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41 minutes ago, Asghar Ali Karbalai said:

oh this ayah from surah e nur 'Allah ho nur us samawati al ardh' is breath taking.

Unlock some secrets please. @skyweb1987 @Salsabeel

I hope the haters and deniers don't pop up and start their work here though.

Before going any further i like to mention the following verses:

اللَّهُ وَلِيُّ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا يُخْرِجُهُم مِّنَ الظُّلُمَاتِ إِلَى النُّورِ

Allah is the guardian of those who believe. He brings them out of the darkness into the light; (2:257)

إِنَّمَا وَلِيُّكُمُ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا الَّذِينَ يُقِيمُونَ الصَّلَاةَ وَيُؤْتُونَ الزَّكَاةَ وَهُمْ رَاكِعُونَ

Only Allah is your Vali and His Messenger and those who believe, those who keep up prayers and pay the poor-rate while they bow. (5:55)

وَمَن يَتَوَلَّ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا فَإِنَّ حِزْبَ اللَّهِ هُمُ الْغَالِبُونَ

And whoever takes Allah and His messenger and those who believe for a guardian, then surely the party of Allah are they that shall be triumphant.(5:56)

Allah swt, the prophet and Ale Muhammad AS are the Wali for believers.

Look at the following verse for the other  Wali (other than Allah swt, the Prophet and Ale Muhamamd AS)

 

 وَمَن يَتَّخِذِ الشَّيْطَانَ وَلِيًّا مِّن دُونِ اللَّهِ فَقَدْ خَسِرَ خُسْرَانًا مُّبِينًا

and whoever takes the Shaitan for a guardian rather than Allah he indeed shall suffer a manifest loss. (4:119)

يَا أَبَتِ إِنِّي أَخَافُ أَن يَمَسَّكَ عَذَابٌ مِّنَ الرَّحْمَٰنِ فَتَكُونَ لِلشَّيْطَانِ وَلِيًّا

O my father! surely I fear that a punishment from the Beneficent Allah should afflict you so that you should be a friend of the Shaitan. (19:45)

تَاللَّهِ لَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا إِلَىٰ أُمَمٍ مِّن قَبْلِكَ فَزَيَّنَ لَهُمُ الشَّيْطَانُ أَعْمَالَهُمْ فَهُوَ وَلِيُّهُمُ الْيَوْمَ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ

By Allah, most certainly We sent (messengers) to nations before you, but the Shaitan made their deeds fair-seeming to them, so he is their guardian today, and they shall have a painful punishment. (16:63)

اتَّبِعُوا مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَلَا تَتَّبِعُوا مِن دُونِهِ أَوْلِيَاءَ ۗ قَلِيلًا مَّا تَذَكَّرُونَ

Follow what has been revealed to you from your Lord and do not follow guardians besides Him, how little do you mind. (7:3)

This means that we should not take the Shaitan as Wali / guardian.

Those who are appointed by Allah are Wali including messenger, Imam Ali (& 11 Imams after him), we shall follow them (as mentioned in verse 5:55, 56).

وَالَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَوْلِيَاؤُهُمُ الطَّاغُوتُ يُخْرِجُونَهُم مِّنَ النُّورِ إِلَى الظُّلُمَاتِ ۗ أُولَٰئِكَ أَصْحَابُ النَّارِ ۖ هُمْ فِيهَا خَالِدُونَ

and (as to) those who disbelieve, their guardians are Shaitans who take them out of the light into the darkness; they are the inmates of the fire, in it they shall abide. (2:257)

يَا بَنِي آدَمَ لَا يَفْتِنَنَّكُمُ الشَّيْطَانُ كَمَا أَخْرَجَ أَبَوَيْكُم مِّنَ الْجَنَّةِ يَنزِعُ عَنْهُمَا لِبَاسَهُمَا لِيُرِيَهُمَا سَوْآتِهِمَا ۗ إِنَّهُ يَرَاكُمْ هُوَ وَقَبِيلُهُ مِنْ حَيْثُ لَا تَرَوْنَهُمْ ۗ إِنَّا جَعَلْنَا الشَّيَاطِينَ أَوْلِيَاءَ لِلَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ

O children of Adam! let not the Shaitan cause you to fall into affliction as he expelled your parents from the garden, pulling off from them both their clothing that he might show them their evil inclinations, he surely sees you, he as well as his host, from whence you cannot see them; surely We have made the Shaitansto be the guardians of those who do not believe. (7:27)

I may come after some time for the word Light / Noor from quran

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@Asghar Ali Karbalai

The example you brought up was good and explains everything, but Allah is not away from us. It's our sins that make us away from him. Allah said follow Ahlulbait to reach me, so we obey what he said. The reason we follow Ahlulbait is because Allah told prophet. Its not because we like to do that.

About hidden Shirk I forgot to mention something. Rasoulullah said:" Hidden Shirk is harder to detect than a black ant walking on a black rock". We should always do Tavakkul to Allah and Ahlulbait and be خالص in our Aamal.

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7 hours ago, Asghar Ali Karbalai said:

oh this ayah from surah e nur 'Allah ho nur us samawati al ardh' is breath taking.

Unlock some secrets please. @skyweb1987 @Salsabeel

I hope the haters and deniers don't pop up and start their work here though.

۞ ٱللَّهُ نُورُ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِ ۚ مَثَلُ نُورِهِۦ كَمِشْكَوٰةٍۢ فِيهَا مِصْبَاحٌ ۖ ٱلْمِصْبَاحُ فِى زُجَاجَةٍ ۖ ٱلزُّجَاجَةُ كَأَنَّهَا كَوْكَبٌۭ دُرِّىٌّۭ يُوقَدُ مِن شَجَرَةٍۢ مُّبَٰرَكَةٍۢ زَيْتُونَةٍۢ لَّا شَرْقِيَّةٍۢ وَلَا غَرْبِيَّةٍۢ يَكَادُ زَيْتُهَا يُضِىٓءُ وَلَوْ لَمْ تَمْسَسْهُ نَارٌۭ ۚ نُّورٌ عَلَىٰ نُورٍۢ ۗ يَهْدِى ٱللَّهُ لِنُورِهِۦ مَن يَشَآءُ ۚ وَيَضْرِبُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلْأَمْثَٰلَ لِلنَّاسِ ۗ وَٱللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَىْءٍ عَلِيمٌۭ

024:035 Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The parable of His Light is a niche wherein is a lamp—the lamp is in a glass, the glass as it were a glittering star—lit from a blessed olive tree, neither eastern nor western, whose oil almost lights up, though fire should not touch it. Light upon light. Allah guides to His Light whomever He wishes. Allah draws parables for mankind, and Allah has knowledge of all things.

The word نُورُ has been mentioned 5 times in this verse. That provides a possible indication of the 5 personalities mentioned as purified ones. The following hadith provides the words of Imam for explanation:

 H 499, Ch. 13, h 5

Ali ibn Muhammad and Muhammad ibn al-Hassan have narrated from Sahl ibn Ziyad from Muhammad ibn al-Hassan ibn sham?? From ‘Abdallah ibn ‘Abd al-Rahmanal-Asamm from ‘Abdallah ibn al-Qasim from salih ibn Sahl al-Hamadani who has said that abu ‘Abdallah (a. s.) has said the following about the verse of the Holy Quran below.

