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One million Muslims are being held right now in Chinese internment camps, according to estimates cited by the UN and U.S. officials. Former inmates—most of whom are Uighurs, a largely Muslim ethnic minority—have told reporters that over the course of an indoctrination process lasting several months, they were forced to renounce Islam, criticize their own Islamic beliefs and those of fellow inmates, and recite Communist Party propaganda songs for hours each day. There are media reports of inmates being forced to eat pork and drink alcohol, which are forbidden to Muslims, as well as reports of torture and death.

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Although the authorities frequently describe the internment camps as schools, they also liken them to another type of institution: hospitals.

 

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https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/568525/

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Let us see if Muslim governments with good ties to China will condemn this. Selective outrage amongst the Muslim political establishment in general is a result of political interest over an unprincipled stance against "oppression". They claim they are against tyrants but they won't speak out if it is one of their friends.

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5 minutes ago, Sumerian said:

Let us see if Muslim governments with good ties to China will condemn this. Selective outrage amongst the Muslim political establishment in general is a result of political interest over an unprincipled stance against "oppression". They claim they are against tyrants but they won't speak out if it is one of their friends.

Iran has spoken out against it, if it is Iran that you are referring to. But to ask Iran to fight China, thats pretty unreasonable. You cant expect Iran to fight the entire world on its own.

You wanna talk about Chinese companies activity in Iraq now? Their companies are even working in Karbala.

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25 minutes ago, IbnSina said:

Iran has spoken out against it, if it is Iran that you are referring to. But to ask Iran to fight China, thats pretty unreasonable. You cant expect Iran to fight the entire world on its own.

You wanna talk about Chinese companies activity in Iraq now? Their companies are even working in Karbala.

I'm speaking in general, but if you mean who I meant specifically it was Pakistan, UAE and Iran, because they have the best relations with China out of the whole Muslim world. 

Where have they spoken against it? I am curious.

This article said the most they've done was a lowkey expression of concern;

https://thediplomat.com/2018/09/irans-careful-approach-to-chinas-uyghur-crackdown/

Instead, there should be Muslim summits the same way they do with other entities which oppress Muslims, like the Rohingya and the Zionist entity.

I never said to fight them or cut trade ties, but at the very least condemnation and diplomatic pressure, and perhaps some economic pressure.

And who said Iraq is absolved from blame? Iraq should also make it clear to China that they condemn these actions. Every Muslim country should.

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42 minutes ago, Sumerian said:

political interest over an unprincipled stance against "oppression". They claim they are against tyrants but they won't speak out if it is one of their friends.

Salam this is one of issues that people criticize parliament for it because Iran doesn't has Ambassador in China & Pakistan & consulates manages  in level of Chargé d'affaires that according to level of interests of Iran in china it's not acceptable by anyone even with election of Imran khan we expect that after decreasing tension between Iran & Pakistan because of martyring previous ambassador & his crew in Afghanistan by support of Pakistan during previous gov we will have a new hope that will have new ambassadors in these two countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_killing_of_Iranian_diplomats_in_Afghanistan

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7 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam this is one of issues that people criticize parliament for it because Iran doesn't has Ambassador in China & Pakistan & consulates manages  in level of Chargé d'affaires that according to level of interests of Iran in china it's not acceptable by anyone even with election of Imran khan we expect that after decreasing tension between Iran & Pakistan because of martyring previous ambassador & his crew in Afghanistan by support of Pakistan during previous gov we will have a new hope that will have new ambassadors in these two countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_killing_of_Iranian_diplomats_in_Afghanistan

This is why you never let any country have too much power inside your own country. China has a lot of power in Muslim countries, even in Iran, and have a lot of money and investments in these countries. That's why they know the Muslim world will be silent when they do what they do. That is a problem brother, and Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan etc.. have to address Chinese influence, it is just as dangerous as American (Western) and Russian influence.

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7 hours ago, Reza said:

One million Muslims are being held right now in Chinese internment camps, according to estimates cited by the UN and U.S. officials. Former inmates—most of whom are Uighurs, a largely Muslim ethnic minority—have told reporters that over the course of an indoctrination process lasting several months, they were forced to renounce Islam, criticize their own Islamic beliefs and those of fellow inmates, and recite Communist Party propaganda songs for hours each day. There are media reports of inmates being forced to eat pork and drink alcohol, which are forbidden to Muslims, as well as reports of torture and death.

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Although the authorities frequently describe the internment camps as schools, they also liken them to another type of institution: hospitals.

