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Zain el-Abidine

Qatar proposes to form new coalition in Mid East – report

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23 hours ago, Sumerian said:

Shi'a Islamists and the Muslim Brotherhood have always been close historically. The Islamic Daw'ah Party in Iraq was based on influences by the MB, it is basically the Shi'a Muslim Brotherhood. Also, the revolutionaries in Iran have translated Brotherhood books, praised their figures (called them martyrs, named roads after them), and supported their cause in Libya and Egypt.

Exactly Iran & Assad also directly supported Hamas the MB in Palestine an MB-Iran alliance is bound to happen

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13 hours ago, alidu78 said:

Turkey and Iran have very different views about Syrian conflict however they could be allied in a very important issue wich is neutralizing Kurdish separatists. 

At this point in time yes they do, but given that Bashar has Shia leanings and ties Iran had no choice to support him, if the FSA was Shia and Bashar was Sunni it would be a totally different story case in point with Iraq and Bahrain, but with the coarse of the conflict shifting from the rebels vs Assad to the rebels vs YPG Iran and Turkey will get over this dispute and Assad he will have to choose between Tehran and Moscow at some point while Turkey is already in Russia's sphere of influence, but it also has a unique position being an MB country and came to Qatar's aid last year along with Iran, there is no doubt in mind there will be a Qatar-Iran-Turkey axis in the near future. 

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22 hours ago, Forgottenthinker said:

I’m talking about Iraq as Iraq should stay away from these affairs and be a neutral country. The last thing Iraq needs is more war and religious conflicts.

Iraq is Iran's puppet it's hardly a sovereign state that's why there are multiple revolts in the country from the Sunni-Baathist revolt in 2014 to today with the Sadrist Movement in Basra the number one complaint has been Iranian occupation.

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28 minutes ago, Zain el-Abidine said:

Exactly Iran & Assad also directly supported Hamas the MB in Palestine an MB-Iran alliance is bound to happen

The only problem is Assad is against the Muslim Brotherhood and his experience with Hamas ended up with a stab in the back. The pro-Qatari media still demonises him and attacks him, and they are the ones who spent billions on toppling him along with Turkey. This is why Assad openly supported the coup in Egypt against the Morsi regime, while the Iranians were clearly against the coup. 

The Iranian-Syrian alliance is based on mutual interest in that they were both enemies of Saddam Hussein and the Iraqi Ba'athists, that they both housed anti-Saddam opposition groups, they both allied on the Lebanese front during and after the Civil war, which made Syria the transit route for Iran to Lebanon.

Ideologically, however, the Iranians are tied to the Muslim Brotherhood. Which is why they will support the Brotherhood cause almost anywhere except in situations like Syria, where they have a special relationship from the 1980s.

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19 hours ago, Sumerian said:

To achieve that goal you need strong leaders who truly value sovereignty and have enough strength to rule without being attacked from certain insider forces and their foreign masters

From what many Arabs tell me, this doesn't happen because 'everyone' believes they should rule. Notably, the late Shimone Peres said the same in the 90s, that the problem of the Middle-East was that there was no one strong enough to make the peace and keep the peace.

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4 hours ago, Zain el-Abidine said:

At this point in time yes they do, but given that Bashar has Shia leanings and ties Iran had no choice to support him, if the FSA was Shia and Bashar was Sunni it would be a totally different story case in point with Iraq and Bahrain, but with the coarse of the conflict shifting from the rebels vs Assad to the rebels vs YPG Iran and Turkey will get over this dispute and Assad he will have to choose between Tehran and Moscow at some point while Turkey is already in Russia's sphere of influence, but it also has a unique position being an MB country and came to Qatar's aid last year along with Iran, there is no doubt in mind there will be a Qatar-Iran-Turkey axis in the near future. 

This is a very bad analysis of the situation. If Iran help Syrian government that is absolutely not because Assad is a "Shia". 

