Israeli defense minister met with Syrian rebels

[Aabiss_Shakari]

Israeli defense minister met with Syrian rebels, former IDF commander reveals in a first

In a bombshell admission, a former senior Israeli commander has said that former Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon personally met with Syrian rebels at the height of the Syrian war.

Maj. Gen. Gershon Hacohen was speaking at an Israeli Democracy Institute conference when he made a stunning claim – Ya'alon, who was Israel's chief of defense from 2013 to May 2016, held a meeting with a group of Syrian rebels during his tenure. Hacohen, who was Israeli Defence Forces Staff Corps Commander before retiring in September 2014, said that he was also present at the never-before-reported meet-up.

Hacohen refused to specify when the meeting took place and or the subject matter of the discussions. He, however, offered a brief portrayal of his three Syrian 'counterparts,' saying that Ya'alon asked one if he was a Salafist because the minister "wanted to understand who they were."

The rebel Ya'alon addressed was apparently somewhat perturbed by the prospect of cooperation with Israel.

"He [Ya'alon] asked one of them, 'Tell me, are you a Salafist?' And he said, 'I really don't know what a Salafist is. If it means that I pray more, then yes. Once I would pray once a week, on Fridays, now I pray five times a day. On the other hand, a Salafist isn't meant to cooperate with the Zionists," Haaretz reported, citing Hacohen's recollection of the meeting.

Following Hacohen's revelation, the Jerusalem Post reported, citing its own sources, that the meeting did indeed take place and that the main topic on the agenda was “humanitarian assistance.” The JP's sources said the outcome of the talks was an agreement on humanitarian aid deliveries to the residents of the Syrian part of the Golan Heights.

The effort, which reportedly started as a one-time goodwill gesture, expanded to become Operation Good Neighbor, which formally inaugurated its headquarters in June 2016. Since then, Israel has been openly assisting the rebels, but insists that its assistance is strictly humanitarian and includes treating wounded militants and their families, supplying them with fuel, medicine, food, clothing and other essential products.

The operation was reportedly wrapped up this week after Syrian forces retook control over the Golan Heights from the rebels.

However, numerous reports have suggested that Israel's support of the rebels is not as benign as Tel Aviv seeks to portray. The Wall Street Journal reported last year that the alleged humanitarian assistance, that had begun as early as 2013, included cash payments to rebel commanders who, in turn, used the money to pay militants' salaries and buy weapons and equipment. It was reported that one group received a monthly allowance of some $5,000 from the Israeli military. The handouts were conditional upon the rebels' ability to keep Hezbollah, which Israel sees as Iran's proxies, away from the border.

Earlier this year, the Jerusalem Post was forced to hastily remove an explosive report on the IDF’s admission that it provided Syrian rebels with light weapons. The managing editor of the newspaper told RT in September that the story was taken down for "for security reasons evidently," while the IDF declined to comment on the issue.

ISRAEL DEFENSE MINISTER MET SYRIAN REBELS

 

[Forgottenthinker]

This is true but keep in mind the rebels at first were good people that just wanted freedom from a brutal regime until they were corrupted from the releasing of terrorists from the Regime's prisons and Saudi Wahhabist money encouraged and ultimately corrupted the once good opposition to the joke it's now. Also Israel has said multiple times they prefer Assad ruling to the other groups. Makes sense why he lasted 7 years straight and now.

[Ashvazdanghe]

10 hours ago, Forgottenthinker said:

This is true but keep in mind the rebels at first were good people that just wanted freedom from a brutal regime until they were corrupted from the releasing of terrorists from the Regime's prisons and Saudi Wahhabist money encouraged and ultimately corrupted the once good opposition to the joke it's now. Also Israel has said multiple times they prefer Assad ruling to the other groups. Makes sense why he lasted 7 years straight and now.

Salam , you are very funny  person  as you call them good people , the terrorist just joined them after they captured prison & freed them , their rebel from beginning was supporting  in all aspects by Saudis , from when Israel preferred Assaad even you was claiming that from beginning Israel was against Asad but now you deny it  , you have very absurd sense 

[Forgottenthinker]

@Ashvazdanghe

This picture is enough said

Edited November 27, 2018 by Forgottenthinker

[Ashvazdanghe]

2 minutes ago, Forgottenthinker said:

This picture is enough said

you don't read thin line that speaks about Islamic Extremists btw only naive people accept Israeli  statemets as facts.

[Mohammadi_follower]

I think israel said that just for giving a bad image to Assad. 

[Forgottenthinker]

25 minutes ago, alidu78 said:

I think israel said that just for giving a bad image to Assad. 

I'd argue the other way, there are hundreds of thousands of articles and videos that show Israeli politicians asking for Assad's fall but it's been seven years and he's still kicking. If they wanted him gone he'd be gone in a day it's as simple as that. One phone call from Netanyahu and he'd share Saddam and Gaddafi's fate.

