to question the whole marja thing bc rly they all say different things depending on their understanding and interpertation of Islam and i don’t really know who i agree with or if i agree with any of them at all. 

please don't comment things like sister go repent bc all i want is guidance.

Salam dear sister. Allah has ordered Hijab for women to leverage their status and to make them covered (because women have a great divine quality - Haya/Chastity/Modesty).

Allah has made women beautiful and has asked them to keep their beauty hidden from everyone except their husbands. 

Hijab makes your pure. When you remove your hijab, you only remain an object which satisfies wild lustful eyes of men who are preying on women.

Dear, Islam came for people right from 7th century to QIyamah. Its not like Hijab was a timely thing. No. The laws of Islam applies in the same way as it was applied to the family of the Prophet (saws).

Please Sister, don't loose your Haya and protect yourself from wild animals out there. May Allah protect you.

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8 hours ago, Laayla said:

Bismehe Ta3ala 

Sister Maryam, Assalam Alikum 

Why is showing your hair and skin make you feel liberated?  I don't understand.  What are you missing out as a covered woman?

How am I exactly free and treated with respect, if I show my body parts to non mahram men?  What are you being restricted from when you are a hijabi?

Brother @ali_fatheroforphans

Mash'Allah, brother throughout your time here in ShiaChat, you maintain respect and courtesy.  You are applying Quranic verses in your responses, so beautiful and effective, thank you.  God protect you from all harm.

As you can see there is passive aggression taking place with some of the responses.  If I was younger and naive, you can see how that would make someone start doubting their faith because of the negative reactions.  Alhamd'Allah, this is just proof that holding on to your faith is like holding a burning coal in your hand.  By God, they will be answerable to Allah.  All Glory to Him.

If only our youth would understand how the enemy works and want to destroy our religion.  More awareness needs to be furnished about the soft war taking place.  The goal is to hate Rasoul Allah and to leave the religion.

M3 Salamah, Fe Amin Allah 

W.salam

first of all I didn’t say anything about liberation. All the things you mentioned are not relevant to my question. Second of all, men who want to objectify women will do it regardless of what women are wearing, and if they do that then it really is on them. How am I responsible for their actions or their thoughts? And honestly you calling me naive is not very Islamic of you. 

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "He who believes in Allah and the Last Day, let him show hospitality to his guest; and he who believes in Allah and the Last Day, let him maintain good relation with kins; and he who believes in Allah and the Last Day, let him speak good or remain silent.

You talk about awareness well that’s exactly what i’m asking for right here on this website. 

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Salam 

Im sorry. Posting here was a mistake. People will call me ignorant and naive and hold me accountable for the actions and thoughts of men. Thank you for everyone who replied and i will continue looking for answers and inshallah I will find an answer one day and  post it here  for other Muslim women to see and understand their faith instead of shaming them for having questions and congratulating the people who shame them. 

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ya On Wednesday we wear Hijab 

https://m.facebook.com/OnWednesdayweWearHijab/

Gemstones in Islam; signs of a shi’a ; Hijab & Beards -Maulana Syed Rizvi 

 

From Judaism to Islam -wearing Hijab -Layla Hussein & Zahra Al-Alawi

Reborn - Hijab for Day Led to Embracing Islam 

Jewish women wearing veil

Burka Niqab Jewish Veiling

These Jewish women are saving men from sins 

 Rare footage of Taliban -jewish women

Lev Tahir member defends the Jewish sect 

Why some Jewish women are rejecting the Headscarf

 

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8 hours ago, ali_fatheroforphans said:

Yeah obviously, do you expect people to walk blindfolded or something?

We can only come up with our own reasoning, it doesn't mean that this is the actual reason why Allah made hijab compulsory. Allah knows the best.

Well if men can’t lower their gaze maybe they should be wearing blind folds 

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6 hours ago, Guest Maryam said:

Salam 

Im sorry. Posting here was a mistake. People will call me ignorant and naive and hold me accountable for the actions and thoughts of men. Thank you for everyone who replied and i will continue looking for answers and inshallah I will find an answer one day and  post it here  for other Muslim women to see and understand their faith instead of shaming them for having questions and congratulating the people who shame them. 

