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The Threat of Social Media

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Stop using social media, yes. The tech companies are agents of this Dajall you speak of. Social media was designed to deliver dopamine hits when people like your content, much like the pharmacological action of crack cocaine: a short term high that quickly fades and gets you hooked quickly, so that you spend as much time on social media as possible where the technocrats mine data on you and create a very detailed profile of who you are and then use this to feed content back to you that they know you will like so that you are never exposed to new ideas or opposing views. They do this so that the can sell advertising space for lots of money to the highest bidder and trigger you into materialism and consumerist desires. It's also posited that social media has made people more withdrawn from one another as well as much less civil/far nastier and this is evident when seeing the types of comments that flood YouTube about religion from bitter and hate filled atheists as well as people threatening one another and slandering other's families over politics on Facebook. Furthermore, children and teens commit suicide frequently as a response to bullying on social media.

I don't use Facebook at all. I still use Instagram, but it's less bad because people don't really comment the way they do on YouTube and Facebook.

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9 minutes ago, GD41586 said:

 

I don't use Facebook at all. I still use Instagram, but it's less bad because people don't really comment the way they do on YouTube and Facebook.

Not a so long time ago I was insulted in PM in Instagram by a woman because I said I was in favor of mandatory hijab and I was forced to block her because she didn't stop to insult me. 

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17 minutes ago, alidu78 said:

Not a so long time ago I was insulted in PM in Instagram by a woman because I said I was in favor of mandatory hijab and I was forced to block her because she didn't stop to insult me. 

Hmm... Very few people ever comment on my pictures :confused:

But yes, that is why these apps have a block feature: because people believe that their opinions absolutely *must* be heard and agreed with by others, which just so happens to be another major negative of social media: narcissism and an unwarranted sense of self importance.

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2 hours ago, GD41586 said:

Stop using social media, yes. The tech companies are agents of this Dajall you speak of. Social media was designed to deliver dopamine hits when people like your content, much like the pharmacological action of crack cocaine: a short term high that quickly fades and gets you hooked quickly, so that you spend as much time on social media as possible where the technocrats mine data on you and create a very detailed profile of who you are and then use this to feed content back to you that they know you will like so that you are never exposed to new ideas or opposing views. They do this so that the can sell advertising space for lots of money to the highest bidder and trigger you into materialism and consumerist desires. It's also posited that social media has made people more withdrawn from one another as well as much less civil/far nastier and this is evident when seeing the types of comments that flood YouTube about religion from bitter and hate filled atheists as well as people threatening one another and slandering other's families over politics on Facebook. Furthermore, children and teens commit suicide frequently as a response to bullying on social media.

I don't use Facebook at all. I still use Instagram, but it's less bad because people don't really comment the way they do on YouTube and Facebook.

Be moderate in using social media. Its the battlefield of soft war and Facebook is a big player in it. Just limit yourself to seeking and spreading knowledge. No need to argue with ignorant people. I use facebook and have learnt quite a lot. It also keeps me updated with what is going on in the Muslim world especially using trusted sources. 

I am also connected with brothers from different parts of the world. Many of my good friendships happened on facebook that turned in to a real time strong friendships. You just need to limit yourself. Build a wall and don't let anything nasty or ignorant seep it. Use their tool for good. The tool in itself is neutral. The way you use it makes it Satanic or Sacred.

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There is also this controversy in Iran, that banning Facebook and Twitter has given a shot in the arm to the royalists and CIA-MI6 stooges to spread misinformation by making it impossible to post a counter narrative on these platforms.

Honestly, it is an individual choice, according to me. If you feel that social media is interfering with your peace of mind, then quit at once.

I like SC much better than Facebook. Part of the reason is that I am an introvert/socially awkward, and I like the relative anonymity and Islamic environment that SC offers. Secondly, brothers and sisters here are vastly superior in terms of their online behavior here. Moreover, the content quality on Facebook is no match for that on SC. I have personally benefitted much from this site.

 

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4 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

There is also this controversy in Iran, that banning Facebook and Twitter has given a shot in the arm to the royalists and CIA-MI6 stooges to spread misinformation by making it impossible to post a counter narrative on these platforms.

Honestly, it is an individual choice, according to me. If you feel that social media is interfering with your peace of mind, then quit at once.

I like SC much better than Facebook. Part of the reason is that I am an introvert/socially awkward, and I like the relative anonymity and Islamic environment that SC offers. Secondly, brothers and sisters here are vastly superior in terms of their online behavior here. Moreover, the content quality on Facebook is no match for that on SC. I have personally benefitted much from this site.

 

But Islam asks you to be "Social". Isn't?

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16 hours ago, Waseem162 said:

But Islam asks you to be "Social". Isn't?

Actually, SC is my kind of social space!!:grin:

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Eventually, social media will be as ubiquitous as email, running water, and electricity. It will be one of those “must haves” to function in many life settings. Complete avoidance will be less of a realistic option.