[Ashvazdanghe]

23 minutes ago, Forgottenthinker said:

I'd argue the other way, there are hundreds of thousands of articles and videos that show Israeli politicians asking for Assad's fall but it's been seven years and he's still kicking. If they wanted him gone he'd be gone in a day it's as simple as that. One phone call from Netanyahu and he'd share Saddam and Gaddafi's fate.

you are really exasperating Nethanyahu & Isreal while they have no real power. 

[Mohammadi_follower]

4 hours ago, Forgottenthinker said:

I'd argue the other way, there are hundreds of thousands of articles and videos that show Israeli politicians asking for Assad's fall but it's been seven years and he's still kicking. If they wanted him gone he'd be gone in a day it's as simple as that. One phone call from Netanyahu and he'd share Saddam and Gaddafi's fate.

I think they dont like at all Assad and even helped some of his opponents in some ways. However everyone in earth prefer a stable ennemy they know than an imprevisible ennemy they dont know.

[Haji 2003]

7 hours ago, Forgottenthinker said:

I'd argue the other way, there are hundreds of thousands of articles and videos that show Israeli politicians asking for Assad's fall but it's been seven years and he's still kicking.

The difference between Saddam/Gaddafi vs. Assad, is that the Iranians and Russians did not step in to help the former two. Assad has had the benefit of a superpower airforce and highly trained and committed soldiers.

I think the extent of the Russian involvement came as a complete surprise to various imperialistic powers.

It might suit Israel to say they want Assad there, but in both words and actions they've been obviously against him.

Also bear in mind that one of the grievances that the Israelis, Saudis and Americans have against Iran is its involvement in countries such as Syria, they would have had no problem if such involvement was impotent - it's clearly having an impact on their plans.

Edited November 27, 2018 by Haji 2003

[Soldiers and Saffron]

The enemy reveals their face and plans more and more as time goes by. I hope we are all watching and remembering what we are seeing.

[Ashvazdanghe]

(Game of Assad )

‘Moderate rebels’ find Assad guilty in chemical attack 

It’s no surprise that @Forgottenthinker same as always tries to attack Me.Assad with a new tactic that learned from his betrayer mentors ,everyone knows his enmity toward Mr Assad , Hizbullah  & Iran revolution 

https://youtu.be/fD4qziqT7DQ

[Forgottenthinker]

This isn't case of wanting stability, he was right from the beginning a puppet during the invasion of Iraq Syria was one of the first places that the US sent terrorists to be punished. He was even good friends with John Kerry bet he still is as this is all an act,

https://www.weeklystandard.com/daniel-halper/kerry-a-frequent-visitor-with-syrian-dictator-bashar-al-assad

Even his father and the disgusting Baath party (which also destroyed Iraq) I assume came into power with the help of the CIA as it was a known fact during the cold war if you aren't a communist based party you aren't getting the Soviet's help.

I've done 3-4 topics about this before and I'm not in the mood for a new one, just admit it  you guys simply love Assad because your Islamic Republic does. You'll ignore the horrific Saddamist torture, the 1984 police state he forced his people to live under, the Swiss bank accounts he created and stuffed money in while his people lived in poverty, trying to make himself a god by crushing all criticism and forcing he and his father's ugly pictures on every street. And worst of all as of right now as I'm speaking, genociding his own people as a punishment for wanting to be treated as decent human beings and being free.

Let's use the argument that Assad needs to stay so Iran can deliver weapons to Hezbollah and fight Israel, so you're telling me Iran a country of 80 million needs to enslave a country of 22 million people to destroy a country of 7 million people and along the way make Lebanon and Iraq into puppet states? If this is the case then Iran needs to stop this anti-Zionist crusading and fix their own problems like their drought and corruption.

I can't stop you from loving the Assad regime but if you deny his monstrous crimes then I can go on with this forever. But I don't really feel it

 

[Haji 2003]

1 hour ago, Forgottenthinker said:

You'll ignore the horrific Saddamist torture, the 1984 police state he forced his people to live under,

It was/is a typical Arab police state (aren't they all?), but far more easy going than others I can think of.

The problem you'll face on this forum is that many of us have been there, several times over many years. Sure, it was not a rich country, but there was no obvious poverty. On the streets, you could see women in niqabs, hijabs and skirts and everyone seemed to muddle along.

Christians, Sunnis and Shias would pray at the Ummayad mosque and no one would be beating anyone else up over how they worshipped.

Certainly, life seemed to be far more relaxed for the Christians than some Muslim countries that I can think of. Shias have their shrines and IIRC from my last trips there were some newish ones for those of a more Wahhabi inclination.

Unlike Iran, they did ask for your passport before you accessed the internet.

As a tourist, once you had entered you could pretty much go anywhere around Damascus pretty safely, though I had been told to be careful around Homs (where I guess your friends hung out).