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4 hours ago, Sumerian said:

The only problem is Assad is against the Muslim Brotherhood and his experience with Hamas ended up with a stab in the back. The pro-Qatari media still demonises him and attacks him, and they are the ones who spent billions on toppling him along with Turkey. This is why Assad openly supported the coup in Egypt against the Morsi regime, while the Iranians were clearly against the coup. 

The Iranian-Syrian alliance is based on mutual interest in that they were both enemies of Saddam Hussein and the Iraqi Ba'athists, that they both housed anti-Saddam opposition groups, they both allied on the Lebanese front during and after the Civil war, which made Syria the transit route for Iran to Lebanon.

Ideologically, however, the Iranians are tied to the Muslim Brotherhood. Which is why they will support the Brotherhood cause almost anywhere except in situations like Syria, where they have a special relationship from the 1980s.

Which is why Assad will have to choose between Iran or Russia at some point but if he does go down the Iran path an alliance with Qatar is on the table, if you're familiar with 1984 you would see that during the entire duration of the story Oceania is at war with Eurasia but by the final scene they are allies and their conflict suddenly never happened and in today's world such a situation is a reality alliances are constantly shifting based on shared interests and ideals, aside from the MB aspect and Qatar's current anti-Assad stance they have the same enemies like the Saudis. Iran is even arming the Taliban, Qatar hosts them, Qatar has pledged to support Iraq economically and politically and is actively seeking a coalition and Iran is Iraq's number 1 backer, and if this continues a consolidation of relations between Iran, Turkey, Qatar and Iraq, Syria could be dragged in.

Also seeing how the rebels did not win as expected and are shifting to fighting the Syrian Democratic Forces almost exclusively things are going to change, it's also notable Saudi Arabia is now a major backer of SDF while Qatar backs groups in the FSA actively involved in Turkish led campaigns which also benefit Iran that have an open conflict with the Kurds as well as Iraqi government, Turkey, Iran and Iraq have even cooperated when Iraqi forces took Kirkuk last year and Iraq is allowing the Turkish military to attack the PKK in the North, Turkey is also a major financier of  the Popular Mobilization Forces via the Turkmen Brigades.

It really is only a matter of time.

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33 minutes ago, alidu78 said:

This is a very bad analysis of the situation. If Iran help Syrian government that is absolutely not because Assad is a "Shia". 

You're in denial, Assad is an Alawite but he clearly has adopted the Shia identity, and it isn't a matter of if the IRGC is actively deployed in Syria this is well known, it's not even a secret.

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2 hours ago, Zain el-Abidine said:

You're in denial, Assad is an Alawite but he clearly has adopted the Shia identity, and it isn't a matter of if the IRGC is actively deployed in Syria this is well known, it's not even a secret.

If Iran helps Syria this is because they are a strategic partner and help Iran during Iran Iraq war and shias don't consider Alawite as Shia so that has nothing to do with religion. Also I really can't consider that Assad adopted "Shia identity" when he prays like sunnis. 

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I think 99% chance this coalition will never happen. Qatar is floating the idea to send a message to GCC that 'if you kick us out, we have other options that you might not like'. As was said above, this is realpolitik, nothing more. I think GCC got the message. Most likely, Qatar will soon be let back into the 'club', will switch around and will start spewing anti Iran, anti Shia garbage again.  

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It would be great news, we could capitalize on the rift between the wahabis and the rest of the sunnis and inshaAllah eradicate the wahabi ideology which has given birth to so much chaos and destruction from any real position of power. Jannatul Baqi restored!

Once the wahabis are gone, a united muslim front would be more possible and israel would be next to go. Once israel is gone, the middle east can start to prosper and become a major power in the world which it could have been all these years with all the resources and geopolitical position it has if it was not for the intervention of the brits and their helpings of saud to power in arabia. 

Then we could finally have the power to do something about the oppression of the muslims in burma and china and other places.

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