A more nuanced discussion should be about regulation of it, and how to extract its benefits.

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34 minutes ago, Reza said:

A more nuanced discussion should be about regulation of it, and how to extract its benefits.

Agreed, but what needs regulated? how is it to be regulated? and who is going to regulate it?

A real benefit will be better search engines for the lnternet.

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On 12/16/2018 at 1:19 PM, Waseem162 said:

Be moderate in using social media. Its the battlefield of soft war and Facebook is a big player in it. Just limit yourself to seeking and spreading knowledge. No need to argue with ignorant people. I use facebook and have learnt quite a lot. It also keeps me updated with what is going on in the Muslim world especially using trusted sources. 

I am also connected with brothers from different parts of the world. Many of my good friendships happened on facebook that turned in to a real time strong friendships. You just need to limit yourself. Build a wall and don't let anything nasty or ignorant seep it. Use their tool for good. The tool in itself is neutral. The way you use it makes it Satanic or Sacred.

Bro Waseem,

Allow me to clarify and explain my reaction to your post, because your goals in using social media are of course admirable. Seeking and spreading knowledge seem like a given and the proper motivation for someone to use social media (Facebook in this case); but Facebook has a huge underlying flaw (or a perfectly engineered danger depending on how we view it).

Since the way that FB makes money is to deliver targeted advertising by showing you products and services that it believes you will like based off of the profile it builds from the data it collects from you, the flaw/danger I speak of is how the algorithm gets you trapped in the "filter bubble" where you are only exposed to information that will keep you engaged with the platform and keep you clicking. The truth about Facebook is that we can think that we are disseminating and receiving knowledge, but because of this very filter bubble we may (and most times, are) only being exposed to the stories and information that we want to read and therefore could be missing out on truth that the algorithm reads as being something we disagree with, thus it won't be shown to us. This also happens with content we share with others: people don't like what you have to say so they don't unfriend you, but mark that they "don't like this content" or "show me less like this" which works as a means to effectively turn off the voice or filter out similar opinions or stories. Facebook claims that it is very concerned about "fake news" (which means opinions that run counter to the leftist political opinions of it's owners and those of the other silicon valley technocrats) but this is largely in reaction to the platform being used to rally support for Donald Trump in 2016 and of course, doesn't seem to matter at all when the fake news happens to be misrepresented statistics or "reporting" that skews heavily to the left.

FB does function as a utility to make long lasting friendships as Myspace did before it-- I have a friend I talk to almost daily that I've never met in person but had first encountered on Myspace back in 2008 from Anchorage, Alaska; so I agree with that. I'm not saying that people who use FB are "bad" either, quite the opposite-- many of the people who try to use FB as a means to spread and seek knowledge have nothing but the best of intentions. I'm simply saying that I don't trust FB's ability to be impartial in the nature of the content it delivers because only showing me what I like or agree with could be keeping me from being exposed to valuable information that would provoke critical thought or even change my mind about a situation or topic that I am ignorant to or misinformed about in reality. As someone who is particularly sensitive to the effect of living in a "post truth society" where there are "multiple truths", this is why I am very suspect of getting important information (or sharing important information I may have a critical opinion of) on the platform.

If FB were to take steps to mitigate the problem of the filter bubble & feedback loop, I'd be much more apt to make an account again because it certainly is a convenient way to stay in touch with friends and family who are separated by long distance. :)

 

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Yair Netanyahu, 27, barred for 24 hours for anti-Muslim and anti-Palestinian comments

Miriam Berger in Jerusalem

Benjamin Netanyahu with his son Yair in Jerusalem in 2015  Yair Netanyahu (right) with his father in Jerusalem in 2015. Photograph: Thomas Coex/AFP/Getty Images

The son of the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, has been temporarily banned from Facebook after a series of anti-Muslim and anti-Palestinian posts the social network said broke its rules on hate speech.

 

Yair Netanyahu, the eldest of the prime minister’s children, has previously stoked controversy on his social media platforms, echoing his father’s message that Israel’s media and left are against him.

He posted a meme last year mocking some of his father’s critics, including the liberal Jewish financier George Soros, which many Jewish groups, including the Anti-Defamation league, said was antisemitic.

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https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/ADL-condemns-Yair-Netanyahus-antisemitic-meme-neo-Nazi-site-approves-504673

After two Israeli soldiers were killed, Netanyahu called for revenge. When Facebook removed that post, he wrote in another post, since removed, that Facebook was “trying to shut our mouths in the only place where we have the right to express our opinions”.

He continued: “Hamas, Hezbollah and the Iranian regime have official pages on Facebook. There are also endless pages calling for the destruction of Israeland the murder of Jews. Thousands of violent and extreme left-wing posts against me and my family, including threats of physical violence and immoral murder threats.”

While Netanyahu’s political posts and attacks on Facebook resonate among some Israelis, less popular are scandals over his public access. Last year, Israeli media released a recording from a few years ago of Netanyahu on a night out with friends at a strip club, during which he makes misogynistic statements and asks to borrow money from the son of one of his father’s friends.