[Sumerian]

7 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

The difference between Saddam/Gaddafi vs. Assad, is that the Iranians and Russians did not step in to help the former two. Assad has had the benefit of a superpower airforce and highly trained and committed soldiers.

I think the extent of the Russian involvement came as a complete surprise to various imperialistic powers.

It might suit Israel to say they want Assad there, but in both words and actions they've been obviously against him.

Also bear in mind that one of the grievances that the Israelis, Saudis and Americans have against Iran is its involvement in countries such as Syria, they would have had no problem if such involvement was impotent - it's clearly having an impact on their plans.

Israel is not in favour of complete chaos taking the place of Assad, because him and his father kept the Golan border safe for 40 odd years and before the Civil War he was engaging in active peace negotiations with the Israelis via the Turks. 

What they hoped for was a Western ally would take his place.

What they actively oppose is Assad's keeping of seemingly hostile forces - Iranian backed groups - in his territory. What they actually hope for right now is that Assad kicks them out, and if he does that then the West will reward him and perhaps the Israelis will leave him alone.

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/.premium-syria-s-assad-has-become-israel-s-ally-1.6240499

Assad is not some ideological resistance leader as some portray him, people forget his father was the same one that fought under US fighter jets to protect Saudi territory.

Edited November 27, 2018 by Sumerian

[hasanhh]

On ‎11‎/‎24‎/‎2018 at 3:21 AM, Aabiss_Shakari said:

medicine, food, clothing

Gee !

lf l gave any of these to a gov't-determined "terrorist" organization or their dependents and sympathizers, l'd be in court charged with Giving-Material Support to Terrorism.

[hasanhh]

8 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

The difference between Saddam/Gaddafi vs. Assad, is . . .

. . . also that the first two were American guys. Saddam in a US organized coup against Hashemites in support of KSA and Jordan. Qaddafy by the Pentagon so Wheeler Air Force Base be closed and US Air Force personnel and their families could live in Europe after Congress said they will not pay for a transfer to Europe . . . and in the end, did.

[Sumerian]

21 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

. . . also that the first two were American guys. Saddam in a US organized coup against Hashemites in support of KSA and Jordan. Qaddafy by the Pentagon so Wheeler Air Force Base be closed and US Air Force personnel and their families could live in Europe after Congress said they will not pay for a transfer to Europe . . . and in the end, did.

Not against the Hashemites, but against Abdul Karim Qasim, the Iraqi leader who downed the monarchy and maintained an anti-British stance similar to Mossadegh in Iran, - also the Iraqi Ba'athists got support from the Egyptians. 

Gaddafi was also a Nasserite who then turned to pan-Africanism after he fell out with the Saudis and other members of the Arab League.

The Syrian Ba'athists were also no doubt involved with the Americans, in many times during the Lebanese Civil War they took the side of the Israelis and they also joined the US coalition to liberate Kuwait.

All these groups were involved with the CIA at some point in their life. No doubt.

Edited November 27, 2018 by Sumerian

[Forgottenthinker]

Just a reminder during the cold war, if you weren't a Communist party you aren't getting the Soviet's help and Baathism isn't a communist party.

It extremely important to understand, Syria before the Baath regime was a democratic secular nation which Israel has said in a few political reports, is very dangerous to Israel's security which is why they support Assad staying in power to keep the Syrian people down. 

So this isn't rocket science to understanding who put Assad into power.

[Ashvazdanghe]

1 hour ago, Forgottenthinker said:

So this isn't rocket science to understanding who put Assad into power

I just wonder how you justify thsee contradictions for yourself

[Haji 2003]

4 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

I just wonder how you justify thsee contradictions for yourself

I think a reason for confusion is that the Israeli line has changed. It now looks as if the Assads will remain in power, so the new story is that that's ok, as long as Iran no longer has an involvement in the country.

However if the Assads think they can rest easy, we've been through this before.

Gaddafi used to be a pariah, no one would touch him. Then he 'came in from the cold', he got to set up his tent in Paris (literally) and his son got a PhD at the LSE. He became pally with Blair and British secret services set up offices in Tripoli.

He was even offered up as an example of what could have happened to Saddam if he had played ball.

But then something went badly wrong in the relationship. At the time I had investments in oil companies looking to do business in Libya and I know speaking to their executives that the Libyans were very tough negotiators and none of them managed to get any deals done. I was told that the terms that Libya was offering only made sense to sovereign investors and not the private sector.

Perhaps that was a reason? Who knows?

Anyway, in the name of democracy (Lol) he was overthrown.

[Laayla]

^^^ @hasanhh

It's all about the oil.  Blood for oil.

tagging you about the discussion we are having about the migrants heading to America.  

Destroy the country, steal its resources according to your liking, and hell with the people.  

And the constant cry of, "Why do they hate us?"

Amusing.

 

Edited November 28, 2018 by Laayla