Full article:

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/568525/

This is so stupid 

the fact that the news is silent on this matter 

may Allah curse and condemn these tyrants

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7 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

lThis was on dw.com-dw.tv and bbc-amerika last week.

but main media supports this for example Mulan Animation movie was about attacking Uyghurs to China in its under layer , all of them were beast like human that that their only Goal were killing all Chinese.

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1 hour ago, Sumerian said:

I'm speaking in general, but if you mean who I meant specifically it was Pakistan, UAE and Iran, because they have the best relations with China out of the whole Muslim world. 

Where have they spoken against it? I am curious.

This article said the most they've done was a lowkey expression of concern;

https://thediplomat.com/2018/09/irans-careful-approach-to-chinas-uyghur-crackdown/

Instead, there should be Muslim summits the same way they do with other entities which oppress Muslims, like the Rohingya and the Zionist entity.

I never said to fight them or cut trade ties, but at the very least condemnation and diplomatic pressure, and perhaps some economic pressure.

And who said Iraq is absolved from blame? Iraq should also make it clear to China that they condemn these actions. Every Muslim country should.

This is exactly why there needs to be a union between the countries in the middle east so we have some actual power internationally as well.

Imagine a union between the countries in middle east with one currency, imagine the monopoly on vast resources of the planet.

But such a unity will never be achieved with the wahabis in power in saudi.

What do you think of a union between the shia majority countries with one currency and close trade ties to begin with? 

Iran, Lebanon, Irak, Syria, etc. 

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1 minute ago, 3wliya_maryam said:

the chinese remind me of yajuj and majuj idk why

bcoz majority of them eat everything and and anything, so will the yajuj and majuj

i see same view as you by a wahabi that has same idea.

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Just now, 3wliya_maryam said:

Really? Do Wahhabis actuallly believe that

i was joking btw

he was pretending that is a anti wahabi Sunni but had weird belief that was in a whatsapp group becuase of his spreading hatred about shias at start of Muharam i found out that he is a wahabi & i left that group.

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@IbnSina hard to achieve an economical union between countries that have different economies that are all pathetic. 

- One of those countries (Iran) is all sanctioned out, the other three rely on foreign aid.

- Two of them (Iraq and Syria) are being rebuilt because of present and former wars.

- Two of them (Iraq and Iran) just rely on oil to live. 

- Three of them (Iran, Iraq and Lebanon) rely on trade ties with Sunni states like Qatar, Turkey, Saudi, UAE, Jordan etc..

It is impossible even if everyone in those countries had the will to do it.

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2 hours ago, Sumerian said:

That's why they know the Muslim world will be silent when they do what they do. That is a problem brother, and Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan etc.. have to address Chinese influence, it is just as dangerous as American (Western) and Russian influence.

from uyghur side they prefer to ask help from KSA & other sunni countries not Iran , many of oppressed uyghurs are under influence of ISIS ,that after chechens they are second ISIS soldiers in Idlib & it's near that take position of Chechens 

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4 minutes ago, Sumerian said:

It is impossible even if everyone in those countries had the will to do it.

it's not impossible but anti shia groups specially KSA are trying to stop what they call Shia crescent. 

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1 minute ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

from uyghur side they prefer to ask help from KSA & other sunni countries not Iran , many of oppressed uyghurs are under influence of ISIS ,that after chechens they are second ISIS soldiers in Idlib & it's near that take position of Chechens 

Palestinians in a similar fashion, have backstabbed Iran, and decided to take support from Muslim Brotherhood, or Gulf, or Saddam. 

Palestinians are also highly present in terrorist groups and anti-Shi'a rhetoric. Brother, Palestinians, Uyghurs, Chechens and other Sunni oppressed minorities all don't like Shi'a. 

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2 hours ago, Sumerian said:

@IbnSina hard to achieve an economical union between countries that have different economies that are all pathetic. 

- One of those countries (Iran) is all sanctioned out, the other three rely on foreign aid.

- Two of them (Iraq and Syria) are being rebuilt because of present and former wars.

- Two of them (Iraq and Iran) just rely on oil to live. 

- Three of them (Iran, Iraq and Lebanon) rely on trade ties with Sunni states like Qatar, Turkey, Saudi, UAE, Jordan etc..

It is impossible even if everyone in those countries had the will to do it.

Do you see how all those things are caused by the fact that there was no union to begin with?

Invasions and sanctions would have been avoided if they would be dealing with a whole union instead of single countries. Such a union would share its military power as well.

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1 hour ago, King said:

lol Pakistan won't question China, their ties are too strong.  To think any country actually puts religion above all else is foolish, governments only care about their own interests.

Imran Khan started acting like a tiger when he found out about the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) cartoon competition.

Now I want to see how he reacts. If he's a real man he'll talk like a boss at their face.

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