"God is the light of the heavens and the earth. A metaphor for His light is a lantern in which there is a lamp placed in a glass. The glass is like a shining star which is lit from a blessed olive tree that is neither eastern nor western. Its oil almost lights up even though it has not been touched by the fire. It is light upon light. God guides to His light whomever He wants. God uses various metaphors. He has the knowledge of all things." (24:35) The Imam (a.s.) said that the lantern metaphorically stands for the Holy lady, Fatima (a.s.), the lamp stands for Imam al-Hassan (a. s.) and the glass stands for Imam  al-Husayn (a.s.). The shining star stands for the Holy lady Fatima (a.s.) who shines among the ladies of the world. The blessed olive tree stands for Prophet Abraham. Neither eastern nor western means not Jewish nor Christian. ‘Its oil almost lights up’ means that it almost bursts up with knowledge. ‘Light up on light’ means that there will one Imam after the other Imam (a.s.) ‘God guides to His light who ever He wants’ means that Allah guides through the Imams whomever He wants." About ‘God uses various metaphors’ I said, "Or it (the deeds of the unbelievers) are like the darkness of a deep, stormy sea with layers of giant waves, covered by dark clouds. It is darkness upon darkness whereby even if one stretches out his hands he can not see them. One can have no light unless God gives him light. (24:40)

 The Imam (a.s.) said, " ‘darkness’ refers to the first and his friend, ‘with layers of giant waves’ refers to the third, ‘covered with darkness’ refers to the second. ‘it is darkness up on darkness’ refers to Mu‘awiya and the disasters caused by the Amavides. ‘even if one stretches out his hands’ means that even if a true believer would stretch his hands in such disastrous condition ‘he can not see them’. ‘One can have no light unless God gives him light, means the light from the children of the Holy Lady, Fatima (a.s.) ‘Can have no light’ means an Imam on the Day of Judgment." The Imam (a.s.) said that, "On the Day of Judgment you will see the believers with their light shining in front of them and to their right.

They will be told, "Paradise wherein streams flow is the glad news for you today. You will live therein forever. This is the greatest triumph." (57:12), the shining light in front . . .’ is a reference to the Imams (a.s.) whom would walk in front and on the right of the true believers until they all enter paradise."

Ali ibn Muhammad and Muhammad ibn al-Hassan have narrated from Sahl ibn Ziyad from Musa ibn al-Qasim al-Bajali and Muhammad ibn yahya from al-‘Amrakiy ibn Ali altogether from Ali ibn Ja‘far (a.s.) from his brother a similar Hadith.

Majlisi: Sahih  (Chapter 13, The Imams (a.s.) are the light of Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, Part 4, Vol 1, Al kafi, by Sheikh Saduq)

The number of Sura is 24 and verse number is 35. Their sum is 24+35 = 59 ->5+9=14 ->1+4=5

I also like to quote the following verse:

٧_١٥٧         ٱلَّذِينَ يَتَّبِعُونَ ٱلرَّسُولَ ٱلنَّبِىَّ ٱلْأُمِّىَّ ٱلَّذِى يَجِدُونَهُۥ مَكْتُوبًا عِندَهُمْ فِى ٱلتَّوْرَىٰةِ وَٱلْإِنجِيلِ يَأْمُرُهُم بِٱلْمَعْرُوفِ وَيَنْهَىٰهُمْ عَنِ ٱلْمُنكَرِ وَيُحِلُّ لَهُمُ ٱلطَّيِّبَٰتِ وَيُحَرِّمُ عَلَيْهِمُ ٱلْخَبَٰٓئِثَ وَيَضَعُ عَنْهُمْ إِصْرَهُمْ وَٱلْأَغْلَٰلَ ٱلَّتِى كَانَتْ عَلَيْهِمْ ۚ فَٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ بِهِۦ وَعَزَّرُوهُ وَنَصَرُوهُ وَٱتَّبَعُوا۟ ٱلنُّورَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أُنزِلَ مَعَهُۥٓ ۙ أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ هُمُ ٱلْمُفْلِحُونَ

007:157 —those who follow the Messenger, the untaught Prophet, whose mention they find written with them in the Torah and the Evangel, who bids them to do what is right and forbids them from what is wrong, makes lawful to them all the good things and forbids them from all vicious things, and relieves them of their burdens and the shackles that were upon them—those who believe in him, honour him, and help him and follow the light that has been sent down with him, they are the felicitous.’

H 495, Ch. 13, h 1

Al-Husayn ibn Muhammad has narrated from Mu‘alla ibn Muhammad from Ali ibn Mirdas who has said that Saffron ibn Yahya and al-Hassan ibn Mahbub have narrated from abu Ayyub from abu Khalid al-Kabuli who has said that he asked Imam abu Ja‘far (a.s.) about the meaning of the words of Allah e following. "Those who believe in him, honor and help him, and follow the light which is sent down to him, will have everlasting happiness." (7:157) The Imams (a.s.) said, "O abu Khalid, I swear by Allah that it is the Imams from the family of the Holy Prophet (s.a.) up to the Day of judgment who are called light in the above verse. They, I swear by Allah, are the light of Allah whom He sent down. It is they, I swear by Allah, who are the light of Allah in the heavens and in the earth. O abu Khalid, I swear by Allah, that the light of the Imams (a.s.) in the hearts of the true believers is more bright than the light of the sun in the midday. They, I swear by Allah, give light to the hearts of the true believers and Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, may block such light from reaching the hearts of whoever He may will, thus their hearts remain dark. O abu Khalid, no one would believe in our Divine authority except that Allah will cleanse his heart. Allah will not cleanse the heart of a person until he or she will acknowledge our Divine authority and live in peace with us.

When one lives in peace with us Allah will safe guard him against the severity of the day of recockning and grant him security against the great terror on the Day of Judgment.

 H 496, Ch. 13, h 2

Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated through his chain of narrators from abu ‘Abdallah (a.s.) about the words of Allah that say, There are those who follow the Messengers, the illiterate Prophet (not conventionally educated), whose description they find written in the Torah and the Gospel. [He (the Messengers) enjoins them to do good and forbids them to do all that is unlawful, makes lawful for them all that is pure and unlawful all that is filthy, removes their burdens and the entanglements in which they are involved]. Those who believe in him, honor and help him, and follow the light which is sent down to him, will have everlasting happiness." (7:157)

The Imams (a.s.) said, "It is Amir al-Mu’minin Ali (a.s.) and the Imams (a.s.) after him who are called ‘light’ in the above verse of the Holy Quran."

 H 498, Ch. 13, h 4

Ahmad ibn Mahran has narrated from ‘Abd al-‘Azim ibn ‘Abdallah al-Hassani from Ali ibn Asbat and al-Hassan ibn Mahbub from abu Ayyub from abu Khalid al-kabuli who has said that he asked Imam abu ‘Abdallah (a.s.) about the meaning of the words of Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, in the following verse of the Holy Quran. "Those who believe in him, honor and help him, and follow the light which is sent down to him, will have everlasting happiness." (7:157) The Imams (a.s.) said, "O abu Khalid, the light in this verse, I swear by Allah, means the Imams. O abu Khalid the light of the Imam (a.s.) in the hearts of the true believers is more bright than the light of the sun in midday. It is they who brighten the hearts of the true believers and Allah withholds their light from reaching whomever He would will, thus, their hearts become dark and Allah covers them with the darknesss."