Bismehe Ta3ala,

Wa 3la al mo2mineen as salam

You left because you were caught as a bot.  You are incapable of answering @Abu Hadi's questions.   Hajj gave you clear cut answers and direct questions, but your programming is incapable of responding.  Report to your intelligence agency to write a better program and to read better, because no where did I address you as ignorant or naive.   

Bots don't need to wear hijab.  :D

Move along :keeporder:

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah

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11 hours ago, Guest Maryam said:

To be honest, and sadly, the truth is most (if not all) of the Muslim societies are corrupt. If you go to a Muslim country, you find men harassing women who are wearing modest clothes and have their hair covered and not wearing make up  (happened to me so I would know) but when you go to the west, no one does that, and if they do, they’re always condemned. So really, my hijab doesn’t do anything to benefit society because a lot of men will act the way they want to act. Wearing hijab will not stop them objectifying women. I don’t feel strong or powerful wearing the hijab I feel weak and vulnerable that I need a piece of fabric to protect me. And as for honour, i think that women are honourable regardless of them wearing the hijab or not.

Corrupt societies exist in every culture and religion. I understand what you've gone through though, it can be very frustrating. I often think the same things, about exactly where Allah commanded us to wear the hijab etc... And I'm always confronted with the same reply: where did Allah command us to pray 5 times a day and in the manner we do? This is a valid argument. I know it's hard to accept, but sometimes we don't get the answers to our questions. If it's such a widely practiced phenomena and I've tried my hardest to find an alternative that I genuinely believe Allah approves of, then I need to trust that this is the right path. In this case, it's hijab. 

11 hours ago, Guest Maryam said:

don’t really know if I trust marjas. There are many new ones nowadays that say hijab is not in fact obligatory. They all in some ways contradict each other. Fiqh is really to some extent subjective. What hadiths do you believe and which ones do you reject? Will you burn in hell for having a certain logic or opinion that turns out to be wrong? I don’t know. We know that Allah is the Most Merciful but at the same time fair so would you be punished for your opinion? I don’t know. 

Could you give the name of the ones who say hijab isn't obligatory? I haven't heard of that before. Hijab is generally universally agreed upon. Some women choose not to wear it, and I respect their reasons, whatever they are. But Islamically, I don't think anyone can deny that hijab is obligatory. I've never come across a religious ruling that denies that. So, yes, there might be some subjectivity, but the topic of hijab is quite objective and there isn't much room to be subjective about it in terms of Islamic rulings. 

I don't know much about fiqh, this is just my take on the matter.

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1 minute ago, ali_fatheroforphans said:

Inshallah sister, I meant some people have a habit of staring, it's not equivalent of checking a girl out. Therefore yes, even a woman in an abaya can be stared at imo.

Most people are  uncomfortable with staring and it is debatable whether staring can be seen as checking out or not

 

On 1/14/2019 at 4:47 PM, Sisterfatima1 said:

if your in the west men will still check you out even in hijab 

^ Sad but true, some people can be really disgusting. No cloth ever will deter them, it really is a spiritual disease of the heart.

On 1/14/2019 at 4:47 PM, Sisterfatima1 said:

nobody can force it upon on you 

Except Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) but it's up to us to obey Him. He does decide our fate through our actions though, from what I understand.

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You should see the Hijabs being designed in Chechnya. I don’t know if Chechnyan women got bored with always wearing the depressing monotony of black but those hijabs, don’t make a mistake they are hijabs one hundred percent or whatever you call the full women heat to toe dress code but the ones made in chechnya were made for the red carpet. Those women are covered 100% yet look as hot as Rihanna with her natural assets exposed for the world to see. Im sure any woman or women will look for an excuse everyday to go out of the house and do something just to show the world how hot she looks in those special designer hijabs.

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1 hour ago, ali_fatheroforphans said:

Inshallah sister, I meant some people have a habit of staring, it's not equivalent of checking a girl out. Therefore yes, even a woman in an abaya can be stared at imo.

Come to Bankstown lakemba Liverpool auburn being a revert in hijab and Abaya see how many Arab men will stare at you and beg you to marry them 

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Hijab is compulsory my sister, their head and necks were NOT covered. I don’t know which history you were taught, but their hijabs and Pardas were SNATCHED away by Yazeeds army! And burned! Their heads exposed! This calamity should not be lessened nor made to be a small deal. Our Imam cries for God sake when he sees a sister exposed! 

