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Five Types of People who are Cursed by Every Prophet

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Salam, 

أَبِي جَعْفَرٍ ع قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ص خَمْسَةٌ لَعَنْتُهُمْ وَ كُلُّ نَبِيٍّ مُجَابٍ الزَّائِدُ فِي كِتَابِ اللَّهِ وَ التَّارِكُ لِسُنَّتِي وَ الْمُكَذِّبُ بِقَدَرِ اللَّهِ وَ الْمُسْتَحِلُّ مِنْ عِتْرَتِي مَا حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ وَ الْمُسْتَأْثِرُ بِالْفَيْ‏ءِ الْمُسْتَحِلُّ لَهُ 

  1. The one who adds his own words to Allah's book
  2. The one who abandons my sunnah
  3. The one who denies Allah's Qadr
  4. The one who deems lawful that which Allah has forbidden with respect to my family
  5. The one who claims and monopolizes the booty and deems it lawful for himself

 

Question:

What does #4 refer to? What are some examples of it? 

 

Thank you!

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I think it refers to people who take things that rightfully belong to Aal Muhammad. Here is a similar narration from the living Imam.

حدثنا محمد بن أحمد الشيباني، وعلي بن أحمد بن محمد الدقاق، والحسين ابن إبراهيم بن أحمد بن هشام المؤدب، وعلي بن عبد الله الوراق رضي الله عنهم قالوا: حدثنا أبو الحسين محمد بن جعفر الأسدي رضي الله عنه قال: كان فيما ورد علي من الشيخ أبي جعفر محمد بن عثمان - قدس الله روحه - في جواب مسائلي إلى صاحب الزمان عليه السلام

وأما ما سألت عنه من أمر من يستحل ما في يده من أموالنا ويتصرف فيه تصرفه في ماله من غير أمرنا، فمن فعل ذلك فهو ملعون ونحن خصماؤه يوم القيامة، فقد قال النبي صلى الله عليه وآله: " المستحل من عترتي ما حرم الله ملعون على لساني ولسان كل

نبي " فمن ظلمنا كان من جملة الظالمين، وكان لعنة الله عليه لقوله تعالى: " ألا لعنة الله على الظالمين ".

And as for what you have asked regarding one who permits himself to spend our money while it is in his hands without our permission: whoever does this is cursed, and we will oppose him on the Day of Resurrection. And the Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله said: ‘One who permits himself to a prohibited thing belonging to my progeny is cursed upon my tongue and the tongue of every prophet’. One who oppresses us is from the oppressors, and the curse of Allah will be upon him, as He تعالى says, ‘Verily, the curse of Allah is upon the oppressors’ (7:44).

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I am not sure but one example could be someone saying that it is lawful for Prophet(saw) 's wives to marry other men after him (saw) even though Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى explicitly forbids it in the Quran.

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What does it mean to deny Allah’s Qadr? Is it referring to pre-destination? I thought we as Shias don’t believe in pre-destination, exactly. 

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32 minutes ago, Islandsandmirrors said:

What does it mean to deny Allah’s Qadr? Is it referring to pre-destination? I thought we as Shias don’t believe in pre-destination, exactly. 

Some things are destined and some things are not. We are told not to delve too deeply into what is and what isn't.

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8 hours ago, Qa'im said:

I think it refers to people who take things that rightfully belong to Aal Muhammad

Salam, 

Thank you! 

What is the money referred to in the hadith? Khums? 

Also, what about caliphate? If it was rightfully for the Imam's, then those who took it from them must be cursed, too. Right? 

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4 hours ago, SoRoUsH said:

Salam, 

Thank you! 

What is the money referred to in the hadith? Khums?  

Also, what about caliphate? If it was rightfully for the Imam's, then those who took it from them must be cursed, too. Right? 

It is probably a reference to their huquq brother, which includes money but is not limited to it.

محمد بن يحيى، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن ابن محبوب، عن عمر بن يزيد قال رأيت مسمعا بالمدينة وقد كان حمل إلى أبي عبدالله (عليه السلام) تلك السنة مالا فرده أبوعبدالله (عليه السلام) فقلت له: لم رد عليك أبي عبدالله المال الذي حملته إليه؟

قال: فقال لي: إني قلت له حين حملت إليه المال: إني كنت وليت البحرين الغوص فأصبت أربعمائة ألف درهم وقد جئتك بخمسها بثمانين ألف درهم وكرهت أن أحبسها عنك وأن أعرض لها وهي حقك الذي جعله الله تبارك وتعالى في أموالنا، فقال: أو ما لنا من الارض وما أخرج الله منها إلا الخمس يا أبا سيار؟ إن الارض كلها لنا فما أخرج الله منها من شئ فهو لنا، فقلت له: وأنا أحمل إليك المال: كله؟

فقال: يا أبا سيار قد طيبناه لك وأحللناك منه فضم إليك مالك، وكل ما في أيدي شيعتنا من الارض فهم فيه محللون حتى يقوم قائمنا فيجبيهم طسق ما كان في أيديهم ويترك الارض في أيديهم وأما ما كان في أيدي غيرهم فإن كسبهم من الارض حرام عليهم حتى يقوم قائمنا، فيأخذ الارض من أيديهم ويخرجهم صغرة.