(Chapter 13, The Imams (a.s.) are the light of Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, Part 4, Vol 1, Al kafi, by Sheikh Saduq)

 H 500, Ch. 13, h 6

Ahmad ibn Idris has narrated from al-husayn ibn ‘Ubadallah from Muhammad ibn al-Hassan and Musa ibn ‘umar from al-hassan ibn Mahbub from Muhammad ibn al-Fudayl who has said that he asked abu al-Hassan (a.s.) about the meaning of the words of Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, in the following verse of the Holy Quran. "They want to put out the light of God with their mouths, but God will certainly make His light shine forever - even though the unbelievers may dislike this." (61:8) The Imam (a.s.) said, "They want to put out the divine authority of Amir al-Mu’minin (a.s.) with their mouths. ‘but Allah completes His light’ means the Imams (a.s.) as mentioned in, "Those who believe in him, honor and help him, and follow the light which is sent down to him, will have everlasting happiness." (7:157) The light stands for Imam (a.s.)."

 (Chapter 13, The Imams (a.s.) are the light of Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, Part 4, Vol 1, Al kafi, by Sheikh Saduq)

 Numerical Analysis:

٧_١٥٧         ٱلَّذِينَ يَتَّبِعُونَ ٱلرَّسُولَ ٱلنَّبِىَّ ٱلْأُمِّىَّ ٱلَّذِى يَجِدُونَهُۥ مَكْتُوبًا عِندَهُمْ فِى ٱلتَّوْرَىٰةِ وَٱلْإِنجِيلِ يَأْمُرُهُم بِٱلْمَعْرُوفِ وَيَنْهَىٰهُمْ عَنِ ٱلْمُنكَرِ وَيُحِلُّ لَهُمُ ٱلطَّيِّبَٰتِ وَيُحَرِّمُ عَلَيْهِمُ ٱلْخَبَٰٓئِثَ وَيَضَعُ عَنْهُمْ إِصْرَهُمْ وَٱلْأَغْلَٰلَ ٱلَّتِى كَانَتْ عَلَيْهِمْ ۚ فَٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ بِهِۦ وَعَزَّرُوهُ وَنَصَرُوهُ وَٱتَّبَعُوا۟ ٱلنُّورَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أُنزِلَ مَعَهُۥٓ ۙ أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ هُمُ ٱلْمُفْلِحُونَ

007:157 —those who follow the Messenger, the untaught Prophet, whose mention they find written with them in the Torah and the Evangel, who bids them to do what is right and forbids them from what is wrong, makes lawful to them all the good things and forbids them from all vicious things, and relieves them of their burdens and the shackles that were upon them—those who believe in him, honour him, and help him and follow the light that has been sent down with him, they are the felicitous.’

٢_١٧  مَثَلُهُمْ كَمَثَلِ ٱلَّذِى ٱسْتَوْقَدَ نَارًۭا فَلَمَّآ أَضَآءَتْ مَا حَوْلَهُۥ ذَهَبَ ٱللَّهُ بِنُورِهِمْ وَتَرَكَهُمْ فِى ظُلُمَٰتٍۢ لَّا يُبْصِرُونَ

٢_٢٥٧         ٱللَّهُ وَلِىُّ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ يُخْرِجُهُم مِّنَ ٱلظُّلُمَٰتِ إِلَى ٱلنُّورِ ۖ وَٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوٓا۟ أَوْلِيَآؤُهُمُ ٱلطَّٰغُوتُ يُخْرِجُونَهُم مِّنَ ٱلنُّورِ إِلَى ٱلظُّلُمَٰتِ ۗ أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ أَصْحَٰبُ ٱلنَّارِ ۖ هُمْ فِيهَا خَٰلِدُونَ

٥_١٦  يَهْدِى بِهِ ٱللَّهُ مَنِ ٱتَّبَعَ رِضْوَٰنَهُۥ سُبُلَ ٱلسَّلَٰمِ وَيُخْرِجُهُم مِّنَ ٱلظُّلُمَٰتِ إِلَى ٱلنُّورِ بِإِذْنِهِۦ وَيَهْدِيهِمْ إِلَىٰ صِرَٰطٍۢ مُّسْتَقِيمٍۢ

٤_١٧٤         يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ قَدْ جَآءَكُم بُرْهَٰنٌۭ مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَأَنزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكُمْ نُورًۭا مُّبِينًۭا

٦_٩١  وَمَا قَدَرُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ حَقَّ قَدْرِهِۦٓ إِذْ قَالُوا۟ مَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَىٰ بَشَرٍۢ مِّن شَىْءٍۢ ۗ قُلْ مَنْ أَنزَلَ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ ٱلَّذِى جَآءَ بِهِۦ مُوسَىٰ نُورًۭا وَهُدًۭى لِّلنَّاسِ ۖ تَجْعَلُونَهُۥ قَرَاطِيسَ تُبْدُونَهَا وَتُخْفُونَ كَثِيرًۭا ۖ وَعُلِّمْتُم مَّا لَمْ تَعْلَمُوٓا۟ أَنتُمْ وَلَآ ءَابَآؤُكُمْ ۖ قُلِ ٱللَّهُ ۖ ثُمَّ ذَرْهُمْ فِى خَوْضِهِمْ يَلْعَبُونَ

٦_١٢٢         أَوَمَن كَانَ مَيْتًۭا فَأَحْيَيْنَٰهُ وَجَعَلْنَا لَهُۥ نُورًۭا يَمْشِى بِهِۦ فِى ٱلنَّاسِ كَمَن مَّثَلُهُۥ فِى ٱلظُّلُمَٰتِ لَيْسَ بِخَارِجٍۢ مِّنْهَا ۚ كَذَٰلِكَ زُيِّنَ لِلْكَٰفِرِينَ مَا كَانُوا۟ يَعْمَلُونَ

٥_١٥  يَٰٓأَهْلَ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ قَدْ جَآءَكُمْ رَسُولُنَا يُبَيِّنُ لَكُمْ كَثِيرًۭا مِّمَّا كُنتُمْ تُخْفُونَ مِنَ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ وَيَعْفُوا۟ عَن كَثِيرٍۢ ۚ قَدْ جَآءَكُم مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ نُورٌۭ وَكِتَٰبٌۭ مُّبِينٌۭ

٥_٤٤  إِنَّآ أَنزَلْنَا ٱلتَّوْرَىٰةَ فِيهَا هُدًۭى وَنُورٌۭ ۚ يَحْكُمُ بِهَا ٱلنَّبِيُّونَ ٱلَّذِينَ أَسْلَمُوا۟ لِلَّذِينَ هَادُوا۟ وَٱلرَّبَّٰنِيُّونَ وَٱلْأَحْبَارُ بِمَا ٱسْتُحْفِظُوا۟ مِن كِتَٰبِ ٱللَّهِ وَكَانُوا۟ عَلَيْهِ شُهَدَآءَ ۚ فَلَا تَخْشَوُا۟ ٱلنَّاسَ وَٱخْشَوْنِ وَلَا تَشْتَرُوا۟ بِـَٔايَٰتِى ثَمَنًۭا قَلِيلًۭا ۚ وَمَن لَّمْ يَحْكُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ فَأُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ هُمُ ٱلْكَٰفِرُونَ