My sister (and I’m not trying to be mean just straight up real with you) why are so desperate to make hijab not compulsory and not as important as it it? What makes you think this way? And when did you start feeling this way? Rather than find meaning in wanted to connect with Allah? 

I just want to know your intention...

is it truly curiosity or are you searching for a convenient excuse to not wear hijab and therefore feel (unjustly) secure in your decision? 

like previous members have mentioned you need to truly do some soul searching. 

Hijab is compulsory. All of our Imams wives, sister, daughters wore hijab and even moreso. Sayeda Fatima Zehra (عليه السلام) was always covered, ALWAYS. That makes it compulsory all on it’s own.

wajib is wajib because we knows whats wajib, we were taught what’s wajib. Obligatory acts are obligatory because we are taught that. There’s no room for confusion 

iam just being real. You’re free to do whatever you want and nobody can force you. Really it’s your own decision. Some of my family members don’t cover. I don’t say anything. But if they start to want to make it as not obligatory, trust me I would not stay quiet. 

but Hijab is compulsory and it is the marking of Islam. It is in the Qur'an. 

Just like the Kaaba became the symbol of Islam when it was covered with that black covering

Nobody can come to the conclusion who will burn in hell for what. Only Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) declares that. We can’t make such conclusions. But we know Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) decree. And his employees(Muhammed and Ahl Muhammed(SAAWS) ) clearly has a certain etiquette with dress, therefore it’s something we have to adhere too) 

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On 1/15/2019 at 5:27 PM, Gabenowa said:

You should see the Hijabs being designed in Chechnya. I don’t know if Chechnyan women got bored with always wearing the depressing monotony of black but those hijabs, don’t make a mistake they are hijabs one hundred percent or whatever you call the full women heat to toe dress code but the ones made in chechnya were made for the red carpet. Those women are covered 100% yet look as hot as Rihanna with her natural assets exposed for the world to see. Im sure any woman or women will look for an excuse everyday to go out of the house and do something just to show the world how hot she looks in those special designer hijabs.

Bismehe Ta3ala,

I hope you are well and in good health.

Hajj Hassanain Rajabali addresses simliar statements you have indicated.

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9 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:
9 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

Those answers seem scripted. Here's a bot test, how do you feel when you wear the hijab ? when you don't wear it ? I am asking how you feel specifically, not a generalized answer. If you pass the bot test, I will respond further.

 

Bismehe Ta3ala 

Sister Maryam, Assalam Alikum 

Why is showing your hair and skin make you feel liberated?  I don't understand.  What are you missing out as a covered woman?

How am I exactly free and treated with respect, if I show my body parts to non mahram men?  What are you being restricted from when you are a hijabi?

Brother @ali_fatheroforphans

Mash'Allah, brother throughout your time here in ShiaChat, you maintain respect and courtesy.  You are applying Quranic verses in your responses, so beautiful and effective, thank you.  God protect you from all harm.

As you can see there is passive aggression taking place with some of the responses.  If I was younger and naive, you can see how that would make someone start doubting their faith because of the negative reactions.  Alhamd'Allah, this is just proof that holding on to your faith is like holding a burning coal in your hand.  By God, they will be answerable to Allah.  All Glory to Him.

If only our youth would understand how the enemy works and want to destroy our religion.  More awareness needs to be furnished about the soft war taking place.  The goal is to hate Rasoul Allah and to leave the religion.

M3 Salamah, Fe Amin Allah 

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On 1/15/2019 at 12:21 AM, BowTie said:

I disagree with you. Not everyones minds work the same way "Oh its obligatory I'll do it." Besides she didn't take off her hijab. And you as a woman, you're not helping. Unless, you don't know how to comfort someone, you're making it worse.

Assalam Alikum Brother,

What rings in my ears are the wills of the martyrs.  They were men, brothers, husbands, and fathers.  They get it and that's why Allah took them back to Him.

"YOUR HIJAB IS MORE PRECIOUS THAN MY BLOOD“

Allah 3inna 3la anfousna.