قال عمر بن يزيد: فقال لي أبوسيار: ما أرى أحدا من أصحاب الضياع ولا ممن يلي الاعمال يأكل حلالا غيري إلا من طيبوا له ذلك.
 

Muhammad b. Yahya from Ahmad b. Muhammad from ibn Mahbub from `Umar b. Yazid. He said:

I saw Abu Sayyar Masma` b. `Abd al-Malik in Medina, and he was carrying money to Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام during that year. Then, he (i.e. the Imam) returned it to him; so I asked him: Why did Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام return the money that you carried to him? He said: When I carried the money to him, I said to him: While I was diving, I discovered four hundred thousand dirhams, so I came with its khums – eighty thousand dirhams – and I hated to keep it from you or take from it while it is your right that Allah has given you from our wealth. So he said: Is there nothing for us of the Earth and of what Allah brings forth from it other than the khums?! The Earth wholly is for us, so whatever Allah brings from it, it is ours. He said: I said to him: Should I bring all of the wealth to you? So he said to me: O Abu Sayyar, we have allowed it for you and made [a share] from it halal for you, so take your money for yourself. And [as for] all of that which is in the hands of our Shi`a from the Earth, they are at liberty with respect to it. That is halal for them until the rise of our Qa’im; so he will collect the tax of what is in their hands and he will leave the Earth in their hands )i.e. he will let them have possession of the land(. And as for what is in the hands of the others (i.e. non-Shi`a), their earning from the Earth is haram upon them until our Qa’im rises. Then he will take the land from their hands and leave them in a state of subjugation (or, humiliation).

`Umar b. Yazid said: So Abu Sayyar said to me: I did not know of anyone from the owners of the estates, nor of those who did labour, who would eat of halal other than myself– save whom that had been allowed for (i.e. the Shi`a). (al-Kafi, Volume 1, hadith 1064)

(sahih) (صحيح)

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On 10/27/2018 at 2:21 AM, SoRoUsH said:

Salam, 

أَبِي جَعْفَرٍ ع قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ص خَمْسَةٌ لَعَنْتُهُمْ وَ كُلُّ نَبِيٍّ مُجَابٍ الزَّائِدُ فِي كِتَابِ اللَّهِ وَ التَّارِكُ لِسُنَّتِي وَ الْمُكَذِّبُ بِقَدَرِ اللَّهِ وَ الْمُسْتَحِلُّ مِنْ عِتْرَتِي مَا حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ وَ الْمُسْتَأْثِرُ بِالْفَيْ‏ءِ الْمُسْتَحِلُّ لَهُ 

  1. The one who adds his own words to Allah's book
  2. The one who abandons my sunnah
  3. The one who denies Allah's Qadr
  4. The one who deems lawful that which Allah has forbidden with respect to my family
  5. The one who claims and monopolizes the booty and deems it lawful for himself

 

Question:

What does #4 refer to? What are some examples of it? 

 

Thank you!

This narration is also found in Sunni sources like Sunan al-TirmidhiMu'jam al-Kabir of al-Tabarani, Mustadrak of al-Hakim and has been deemed Hasan by many of their scholars.

سنن الترمذي (ج4 / ص26) : 2154- حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنُ زَيْدِ بْنِ أَبِي الْمَوَالِي الْمُزَنِيُّ، عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللهِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ مَوْهَبٍ، عَنْ عَمْرَةَ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ قَالَتْ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ: سِتَّةٌ لَعَنْتُهُمْ وَلَعَنَهُمُ اللَّهُ وَكُلُّ نَبِيٍّ كَانَ: الزَّائِدُ فِي كِتَابِ اللهِ، وَالمُكَذِّبُ بِقَدَرِ اللهِ، وَالمُتَسَلِّطُ بِالجَبَرُوتِ لِيُعِزَّ بِذَلِكَ مَنْ أَذَلَّ اللَّهُ، وَيُذِلَّ مَنْ أَعَزَّ اللَّهُ، وَالمُسْتَحِلُّ لِحُرُمِ اللهِ، وَالمُسْتَحِلُّ مِنْ عِتْرَتِي مَا حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ، وَالتَّارِكُ لِسُنَّتِي

المعجم الكبير للطبراني (ج17 / ص43) : 89 – حدثنا أحمد بن رشدين المصري، ثنا أبو صالح الحراني، ثنا ابن لهيعة، عن عياش بن عباس العتباني، عن أبي معشر الحميري، عن عمرو بن سعواء اليافعي قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: سبعة لعنتهم، وكل نبي مجاب، الزائد في كتاب الله، والمكذب بقدر الله، والمستحل حرمة الله، والمستحل من عترتي ما حرم الله، والتارك لسنتي، والمستأثر بالفيء، والمتجبر بسلطانه ليعز من أذل الله ويذل من أعز الله

al-Manawi comments: 