٥_٤٦  وَقَفَّيْنَا عَلَىٰٓ ءَاثَٰرِهِم بِعِيسَى ٱبْنِ مَرْيَمَ مُصَدِّقًۭا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ ٱلتَّوْرَىٰةِ ۖ وَءَاتَيْنَٰهُ ٱلْإِنجِيلَ فِيهِ هُدًۭى وَنُورٌۭ وَمُصَدِّقًۭا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ ٱلتَّوْرَىٰةِ وَهُدًۭى وَمَوْعِظَةًۭ لِّلْمُتَّقِينَ

٦_١    ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضَ وَجَعَلَ ٱلظُّلُمَٰتِ وَٱلنُّورَ ۖ ثُمَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ بِرَبِّهِمْ يَعْدِلُونَ

٧_١٥٧         ٱلَّذِينَ يَتَّبِعُونَ ٱلرَّسُولَ ٱلنَّبِىَّ ٱلْأُمِّىَّ ٱلَّذِى يَجِدُونَهُۥ مَكْتُوبًا عِندَهُمْ فِى ٱلتَّوْرَىٰةِ وَٱلْإِنجِيلِ يَأْمُرُهُم بِٱلْمَعْرُوفِ وَيَنْهَىٰهُمْ عَنِ ٱلْمُنكَرِ وَيُحِلُّ لَهُمُ ٱلطَّيِّبَٰتِ وَيُحَرِّمُ عَلَيْهِمُ ٱلْخَبَٰٓئِثَ وَيَضَعُ عَنْهُمْ إِصْرَهُمْ وَٱلْأَغْلَٰلَ ٱلَّتِى كَانَتْ عَلَيْهِمْ ۚ فَٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ بِهِۦ وَعَزَّرُوهُ وَنَصَرُوهُ وَٱتَّبَعُوا۟ ٱلنُّورَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أُنزِلَ مَعَهُۥٓ ۙ أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ هُمُ ٱلْمُفْلِحُونَ

Inside the Quran till the verse 7:157 the word نُور is mentioned exactly 12 times which is the count of 12 Imams.

 ٧_١٥٧         ٱلَّذِينَ يَتَّبِعُونَ ٱلرَّسُولَ ٱلنَّبِىَّ ٱلْأُمِّىَّ ٱلَّذِى يَجِدُونَهُۥ مَكْتُوبًا عِندَهُمْ فِى ٱلتَّوْرَىٰةِ وَٱلْإِنجِيلِ يَأْمُرُهُم بِٱلْمَعْرُوفِ وَيَنْهَىٰهُمْ عَنِ ٱلْمُنكَرِ وَيُحِلُّ لَهُمُ ٱلطَّيِّبَٰتِ وَيُحَرِّمُ عَلَيْهِمُ ٱلْخَبَٰٓئِثَ وَيَضَعُ عَنْهُمْ إِصْرَهُمْ وَٱلْأَغْلَٰلَ ٱلَّتِى كَانَتْ عَلَيْهِمْ ۚ فَٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ بِهِۦ وَعَزَّرُوهُ وَنَصَرُوهُ وَٱتَّبَعُوا۟ ٱلنُّورَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أُنزِلَ مَعَهُۥٓ ۙ أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ هُمُ ٱلْمُفْلِحُونَ

٩_٣٢  يُرِيدُونَ أَن يُطْفِـُٔوا۟ نُورَ ٱللَّهِ بِأَفْوَٰهِهِمْ وَيَأْبَى ٱللَّهُ إِلَّآ أَن يُتِمَّ نُورَهُۥ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ ٱلْكَٰفِرُونَ

١٠_٥  هُوَ ٱلَّذِى جَعَلَ ٱلشَّمْسَ ضِيَآءًۭ وَٱلْقَمَرَ نُورًۭا وَقَدَّرَهُۥ مَنَازِلَ لِتَعْلَمُوا۟ عَدَدَ ٱلسِّنِينَ وَٱلْحِسَابَ ۚ مَا خَلَقَ ٱللَّهُ ذَٰلِكَ إِلَّا بِٱلْحَقِّ ۚ يُفَصِّلُ ٱلْءَايَٰتِ لِقَوْمٍۢ يَعْلَمُونَ

١٣_١٦         قُلْ مَن رَّبُّ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِ قُلِ ٱللَّهُ ۚ قُلْ أَفَٱتَّخَذْتُم مِّن دُونِهِۦٓ أَوْلِيَآءَ لَا يَمْلِكُونَ لِأَنفُسِهِمْ نَفْعًۭا وَلَا ضَرًّۭا ۚ قُلْ هَلْ يَسْتَوِى ٱلْأَعْمَىٰ وَٱلْبَصِيرُ أَمْ هَلْ تَسْتَوِى ٱلظُّلُمَٰتُ وَٱلنُّورُ ۗ أَمْ جَعَلُوا۟ لِلَّهِ شُرَكَآءَ خَلَقُوا۟ كَخَلْقِهِۦ فَتَشَٰبَهَ ٱلْخَلْقُ عَلَيْهِمْ ۚ قُلِ ٱللَّهُ خَٰلِقُ كُلِّ شَىْءٍۢ وَهُوَ ٱلْوَٰحِدُ ٱلْقَهَّٰرُ

١٤_١  الٓر ۚ كِتَٰبٌ أَنزَلْنَٰهُ إِلَيْكَ لِتُخْرِجَ ٱلنَّاسَ مِنَ ٱلظُّلُمَٰتِ إِلَى ٱلنُّورِ بِإِذْنِ رَبِّهِمْ إِلَىٰ صِرَٰطِ ٱلْعَزِيزِ ٱلْحَمِيدِ

١٤_٥  وَلَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا مُوسَىٰ بِـَٔايَٰتِنَآ أَنْ أَخْرِجْ قَوْمَكَ مِنَ ٱلظُّلُمَٰتِ إِلَى ٱلنُّورِ وَذَكِّرْهُم بِأَيَّىٰمِ ٱللَّهِ ۚ إِنَّ فِى ذَٰلِكَ لَءَايَٰتٍۢ لِّكُلِّ صَبَّارٍۢ شَكُورٍۢ

٢٤_٤٠         أَوْ كَظُلُمَٰتٍۢ فِى بَحْرٍۢ لُّجِّىٍّۢ يَغْشَىٰهُ مَوْجٌۭ مِّن فَوْقِهِۦ مَوْجٌۭ مِّن فَوْقِهِۦ سَحَابٌۭ ۚ ظُلُمَٰتٌۢ بَعْضُهَا فَوْقَ بَعْضٍ إِذَآ أَخْرَجَ يَدَهُۥ لَمْ يَكَدْ يَرَىٰهَا ۗ وَمَن لَّمْ يَجْعَلِ ٱللَّهُ لَهُۥ نُورًۭا فَمَا لَهُۥ مِن نُّورٍ