M3 Salamah, Fe Amin Allah 

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2 hours ago, Laayla said:

Assalam Alikum Brother,

What rings in my ears are the wills of the martyrs.  They were men, brothers, husbands, and fathers.  They get it and that's why Allah took them back to Him.

"YOUR HIJAB IS MORE PRECIOUS THAN MY BLOOD“

Allah 3inna 3la anfousna.

M3 Salamah, Fe Amin Allah 

Hijab is for Allah, while you’re turning it into misogyny.

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Bismehe Ta3ala 

Assalam Alikum 

@Haji 2003

Here we go again.

Where does one begin?

I'm going to observe for now and see how this will end up.

Two huge institutions of our faith are being questioned.  Hijab and taqleed, I'm going to wait patiently to see who are the defenders of the religion.

La Howla wa la quwata 2ila bil Allah

M3 Salamah, Fe Amin Allah 

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9 hours ago, ali_fatheroforphans said:

Salam,

Refer to the answer of the other sisters when it comes to hijab, because as a guy I don't understand the struggle.

But regarding the marja thing, yes some fatwas can be different. However if you study fiqh, majority of the fatwas which relate to fulfilling your obligatory acts are mostly the same. The section on taharah, salah, hajj etc. Will be similar in all fiqh books, because most the narrations on it are very strong and agreed by most maraja.

The reason why some fatwas can change is because of the evidence concerning a hukm. For example, in fiqh there is a general rule that you should not harm your body. There are strong narrations to support the general rule, however many different sub-issues concerning that rule can change depending on the evidence which may be different according to various marajas. Naser Makarem Shirazi has prohibited smoking now because he looked at the scientific evidence and was absolutely sure that it is harmful for the body. The hukm still didn't change, because there was a strong narration on it. This is just one example, there are many more.

I wouldn't go as far as saying that it's their own understanding of Islam. Our maraja study over thousands of traditions, and have to analyze its chain of narrators.  In addition, they have to place two hadiths side by side and ensure that it doesn't contradict each other, because our Imams (عليه السلام) have done taqqiyah at times. It requires scholars, just like you need PHD students to deal with advance research work. We should appreciate the work of our maraja, and not follow our own desires, because Allah will question us on the day of judgement. If your answer is "well I think it should be this way", then you wouldn't be excused. If you follow a fatwa and turned out the maraja got it all wrong, then you'll be excused. Sister, it's rational to do taqleed, even the Qur'an tells us to follow those who fear God and have knowledge.

Btw this Quranic verse may not relate to all this, it's my own reflection to be honest.

Surah Al-Anbiyaʼ  : Verse (21 : 7)

وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ إِلَّا رِجَالًا نُّوحِىٓ إِلَيْهِمْ فَسْـَٔلُوٓا۟ أَهْلَ ٱلذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ

Sayyid Ali Quli Qarai : We did not send [any apostles] before you except as men to whom We revealed. Ask the People of the Reminder if you do not know.

@Laayla agree with me? Correct me if I said something wrong. 

Salam brother,

Analysing narrations is still you applying your own logic and your own understanding. That’s why, nowadays some marja’s have come out with the ruling that hijab is not in fact wajib, for example. 

Marja’s are thought to have knowledge but that doesn’t make everything they say a fact. They don’t know for sure if they’re right. Only the Prophets peace be upon them do because they have been instructed by Allah to do certain things. At the end of the day, marja’s are human and it is human nature to make mistakes, unintentionally. 

And if I, or you, or whoever, read hadiths and fiqh and dedicated years and years of their life researching about a certain topic and came out with a certain ruling based on their own understanding, then will they really be punshied if they turn out to be wrong, even though they didn’t intend to disobey Allah swt? I don’t know. As for phds, people write contradicting things all the time. Scientific research, for example, contradicts itself. Different scientists believe different things, and even what is being taught at school about science is constantly changing because new evidence emerges that a pervious theory that was thought to be true is not. This is all part of development. So just because someone is qualified to say something doesn’t mean they are right. With that being said, maraja’s are probably right about most things, and if they’re not then they’re probably closer to the truth than we are, but all I want to know, in this particular subject about hijab, is how do they know it is obligatory and why.

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