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Salam, 

I was informed of this ruling, and it's confused me a bit. According to Sayyed Sistani, a man cannot stand under the shade during hajj. This doesn't apply to women, from my understanding. Does anyone know why men can't stand under the shade? 

https://www.sistani.org/english/book/47/2093/ 

Ruling 269. 

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Wow that's really interesting! I also didn't know those other forbidden things when you're wearing ihram. I would love to know why.

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This is a very interesting read that has some rulings I've never knew existed.

https://www.al-islam.org/rites-hajj-practical-treatise-and-rules-nasir-makarim-shirazi/11-going-under-shade-during-travel

Edited by aaljibar

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4 hours ago, aaljibar said:

I would love to know why.

Salam , I think because Hajj is a journy for self building & purifying from sins & bad habits that nowadays turned to just a religious journey but currently it's lost most of it's real purpose

Hajj in apocalypse[edit]

According to a hadith of (prophet) Muhammad (pbu), the prophet of Islam, one of the signs of the apocalypse is when kings go to Hajj (pilgrimage) for leisure and recreation and rich persons go to Mecca for business.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_eschatology

In a detailed hadith from the Prophet (s) about the prophecy of the final condition of Akhar-Zaman, it is narrated by Salman Farsi, where: "O Salman! At that time, the riches go for the purpose of recreation, the middle class for business, and the poor for promenade.

بحارالانوار، ج 6، ص 305

Biahr Al anwar , v6 p305

http://entezar.ahlolbait.com/content/حج-در-آخرالزمان

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Technically any amount of sun exposure can be too much (it only takes one mutated cell to get the ball rolling) - it depends on the person's type of skin and the intensity of the sun.  What has become very apparent from long term studies is that the sun's radiation has long term impacts in the case of a sun burn (which can easily take place in less than an hour for some people).  It is kind of like saying that there is a safe amount of cigarettes that can be smoked. Ozone depletion has also impacted the intensity of the sun's radiation that comes through to us.  This information is out there; we need to take it seriously.

The skin of people who are sensitive to light can't protect itself from UV radiation for long. In very fair-skinned people, UV radiation starts becoming harmful after about 5 to 10 minutes. The table below shows the maximum amount of time people with different types of skin can expose untanned and unprotected skin to the sun per day without getting a sunburn.

Skin type Maximum amount of time
I 10 minutes
II 20 minutes
III 30 minutes
IV 50 minutes
V more than 60 minutes
VI more than 60 minutes

The following can help you determine what type of skin you have:

Skin type I:
  • very light skin, very often with freckles
  • reddish or strawberry blond hair
  • blue or gray eyes
  • UV radiation leads to sunburn within 10 minutes, skin doesn't tan
Skin type II:
  • light skin, often with freckles
  • blond or brown hair
  • all eye colors
  • UV radiation leads to sunburn within 20 minutes, skin hardly tans or tans only moderately
Skin type III:
  • light or light brown skin, rarely with freckles
  • dark blond or brown hair
  • gray or brown eyes
  • UV radiation leads to sunburn within 30 minutes, skin tans easily
Skin type IV:
  • light brown or olive-colored skin, no freckles
  • dark brown hair
  • brown or dark brown eyes
  • UV radiation leads to sunburn within 50 minutes, skin soon becomes deeply tanned
Skin type V:
  • dark brown skin
  • dark brown or black hair
  • dark brown eyes
  • UV radiation only leads to sunburn after more than 60 minutes, skin doesn't become darker
Skin type VI:
  • dark brown or black skin
  • black hair
  • dark brown eyes
  • UV radiation only leads to sunburn after more than 60 minutes, skin doesn't become darker

Very light skin and light skin (types I and II) are typical in places like Scandinavia and Great Britain, and people who have a medium brown skin tone with dark eyes and dark hair (type IV) mainly live in the Mediterranean and geographically similar areas. People with even darker or black skin (types V and VI) have their roots in places like certain areas of Asia or Africa.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK321117/ 

 

Edited by Maryaam

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2 hours ago, Klanky said:

What about heat stroke and skin cancer?

Being stroke with heat & sun burn don’t have major rule in skin cancer both of it are from minor factors but industrial pollution in form of any type of toxic smoke & weakening Ozone layer because of industrial pollution have major role in skin cancer but skin care industry blames & highlight Sun & natural heat to deceive people & convince people to buy their products btw this rulling for Hajj is a General rulling & if you have really problem about standing against sun & it causes serious damage ,we can ask premision from our Marja to use protectors because Islam in case of serious hardship allows to do what forbidden before & break the rule for a limited time 

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3 hours ago, Klanky said:

What about heat stroke and skin cancer?

Meant to include this in my above post but got called away..

Re: Heat stroke

BioMed Research International
Volume 2018, Article ID 5629474, 6 pages
https://doi.org/10.1155/2018/5629474
Research Article

Characteristics of Heat Illness during Hajj: A Cross-Sectional Study

This is a study outlining the effects of heat illness of 267 Hajj participants who went to emergency health who were diagnosed with heat exhaustion (68%) or heat stroke (29%).  Heat stroke accounted for a 6% mortality with heat exhaustion not resulting in mortality.