٢٤_٣٥         ۞ ٱللَّهُ نُورُ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِ ۚ مَثَلُ نُورِهِۦ كَمِشْكَوٰةٍۢ فِيهَا مِصْبَاحٌ ۖ ٱلْمِصْبَاحُ فِى زُجَاجَةٍ ۖ ٱلزُّجَاجَةُ كَأَنَّهَا كَوْكَبٌۭ دُرِّىٌّۭ يُوقَدُ مِن شَجَرَةٍۢ مُّبَٰرَكَةٍۢ زَيْتُونَةٍۢ لَّا شَرْقِيَّةٍۢ وَلَا غَرْبِيَّةٍۢ يَكَادُ زَيْتُهَا يُضِىٓءُ وَلَوْ لَمْ تَمْسَسْهُ نَارٌۭ ۚ نُّورٌ عَلَىٰ نُورٍۢ ۗ يَهْدِى ٱللَّهُ لِنُورِهِۦ مَن يَشَآءُ ۚ وَيَضْرِبُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلْأَمْثَٰلَ لِلنَّاسِ ۗ وَٱللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَىْءٍ عَلِيمٌۭ

From the verse 7:157 till the verse 24:35 the word نُور is mentioned in Quran exactly 14 times which is the count of 14 Infallibles.

The verse 24:35 mentions the word نُور  5 times for the representation of 5 purified personalities.

 wasalam

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8 hours ago, AmirAlmuminin Lover said:

@Asghar Ali Karbalai

The example you brought up was good and explains everything, but Allah is not away from us. It's our sins that make us away from him. Allah said follow Ahlulbait to reach me, so we obey what he said. The reason we follow Ahlulbait is because Allah told prophet. Its not because we like to do that.

About hidden Shirk I forgot to mention something. Rasoulullah said:" Hidden Shirk is harder to detect than a black ant walking on a black rock". We should always do Tavakkul to Allah and Ahlulbait and be خالص in our Aamal.

But even the Propeht had a distance from Allah. Refer to the Miraj when he went to the lote tree- it mentioned distance(veil). The Ayat moves as if you think you will meet Allah, but then Allah reminds again he is the most high, and what do we see instead? His greatest sign....

when you want to meet Allah and go to the highest reaches then you’ll meet his greatest sign

Allah leaves nothing out

so imagine just how amazing Allah is

its incomprehensible 

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13 hours ago, Asghar Ali Karbalai said:

Brother, I do not know about scholars mentioning it openly due to the fact that people will reject it and say it is kufr and due to it being a secret should be kept as a secret.

I don't believe blindly, I question and learn from 'Aql' and I wonder always what could be hidden from the 14 Infallibles and then I say to myself that this is not my concern because these are some very in depth things.

You know, Aal(asws) e Mohammad(saww) did not open up in front of many people, like Aaqa(saww) saying, had not I been afraid of my ummah being astrayed I would have mentioned such fazails of Moula Ali(asws) that nobody else would have heard of. They had to hide many things from us and even after hiding many things, Nusairis came into existence, Imagine if Aaqa(saww) had mentioned those fazails what could have happened?

Also Hazrat Meesam(asws) or another sahabi of Moula Ali(asws) or a masoom(asws) said that if I tell you some other fazails of Moula Ali(asws) then half of the world would get crazy and half would die hearing it.

A lot of secrets brother.

These things never came openly.

Having said that, I am just a learner like everyone else here.

I wish I was there. I would gladly die hearing such praises and beauty about one beautiful perfected being aboeut another beautiful perfected being

its so sad humans didn’t ask enough and now we will probably never know. Save a few 

t-t

 

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@skyweb1987

brother mashallah! I’m so glad my heart already knows these things and accepts all of it but I’m ashamed at my lack of perception and scholarly knowledge on this...

but brotherrrrr :cry::cry::cry:

i want to learn Arabic! I don’t know it

T-T It’s a shame I don’t know it! I know the secret of these things are in the letters. So learning Arabic is so important to interpret the Quran like the ocean it is-with it’s depth of knowledge. Which might explain the seemingly broken letters beginning of some Surahs. The secrets are in the letter, the backbones, the smallest units, the select purified few 

your passion and love for analyzing everything with in mind that it HAS to relate to the ahulbayt (because you can be objective and humble and see that’s obviously what the truth is) shows me how pure your heart and mind is. Mashallah!! I wish to know the mighty language the Quran came in and the Ahlulbayt spoke in

the wormholes of all wormholes! 

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13 hours ago, Salsabeel said:

They can only know what Allah (s.w.t) allows them to know.

Wala yohetoona beshayin min ilmehe "illa bemashaa". 

Prophet (S) although being at the state of "fa kana qaba qowsayne aw adna" but there still present a gap, a veil. Perhaps these blessed personalities becomes veil for each other at a point.  

Yes! And the highest veil Is Sayeda herself! She is the continuation(? Is that the appropriate word?) of Faatir, she Isbell the closest to Allah of which the Nabi hasn’t been to. Imam Jafar Sadiq(as) I also believe has said that he cannot even understand the most pious lady, Sayeda! 

Her veil is the veil of Allah!!

those who know more please help elaborate :) where the hadiths are form exactly?

im still learning, comparable to a child learning to crawl nonetheless with a destination in mind

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13 hours ago, Salsabeel said:

Your and mine are limitations and those limitations are the words of Allah (s.w.t). The source of knowledge of Prophet (S) is His Rabb. How much is his (prophet's) knowledge, I don't know and cannot know but Allah (s.w.t) has mentioned that it is limited. The Only unlimited, absolute is Allah (s.w.t), Only He is All-knowing, created beings cannot get unlimited capacity or become absolute in anyway. That is what logic dictates. 

Of course they’re not absolute. Which makes it all the more sadder, they’re Allahs most precious and close creation. They are HIS LOVE!! They way a mother or father loves their child people say that’s the biggest strength And the strongest love, but Allah doenst have something he loves and wants to protect? They are so dear to him, we cry and die if one of our own dies or is subjected to cruelty, how must we imagine then Allahs absolute fury and ‘hurt’(maybe there is a better word- Allah forgive my limited vocabulary)? Anyway, But only Allah knows what such absolute is. So their status is just as hard to understand as Allahs position. 

nobody can deny they have a special and therefore non-definable (in mathematical and in this plane of existence;limits) relationship. So we as Muslims have no right to put our own arbitrary cap on what such absoluteness is. Therefore like Allah makes clear so simple, Allah is the only creator and his rasool are Muhammed and his Wali is Ali. And it is with his light(which we don’t know in clear cut defined terms-humans don’t even know much about their own brains, and psychology for humans is still so undersood) that he guides and wills, therefore ahulbayt are this light and this will as well.

and we would know the CNS of Allah and Ahlulbayt? Their relationship is only with each other, not anyone can say they are what Allah wills...

sorry lots of bio and math terms here 

ive got finals t-t

im just drawing comparisons 

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On 12/14/2018 at 6:51 PM, Asghar Ali Karbalai said:

Assalam o alaikum

Respected brothers and sisters

Hope you are fine in shaALLAH.

My question, I am keeping it very simple.