The prime minister’s critics have attacked Yair for living in his father’s residence and having a driver, bodyguard and other perks despite not having any official government role.

 

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Imam Khamenei: Cyberspace-and-social-media-are-more-powerful-than-nuclear-bombs

Today, media are the most important weapon in the war between powers. Even the greatest powers are working with media. Today, the influence of media, television networks, art and great internet networks is much more than that of weapons, missiles and atomic bombs. Today's world is such a world. They are expanding this arena on a daily basis. May 17, 2004

This is because cyberspace is really a growing and unstoppable world. There is no end to this world. No matter how hard we look, the thing that is infinite and endless is cyberspace. The more we move forward in this world, the more it continues. This presents great opportunities for every country. And it involves certain threats as well. We should do something to make the most of the opportunities and to keep the threats at bay as much as possible. 
Aug 24, 2016

I have written down a number of those capabilities of ours that are the target of most enmities:

The first is Islamic faith: ........

If you are interested in social networks and in cyberspace, you know and understand well what I am referring to. They are using all methods to undermine our Islamic faith. What does “our” refer to? Does it refer to me, a seventy, eighty-year old man? No, they are not worried about us. They want to undermine the faith of the generation that appeared after us and the generations after that. And certain efforts are being made to that end. Well, a source of our power and our capability is our Islamic faith which is a target of their enmity. 

Jun 14, 2016

http://english.khamenei.ir/news/4952/Cyberspace-and-social-media-are-more-powerful-than-nuclear-bombs

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https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/7-social-media-tips-to-learn-from-the-ayatollah-khamenei-in-images/

https://medium.com/@bonyana/imam-khamenei-nations-desire-for-domestic-social-network-is-source-of-delight-74989d028f91

http://english.khamenei.ir/news/5590/Imam-Khamenei-s-fatwa-Invading-users-privacy-on-social-media

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@Ashvazdanghe that's very interesting how I don't follow Khamenei at all, but he has said the same things about social media that I have been saying for a while.

I'd have to point out that if he believes that Islamic faith is the religion that is the most under attack on the internet, that he must not read the comments left on the YouTube videos of Christians. These comments, if you took the words "Jesus/Bible" & replaced them with "Muhammad/Quran" would almost certainly cause some sort of violent reprisal (which I don't condone because I don't believe that religion nor the God who establishes it to need humans to defend it's/his honor & see as brutal and antithetical to the nature of a merciful higher power).

You see, political correctness from the Western left teaches that Islam is a religion tied to having "brown skin" & thus, they do not criticize it lest they be called racist despite Islam by what I see not sharing any values with Western leftist secular ideology (LGBTQ "pride", the soft bigotry of low expectations for people of color, atheism, "feminism" aka misandry, communism, hatred of anything traditional, abortion, etc)

I guess the saying "great minds think alike" is true. I'd love to have a conversation with the Imam & see what he would have to say about some of my other ideas.

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6 hours ago, GD41586 said:

people don't like what you have to say so they don't unfriend you, but mark that they "don't like this content" or "show me less like this" which works as a means to effectively turn off the voice or filter out similar opinions or stories.

 

6 hours ago, GD41586 said:

the problem of the filter bubble & feedback loop

As l wrote on another thread, this is also a means of socio-political control. People, young people especially, like to get a "Like" so they modify their thinking to conform with this wish, change their wordings and so forth.

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On 12/19/2018 at 1:35 AM, hasanhh said:

 

As l wrote on another thread, this is also a means of socio-political control. People, young people especially, like to get a "Like" so they modify their thinking to conform with this wish, change their wordings and so forth.

I will like ur comment so u write more like this hehe

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To retweet or not retweet ? Accountability for our Actions ,Maulsna Syed muhammad Rizvi 

 

 

On 12/16/2018 at 7:15 PM, Ejaz said:

what do you think about this video by our sunni brothers? Should we stop using facebook or limit it to liking safe pages without manipulation?

I think they see Dajjal everywhere but by definition from Dajjal they are his best servants ,they forbid everyone from using it but use it in their behalf to spread radical views & defaming Islam but we are still weak in using social media & hardly can use it to spread true message of Shia Islam that is true path but by weakness highly neglected in social media .

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3 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

To retweet or not retweet ? Accountability for our Actions ,Maulsna Syed muhammad Rizvi 

 

 

I think they see Dajjal everywhere but by definition from Dajjal they are his best servants ,they forbid everyone from using it but use it in their behalf to spread radical views & defaming Islam but we are still weak in using social media & hardly can use it to spread true message of Shia Islam that is true path but by weakness highly neglected in social media .

Salam bro thanks for your input but I think not all of them are like this only extreme ones especially from Saudi influence / payroll...  and Dajjal symbols are present in a lot of media so u are right we need to do something for Shi’a media like Islamic pulse on YouTube. 

 

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