Diabetes was the most common comorbidity amount both heatstroke and heat exhaustion patients.  (So maybe, due to a pre-existing health condition, there may need to be explorations into possible exceptions, for people with diabetes, for example, who attend Hajj?)

Although there are interdisciplinary teams doing research to help prevent health problems during Hajj, the mortality rate from heatstroke is high, and patients still suffer from hyperthermia and electrolyte imbalances.

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2018/5629474/ 

 

1 hour ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

 if you have really problem about standing against sun & it causes serious damage ,we can ask premision from our Marja to use protectors because Islam in case of serious hardship allows to do what forbidden before & break the rule for a limited time 

good idea..

Edited by Maryaam

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19 hours ago, 2Timeless said:

Salam, 

I was informed of this ruling, and it's confused me a bit. According to Sayyed Sistani, a man cannot stand under the shade during hajj. This doesn't apply to women, from my understanding. Does anyone know why men can't stand under the shade? 

https://www.sistani.org/english/book/47/2093/ 

Ruling 269. 

Salaam. The ruling is not "in hajj" but actually "while in ihram"

Not just that we can't stand under shade but can't even travel under shade during the day.

The "state of ihram" is meant to be a test for us with several conditions. See list below:

The Following 25 Things Become Haraam
1. Hunting: Remember that hunting within the sacred area around and in Makkah, known as the Haram,
is always forbidden. It is not confined to Ihram. When in Ihram, hunting anywhere also is forbidden. You
are allowed to kill scorpions, pythons, poisonous snakes and rats. You are allowed also to slaughter
domestic fowls such as goats, sheep, camels, etc.
2. Sexual intercourse: Sexual intercourse, or any acts of courtship which would arouse sexual desire
are forbidden. Even lustful glance at ones own wife or husband or any other lady or man who is Na-
Mahram is forbidden. The expiation is one camel or a cow or a sheep in that order of affordability.
3. Masturbating: This includes all methods of self-abuse. It has the same precept as sexual
intercourse.
4. Marriage contract: To read Nikah for oneself or for others regardless of whether the other person is
in Ihram or not. This applies to Muta’a as well. The expiation is ihtiyatan (precautionary) one sheep.

5. Perfumes: To use perfume or apply it on ones clothes. Perfumes like Saffron, Camphor, Cloves,
Cardamom, Amber and all their uses are forbidden. Sweet smelling fruits like apples etc., may be
eaten, but it is forbidden to smell them.
6. Smell or odor: To close ones nose or nostrils from bad smell or odor is not allowed. The expiation of
doing so is one sheep. However, there is no objection if one hastily passes away from the unpleasant
odour.
7. Sewn clothes: It is Haram for men to wear sewn or stitched clothes in Ihram. Their clothes must not
have sleeves or seams. However, belts with sewn pockets for keeping money, traveler’s cheques,
passports and other valuables, slung around the shoulders or worn around the waist are allowed.
Similarly, Hernia belts can be worn. One is not allowed to fasten the Ihram with pins or a needle or
anything of that sort. You can not even tie a knot. Ladies are allowed to wear all types of sewn clothes
during Ihram, except for the hand gloves and wear a veil. The expiation for violation of this rule is one
sheep.
8. Surma: To apply black surma (eyeliner) in the eyes for cosmetic purposes are strictly forbidden for
men and women. If it is neither black nor for any cosmetic or beautifying purposes, then it is allowed.
The expiation of violation is one sheep.
9 Mirror: To look into a mirror for cosmetic reason, which means to appreciate ones looks and features,
including combing hair etc., is forbidden. The expiation of this violation is one sheep. If a driver wearing
Ihram has to refer to the mirrors of his car or bus as he drives, there is no objection. Spectacle glasses
are allowed provided they are not worn for fashion or beautification, though this should be avoided if
possible.
10. Lying and abusing: To tell lies or abuse and scorn is always forbidden but when in Ihram it
becomes all the more undesirable and Haraam. Similarly, it is Haraam to boast or brag about ones own
superiority or excellence, with an intention to belittle or under estimate the others.
Note: This means one has to be very careful not to use abusive, foul or obscene language in ordinary
conversation. If this is done the expiation is one cow for violation of this rule.
11. Shoes and socks: It is forbidden for men to cover the upper part of the feet from the toes to the
ankle. So, men must not wear socks or full shoes. Women can wear them, (although), it is better for
women to avoid wearing socks. The expiation for men violating of this rule is one sheep.
12. Swearing: To take an oath or to swear in any form, particularly saying LaWallah, Balaa Wallah (no,
by God or yes, by God) is Haraam. The expiation is Istegfaar, (repentance) for the first and second
time, and a sheep for the third time.
The following cases are exceptional.