What is 'Shirk'?

1. Saying someone else is also Allah.

2. Saying what Allah has (an example he sees everything) nobody else can have.

Iblis did not even make that mistake. 

There is a difference in Divine Wali and Wali,( 5:55)  One is the Creator and other is the created and appointed by the Divine.  

This stuff, on the internet is pre-islamic version of gods, they have not moved passed it. so I would not pay attention to their claims. 

*****

So, Iblis had neither any defect in the principle of belief in Allah’s being the Creator, or in belief in Allah’s Lordship in creation and nor in belief in ma’ad. But still he falls so much! Why? Because he does not believe in Allah’s Lordship in Law-giving (Divine legislation) and docs not regard Allah’s command to be obeyed unquestionably, unless Allah’s command would be consistent with (Ibis’s) own thought and desire." 2

https://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235034818-a-dialogue-on-your-understanding-of-shirk/?tab=comments#comment-2879294 

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6 hours ago, Ralvi said:

i want to learn Arabic! I don’t know it

T-T It’s a shame I don’t know it! I know the secret of these things are in the letters. So learning Arabic is so important to interpret the Quran like the ocean it is-with it’s depth of knowledge. Which might explain the seemingly broken letters beginning of some Surahs. The secrets are in the letter, the backbones, the smallest units, the select purified few 

your passion and love for analyzing everything with in mind that it HAS to relate to the ahulbayt (because you can be objective and humble and see that’s obviously what the truth is) shows me how pure your heart and mind is. Mashallah!! I wish to know the mighty language the Quran came in and the Ahlulbayt spoke in

the wormholes of all wormholes! 

The following links may be helpful:

https://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/234992159-how-to-learn-arabic/

https://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235050656-learn-arabic-with-arabic_language_eye/

wasalam

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Salaam alaykum,

I have another linked question. 

We know shirk is the worst sin because it is a crime against Allah swt whereas murder is crime against human. Now, does a person have to be provided with the proofs of the Tawhid of Allah and then if he intentionally/stubbornly rejects he will go to hell. I.e. can a polytheist/ atheist be considered jaahil e qassir / enter heaven or does that only apply to ahl e kitab?

If the shirk is “unintentional” will it be punishable by eternal hellfire as Allah doesn’t punish until he sends a messenger?

JazakAllah Khayr for your intellectual replies and JazakAllah to Brother Asghar for seeking in-depth Quran knowledge.

—  layman 

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On 12/15/2018 at 5:21 AM, Asghar Ali Karbalai said:

Assalam o alaikum

Respected brothers and sisters

Hope you are fine in shaALLAH.

My question, I am keeping it very simple.

What is 'Shirk'?

1. Saying someone else is also Allah.

2. Saying what Allah has (an example he sees everything) nobody else can have.

I say 1 is shirk, Do you say both points are shirk, if 'yes' then why if 'no' then why?

I say 1 is shirk because Allah is ahad.

I say 2 is not shirk because Allah hears everything so does Aaqa(saww) hears everything. Aal(asws) e Mohammad(saww) hears everything. An example.

A request kindly do not start debating here. Those who believe that Aaqa(saww) or Aal(asws) e Mohammad(saww) cannot hear everything all the time, kindly do not mind but do not participate in this forum because this will go into a long debate and the real message will get lost.

Let us just learn without debating and contradicting.

For my shi'i and sunni brothers.

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Many Muslims incorrectly assume that shirk is restricted to worshipping statues or simply attributing other Gods with the Lord Almighty. 
 
Although statue worship and attributing other forms of deities with Allah is no doubt a form of idolatry, limiting it to this understanding is untenable from the Quran's perspective. Idol worship from the Quran's perspective can take many forms. 
 
Here are some examples of shirk 
 
 
(1) ONE'S OWN EGO AND DESIRE AS SHIRK
 
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"Have you seen him who takes his desires (passion, impulse, lust) (Arabic: Hawahu) for his Allah
(Arabic: Illahahu)? Will you then be a protector over him?"

2) INTERCESSORS AS SHIRK
010:018
“They serve, besides Allah, things that hurt them not nor profit them, and they say: "These are our intercessors with Allah." Say: "Do ye indeed inform Allah of something He knows not, in the heavens or on earth? Glory to Him! and far is He above the partners they ascribe (to Him)!"” 

(3) WORSHIP OF DEAD SAINTS AND PROPHETS IS SHIRK
 
016.020-21 
“Those whom they invoke besides Allah create nothing and are themselves created. (They are things) dead, lifeless: nor do they know when they will be raised up” 
 
018:102
“Do the Unbelievers think that they can take My servants as protectors besides Me? Verily We have prepared Hell for the Unbelievers for (their) entertainment” 
 
017.056-57 
“Say: "Call on those - besides Him - whom you fancy: they have neither the power to remove your troubles from you nor to change them." Those whom they call upon do desire (for themselves) means of access to their Lord which of those who are nearest and they hope for His Mercy and fear His Wrath: for the Wrath of thy Lord is something to take heed of”
 
Prophets would never have allowed any form of shirk and would have asked their followers to study the scripture instead.
 
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“ It is not (possible) for any human that Allah should give him the Book and the wisdom and prophet hood, then he should say to men: Be my servants rather than Allah's; but rather (he would say): Be worshippers of the Lord by virtue of your teaching the Book and your reading (it yourselves)”
 
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“Nor would he instruct you to take angels and prophets for Lords and patrons. What! would he bid you to unbelief after ye have bowed your will (To Allah in Islam)?”
 
But people claim they are doing nothing wrong:
 
039:003
“ Is it not to Allah that sincere devotion is due? But those who take for protectors other than Allah (say): "We only serve them in order that they may bring us nearer to Allah." Truly Allah will judge between them in that wherein they differ. But Allah guides not such as are false and ungrateful”
 
Even though whom they seek help from are only servants and created beings like them:
  007.194
“Indeed! those on whom you call beside Allah are slaves like you. Call on them now, and let them answer you, if ye are truthful!”  
4) TAKING JINNS AS IDOLS
006.100
“Yet they make the Jinns equals with God, though God did create the Jinns; and they falsely, having no knowledge, attribute to Him sons and daughters. Praise and glory be to Him! (for He is) above what they attribute to Him!”
 
  (5) PROPERTY, GOODS AND ASSETS AS IDOLS
018:034
“And he had fruit. And he said to his comrade, when he spoke with him: I am more than you in wealth, and stronger in respect of men”
 
And finally (from verses 34 to 44), he realised what he had done which amounted to nothing short of shirk. 
 
018:042
So his fruits (and enjoyment) were encompassed (with ruin), and he remained twisting and turning his hands over what he had spent on his property, which had (now) tumbled to pieces to its very foundations, and he could only say, "Woe is me! Would I had never ascribed partners to my Lord 
and Cherisher!"
 
We clearly note how the man revelled in his wealth and status and thought that his bounty was beyond reproach. Rather than remembering His Lord who  was his provider, he entered into a form 
of shirk by directing his desire and worship towards his material wealth. 
 