المناوي في التيسير بشرح الجامع الصغير (ج2 / ص56) : (والمستحل من عِتْرَتِي) أَي قَرَابَتي (مَا حرم الله) يَعْنِي من فعل بأقاربي مَا لَا يجوز فعله من إيذائهم أَو ترك تعظيمهم فَإِن اعْتقد حلّه فكافر وَإِلَّا فمذنب وخصهما باللعن لتأكد حق الْحرم والعترة وَعظم قدرهما بإضافتهما إِلَى الله وَإِلَى رَسُوله

The one who does to my relations that which is not allowed to do, like annoying them, or not honoring them, so if he (the doer) deems that (what he has done to be) permissible (in the religion) then he is a Kafir, and if not (the doer does not deem it permissible in the religion) then he is a sinner. They have been singled out for curse to emphasize the rights of the Haram (sanctuary) and the Itra, and to magnify their status by attributing one (the Haram) to God and the other (Itra) to His Messenger. 

Abu Sai'd al-Khadimi al-Hanafi adds:

أبو سعيد الخادمى الحنفي في بريقة محمودية في شرح طريقة محمدية (ج1 / ص84) : وقيل يدخل فيه القاذف لهم والشاتم والذي ظن بهم سوءا أو اغتابهم أو ظلمهم وغيرها فإثمه أبلغ من إثم من فعل بغيرهم حيث تأذى رسول الله – صلى الله تعالى عليه وسلم – بأذاهم ولأن أهل بيته مرجع الحلال والحرام وأكثر الأحكام إنما تعرف من قبلهم

It is said that this also includes the one who gives false witness about them, accuses them wrongly, thinks bad about them, back-bites them, oppresses them, and others like this. Its sin is greater than the sin of doing this to other than them, for the Messenger of Allah صلى الله تعالى عليه وسلم is hurt because of their hurting, and also because the Ahl al-Bayt are the references for the Halal and the Haram and most of the Ahkam can be known through them. 

I would add the following: It naturally also encompasses disposing them of their rightful station as the ones who should possess authority after the prophet.

There is also another potential Faida in this narration that all the past prophets knew about the Ahl al-Bayt of the Last prophet.

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2 hours ago, Islamic Salvation said:

سنن الترمذي (ج4 / ص26) : 2154- حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنُ زَيْدِ بْنِ أَبِي الْمَوَالِي الْمُزَنِيُّ، عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللهِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ مَوْهَبٍ، عَنْ عَمْرَةَ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ قَالَتْ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ: سِتَّةٌ لَعَنْتُهُمْ وَلَعَنَهُمُ اللَّهُ وَكُلُّ نَبِيٍّ كَانَ: الزَّائِدُ فِي كِتَابِ اللهِ، وَالمُكَذِّبُ بِقَدَرِ اللهِ، وَالمُتَسَلِّطُ بِالجَبَرُوتِ لِيُعِزَّ بِذَلِكَ مَنْ أَذَلَّ اللَّهُ، وَيُذِلَّ مَنْ أَعَزَّ اللَّهُ، وَالمُسْتَحِلُّ لِحُرُمِ اللهِ، وَالمُسْتَحِلُّ مِنْ عِتْرَتِي مَا حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ، وَالتَّارِكُ لِسُنَّتِي

Six are cursed by me, and cursed by Allah, and every prophet that was: The one who adds to the book of Allah, the one who denies the Qadr of Allah, the one who rules (dominates) by brute force (tyranny) to honour the one disgraced by Allah and disgrace the one honoured by Allah, the one who deems permissible that which are forbidden by Allah, the one who deems permissible towards my descendants what is forbidden by Allah, the one who abandons my Sunna.    

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 المعجم الكبير للطبراني (ج17 / ص43) : 89 – حدثنا أحمد بن رشدين المصري، ثنا أبو صالح الحراني، ثنا ابن لهيعة، عن عياش بن عباس العتباني، عن أبي معشر الحميري، عن عمرو بن سعواء اليافعي قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: سبعة لعنتهم، وكل نبي مجاب، الزائد في كتاب الله، والمكذب بقدر الله، والمستحل حرمة الله، والمستحل من عترتي ما حرم الله، والتارك لسنتي، والمستأثر بالفيء، والمتجبر بسلطانه ليعز من أذل الله ويذل من أعز الله

Seven have been cursed by me, and every prophet whose supplication is answered. The one who adds to the book of Allah. The One who denies the Qadr of Allah. The One who deems permissible the forbidden of Allah, the one who deems permissible towards my descendants what has been forbidden by Allah, the one who abandons my Sunna, and the one who appropriates the booty, and the one who is tyrannical in power to honour the one disgraced by Allah and to disgrace the one honoured by Allah. 

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