a) That it is intended to prove thereby some right or to make the wrong public to others.
b) That is not meant to swear thereby, but is merely expressing respect and love.
There is no expiation (kafara) for a right swearing, provided, it is not more than twice, otherwise, the
expiation is one sheep. If it is a wrong swearing, the expiation is one sheep for the first time, for the
second time two sheep and a cow for the third time.
13. Killing insects: It is forbidden to kill insects or brush-off an insect originating from one’s own body
e.g. lice. There is no harm to transfer them from one place to another and the expiation for this rule
being violated is to give a handful of food to the poor.
14. Make up: All methods of self-beautification, either by use of cosmetics or by ornaments are
forbidden. A ring worn for the Niyyat of thawab, like a Firoza or Aqeeq or Dhoor al-Najaf is
permissible. Ladies must also refrain from wearing ornaments, except those they usually wear. But even
these must not be displayed to men, even to the husband.
15. Henna: To apply henna is Haraam during Ihram. The expiation for the violation is ihtiyatan
(precautionary) one sheep.
16. Pulling out of a tooth: To have your tooth extracted even if there is no bleeding due to it. (Marhum
Ayatullah Abul Qassim El Khui did not lay emphasis on this. He said this is permitted).
17. Blood: To take out blood from ones own body, or to cause any bleeding by scratching or brushing
the teeth etc., is Haraam. However, if this becomes in evitable for relief from any distress, it is allowed.
The expiation for ignoring this rule is one sheep.
Note: One should use salt to brush teeth rather than scented toothpaste.
18. Covering of the face: In the state of Ihram, women are not allowed to cover their faces with a mask
or veil, not even partly. While saying her Salaat, they may cover part of their forehead etc., in an effort to
cover her head and hair fully, but after Salaat, she has to see that her face is not covered even partially.
She can cover her face while sleeping. She must also refrain from immersing her head in water. Men are
not allowed to cover their face at all, their ears must also be visible.
Men must not carry any baggage on their heads, nor dip themselves in water. However, a handkerchief
or strip of cloth tied on the forehead for relief from a headache is allowed. The expiation for this violation
is one sheep.
19. Ointment: It is forbidden to apply any kind of ointment to the body, whether it has a sweet smell or
not. If however, it becomes necessary for medical reasons it is allowed.
20. To remove or pluck hair from ones own body, or from another's body, regardless of whether the
other fellow is in Ihram or not. The expiation for this is a handful of grain. There are four exceptions to this.
i) If hair falls itself, while doing Wudhu or Ghusl, there is no objection.
ii) If one’s hair has grown to his/her eyelid and is causing distress and agony, one may remove it.
iii) If the removal of hair becomes inevitable for any good reason and valid reason. But if due to the hair,
there are too many lice on the body, and it becomes necessary to remove the hair so as to be relieved of
the parasite.
iv) You are allowed to stroke your hair or beard or slowly scratch your body, if you know that by so doing
no hair would fall, and no bleeding would be caused.
20. Travel: Men are not permitted to travel under any kind of shade or shadow, be it the hood of a car,
an umbrella or walking in the shadow of a car, bus, caravan or aircraft. All travelling must be under the
open sky. Shades are permitted at the time of resting or taking a respite on the way. You can ward off
sunrays by cupping one hand. The meaning of refraining from shade or shadow is that men must not
protect themselves from sunrays, cold, heat or rain. So it is not only the head, which must not go into
shade, it is the whole body. Once you are in Makkah, you are allowed to go under shade or shadow,
even before you have found your accommodation or place of abode. Women, children and such men
who fear that exposure would disable them or render them very sick, are exempted. But for such men,
the expiation (Kafara) will have to be given inspite of the valid excuse they may have. The expiation for
this violation is one sheep.
According to Ayatullah Sayyid Seestani, he allows men to travel in closed bus during the night.
Men may follow his rulings if they are doing his Taqleed.
21. Cutting of nails: Cutting of nails either whole or partly is not allowed unless the nail is causing pain.
The expiation (Kafara) for each fingernail being cut is a handful of food. If all nails of the hands are cut in
the same place, the expiation (Kafara) will be one sheep. The same is true of feet. If the nails of both the
hands and feet are cut in the same place, the expiation will be one sheep. If one cuts the nails of his
hand in one place and the feet in another place the expiation will be two sheep.
23. Carrying of weapons: One is not allowed to carry any weapons, unless it is absolutely necessary.
There is no harm in carrying a knife, etc., for cutting fruits, etc.
24. Uprooting trees: To uproot, pluck or cut the grass, leaves of the trees and all that grows from the
earth in Makkah and around it; is not allowed. This is forbidden during Ihram and also without Ihram.
25. Nikah: To be witness to somebody's Nikah.
Note: All the expiation can be paid in Makkah or after returning home or even by sending money
to a third world country for the same purpose with the exception of hunting which must be paid in Makkah.
The above rules are according to Marhum Ayoutallah Abul Qassim Al Khoei. If you are a
Muqaleed of another Ayatullah please make sure you check his rulings with an A’alem.

 

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