018:043-44
"Nor had he numbers to help him against Allah, nor was he able to deliver himself. There, the (only) 
protection comes from Allah, the True One. He is the Best to reward, and the Best to give success" 
 
 
(6) HOLDING OTHER SOURCES OTHER THAN WHAT IS REVEALED AS SHIRK
 
006:019
Say: "What thing is most weighty in evidence?" Say: Allah is witness between me and you; This 
Quran has been revealed to me by inspiration, that I may warn you and all whom it reaches. Can 
you possibly bear witness that besides Allah there is another Allah?" Say: "Nay! I cannot bear 
witness!" Say: "But in truth He is the one Allah, and I truly am innocent of (your blasphemy of) joining others with Him”
 
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“What is the matter with you? How judge ye?”
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“Or have ye a book through which ye learn”
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“That ye shall have, through it whatever ye choose?”

(7) RELIGIOUS LEADERS, SCHOLARS AND REVERED PERSONALITIES AS IDOLS
 
009:031
“They have taken as lords beside Allah their Rabbis and their Monks and the Messiah son of Mary, 
when they were bidden to worship only One Allah. There is no Allah save Him. Be He Glorified from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him)!”

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10 hours ago, Raheel Yunus said:

Many Muslims incorrectly assume that shirk is restricted to worshipping statues or simply attributing other Gods with the Lord Almighty. 
 
Although statue worship and attributing other forms of deities with Allah is no doubt a form of idolatry, limiting it to this understanding is untenable from the Quran's perspective. Idol worship from the Quran's perspective can take many forms. 
 
Here are some examples of shirk 
 
 
(1) ONE'S OWN EGO AND DESIRE AS SHIRK
 
025.043
"Have you seen him who takes his desires (passion, impulse, lust) (Arabic: Hawahu) for his Allah
(Arabic: Illahahu)? Will you then be a protector over him?"

2) INTERCESSORS AS SHIRK
010:018
“They serve, besides Allah, things that hurt them not nor profit them, and they say: "These are our intercessors with Allah." Say: "Do ye indeed inform Allah of something He knows not, in the heavens or on earth? Glory to Him! and far is He above the partners they ascribe (to Him)!"” 

(3) WORSHIP OF DEAD SAINTS AND PROPHETS IS SHIRK
 
016.020-21 
“Those whom they invoke besides Allah create nothing and are themselves created. (They are things) dead, lifeless: nor do they know when they will be raised up” 
 
018:102
“Do the Unbelievers think that they can take My servants as protectors besides Me? Verily We have prepared Hell for the Unbelievers for (their) entertainment” 
 
017.056-57 
“Say: "Call on those - besides Him - whom you fancy: they have neither the power to remove your troubles from you nor to change them." Those whom they call upon do desire (for themselves) means of access to their Lord which of those who are nearest and they hope for His Mercy and fear His Wrath: for the Wrath of thy Lord is something to take heed of”
 
Prophets would never have allowed any form of shirk and would have asked their followers to study the scripture instead.
 
003.079
“ It is not (possible) for any human that Allah should give him the Book and the wisdom and prophet hood, then he should say to men: Be my servants rather than Allah's; but rather (he would say): Be worshippers of the Lord by virtue of your teaching the Book and your reading (it yourselves)”
 
003.080
“Nor would he instruct you to take angels and prophets for Lords and patrons. What! would he bid you to unbelief after ye have bowed your will (To Allah in Islam)?”
 
But people claim they are doing nothing wrong:
 
039:003
“ Is it not to Allah that sincere devotion is due? But those who take for protectors other than Allah (say): "We only serve them in order that they may bring us nearer to Allah." Truly Allah will judge between them in that wherein they differ. But Allah guides not such as are false and ungrateful”
 
Even though whom they seek help from are only servants and created beings like them:
  007.194
“Indeed! those on whom you call beside Allah are slaves like you. Call on them now, and let them answer you, if ye are truthful!”  
4) TAKING JINNS AS IDOLS
006.100
“Yet they make the Jinns equals with God, though God did create the Jinns; and they falsely, having no knowledge, attribute to Him sons and daughters. Praise and glory be to Him! (for He is) above what they attribute to Him!”
 
  (5) PROPERTY, GOODS AND ASSETS AS IDOLS
018:034
“And he had fruit. And he said to his comrade, when he spoke with him: I am more than you in wealth, and stronger in respect of men”
 
And finally (from verses 34 to 44), he realised what he had done which amounted to nothing short of shirk. 
 
018:042
So his fruits (and enjoyment) were encompassed (with ruin), and he remained twisting and turning his hands over what he had spent on his property, which had (now) tumbled to pieces to its very foundations, and he could only say, "Woe is me! Would I had never ascribed partners to my Lord 
and Cherisher!"
 
We clearly note how the man revelled in his wealth and status and thought that his bounty was beyond reproach. Rather than remembering His Lord who  was his provider, he entered into a form 
of shirk by directing his desire and worship towards his material wealth. 
 
018:043-44
"Nor had he numbers to help him against Allah, nor was he able to deliver himself. There, the (only) 
protection comes from Allah, the True One. He is the Best to reward, and the Best to give success" 
 
 
(6) HOLDING OTHER SOURCES OTHER THAN WHAT IS REVEALED AS SHIRK
 
006:019
Say: "What thing is most weighty in evidence?" Say: Allah is witness between me and you; This 
Quran has been revealed to me by inspiration, that I may warn you and all whom it reaches. Can 
you possibly bear witness that besides Allah there is another Allah?" Say: "Nay! I cannot bear 
witness!" Say: "But in truth He is the one Allah, and I truly am innocent of (your blasphemy of) joining others with Him”
 
068.036
“What is the matter with you? How judge ye?”
068.037
“Or have ye a book through which ye learn”
068.038
“That ye shall have, through it whatever ye choose?”

(7) RELIGIOUS LEADERS, SCHOLARS AND REVERED PERSONALITIES AS IDOLS
 
009:031
“They have taken as lords beside Allah their Rabbis and their Monks and the Messiah son of Mary, 
when they were bidden to worship only One Allah. There is no Allah save Him. Be He Glorified from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him)!”


:salam:

For number 4) the position of some Shias regarding wasilah/ intercession would be that a) they are not calling upon anyone independently of Allah swt “besides Him” and b) with regards to some verses Allah swt is referring to those who cannot intercede on behalf of them I.e. idols.

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يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا اتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَابْتَغُوا إِلَيْهِ الْوَسِيلَةَ وَجَاهِدُوا فِي سَبِيلِهِ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ {35}

[Shakir 5:35] O you who believe! be careful of (your duty to) Allah and seek means of nearness to Him and strive hard in His way that you may be successful.

Commentary:

 Prophet said:

"I and Ali are from one divine light."

 

"I will soon be called back, so I will have to go away from you, but I leave behind, amid you, the thaqalayn(two weighty indispensable influential authorities), the book of Allah and my Ahl ul Bayt. Should you be attached to these two, never, never shall you go astray, after me, for verily these two will never be separated from each other; and, joined together, they shall meet me at the spring of Kawthar."

 

"My Ahl ul Bayt amongst you are like the ark of Nuh. He who sails on it will be safe; but he who holds back shall be drowned and lost.".

 

قَالُوا يَا أَبَانَا اسْتَغْفِرْ لَنَا ذُنُوبَنَا إِنَّا كُنَّا خَاطِئِينَ {97}

[Shakir 12:97] They said: O our father! ask forgiveness of our faults for us, surely we were sinners.

قَالَ سَوْفَ أَسْتَغْفِرُ لَكُمْ رَبِّي ۖ إِنَّهُ هُوَ الْغَفُورُ الرَّحِيمُ {98}

[Shakir 12:98] He said: I will ask for you forgiveness from my Lord; surely He is the Forgiving, the Merciful.

 

وَلَا تَحْسَبَنَّ الَّذِينَ قُتِلُوا فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ أَمْوَاتًا ۚ بَلْ أَحْيَاءٌ عِنْدَ رَبِّهِمْ يُرْزَقُونَ {169}

[Shakir 3:169] And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord

 

وَلَا تَقُولُوا لِمَنْ يُقْتَلُ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ أَمْوَاتٌ ۚ بَلْ أَحْيَاءٌ وَلَٰكِنْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ {154}

[Shakir 2:154] And do not speak of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead; nay, (they are) alive, but you do not perceive.
[Pooya/Ali Commentary 2:154]

Those, who die and give themselves fully for the sake and in the way of Allah, are not dead. They are alive, attached and closely connected with the ever-living Allah.

It is reported that verse 154 was revealed for the Muslims who were slain in the battle of Badr. In those days the new converts to Islam, like the disbelievers, thought that death means loss of life for ever.

Fisabilillah means "in the way of Allah" or "for the cause of truth". "The way of the devils" means "for the cause of falsehood" (Nisa: 76). Sale's interpretation of fisabilillah (wars fought against non-Muslims to propagate Islam) is a deliberate distortion. There is no compulsion in religion (Baqarah: 256), therefore, the Holy Prophet went to war only when it was forced upon him.

All the created beings are given the opportunity to prove their potential, therefore, everyone is tried with something of fear, hunger, and loss of possessions and children. Those who have attained the highest spiritual maturity through personal virtues, ability to exercise patience, with faith and reliance upon Allah, face the trials successfully and reach the highest stations nearest to Allah. Each individual occupies a different status according to the degree of faith and patience he employs to encounter the test and trial. Some souls are not considered fit to be tried. It is their misfortune. The exemption may be to let their infidelity or hypocrisy grow to its full scope for which there is a painful punishment. (Ali Imran: 178).

The Holy Prophet and the twelve holy Imams occupy the highest status near Allah with reference to the faith in and reliance upon Allah, personal virtues and ability to exercise patience. For the cause of truth, in the way of Allah, they gladly suffered every kind of misery, hardship and calamity of the utmost severity throughout their lives. Only once in the history of the world all kinds of trials, mentioned in this verse (155), to the maximum conceivable degree, have been happily and triumphantly endured and coped with by Imam Husayn and his family and friends in the desert of Karbala. No less was the situation of the other holy Imams under the tyrannical rule of the Ummawi and Abbasi rulers.

Life and death should be understood in the sense of gain and loss in the various stages man passes through, as described by the Quran in verse 154 of this surah. In verse 169 of Ali Imran it is advised not to think that those who are slain in the way of Allah are dead, because they are alive, getting sustenance from their Lord. It means that they are in direct communion with their cherisher and sustainer. The term shahid, in the Quran, refers to this state of existence.

 

وَلَنَبْلُوَنَّكُمْ بِشَيْءٍ مِنَ الْخَوْفِ وَالْجُوعِ وَنَقْصٍ مِنَ الْأَمْوَالِ وَالْأَنْفُسِ وَالثَّمَرَاتِ ۗ وَبَشِّرِ الصَّابِرِينَ {155}

[Shakir 2:155] And We will most certainly try you with somewhat of fear and hunger and loss of property and lives and fruits; and give good news to the patient

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Also pls refer to this

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وَاتَّقُوا يَوْمًا لَا تَجْزِي نَفْسٌ عَنْ نَفْسٍ شَيْئًا وَلَا يُقْبَلُ مِنْهَا شَفَاعَةٌ وَلَا يُؤْخَذُ مِنْهَا عَدْلٌ وَلَا هُمْ يُنْصَرُونَ {48}

[Shakir 2:48] And be on your guard against a day when one soul shall not avail another in the least, neither shall intercession on its behalf be accepted, nor shall any compensation be taken from it, nor shall they be helped.
[Pooya/Ali Commentary 2:48]

On the day of resurrection absolute justice will prevail. The chosen people also will be judged in view of their actions.

If "nor shall intercession be accepted" is not understood by knowing its particular use in this verse, and by making reference to other verses of the Quran in this connection, every ordinary reader comes to a wrong conclusion.

Allah has prescribed for Himself mercy (An-am: 12 and 54), and says in verse 87 of Yusuf that verily, none despairs of Allah's mercy save disbelieving people. The just Allah is also the merciful Lord. His mercy conditions His justice.

The verses, which make certain that in the divine scheme of reward and punishment the "institution" of intercession has been firmly established, are quoted below:

Who can intercede with Him, except by His permission. 

(BAQARAH: 255) 

They shall have no power of intercession, save he who has taken a promise from the merciful. 

(MARYAM: 87) 

On that day no intercession avails, save (that of) him to whom the merciful has given permission and whose word He accepts.

(TAHA: 109) 

There is no intercessor save after His permission;

(YUNUS: 3)

 

There are several such verses in the Quran which prove untrue the theory of non-availability of intercession propagated by a misguided school of thought among the Muslims.

The Holy Prophet and the thoroughly purified Imams (Ahzab: 33) are those upon whom Allah has bestowed (an-amta alayhim - Fatihah :7) the power of intercession.

The word shafa (to pair or to join a thing to its like) is the root of shafa-at, which means intercession. It can be favourable or unfavourable, as per verse 85 of al Nisa. It signifies the loving attachment of a person with his ideal or model whom he follows. On the day of judgement the wicked and the virtuous will be separated, therefore, it will be a day of pairing of the souls according to their affinity and attachment in this world - "remember the day when We will summon every people with their Imam (leader)", says verse 71 of Bani Israil.

The inadmissibility of intercession here is in the case of those who not only do not avoid evil but make a choice of wickedness as their mode of life; which is the direct result of their wilful rejection of the path of the thoroughly purified, adherence to whose guidance would have saved them from eternal damnation.

It is this despair of the non-availability of Allah's mercy which had compelled the founders of the Christian Church to invent the doctrine of atonement - God, in order to pardon man, in spite of His justice, incarnated Himself into the form a begotten son, called Jesus, and then got Himself killed so that the price of the sins of man be paid. This unreasonable idea of redemption gives man licence to sin as and when he likes.

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On 12/23/2018 at 5:51 AM, Ejaz said:

Prophet said:

"I and Ali are from one divine light."

I have started a topic asking about the Light of Muhammad:

https://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235061646-the-creation-of-the-light-of-Muhammad/?tab=comments#comment-3207155

To risk duplication, how would you interpret the saying of Muhammad you quoted?

Is the One Divine Light divided to make Ali and Muhammad?

Are Ali and Muhammad created from nothing but made to resemble the Divine Light?

Or something else?

Richard

PS. What is the source of the Prophet's quotation?

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